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Monday, October 30, 2023 · sitting No. 242

Commons committee tables clean tech and housing reports amid carbon tax clashes

Routine proceedings on committees of the House occupied the largest share of the sitting. Liberal MP Francis Scarpaleggia presented the environment committee's 10th report on support for clean technologies. Conservative MP Scott Aitchison moved concurrence in the human resources committee's 11th report on the national housing strategy, prompting exchanges over past federal inaction and requirements for municipal land use changes.

Question period featured repeated clashes over carbon pricing. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre pressed the government on the prime minister's decision to pause the tax on home heating oil in Atlantic Canada only. Liberal ministers Steven Guilbeault and Jonathan Wilkinson defended the policy as part of a broader climate plan that includes heat pump incentives available nationwide.

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Who held the floor · 2023-10-30

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 32%, opposition 68% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
24Another sitting that went nowhereThe House spent most of its time on committee reports and carbon-pricing speeches, with no bills advancing and no votes recorded. Question period produced few direct answers and two calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Building Homes Not Bureaucracy Act

Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre moved second reading of Bill C-356 and accused the prime minister of reversing course on the carbon tax after pressure from opposition rallies.

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National Security Review of Investments Modernization Act

Conservative MP Ryan Williams told the House that ministers have failed to safeguard strategic assets from foreign takeovers and called for broader participation in review processes.

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Small Business

Bloc Québécois MP Yves-François Blanchet demanded a further one-year extension of Canada emergency business account repayment deadlines to prevent widespread bankruptcies.

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Air Transportation

New Democrat MP Bonita Zarrillo condemned Air Canada after a passenger with a disability was forced off a flight and called for stronger enforcement of accessibility rules.

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Grocery Industry

New Democrat MP Heather McPherson highlighted rising food bank use on campuses and urged the government to address corporate profits rather than merely consult grocery chains.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives' lack of a plan rather than addressing the question on eliminating the second carbon tax.Unfortunately, the Conservatives do not have a plan to address either of those issues.
  2. deflected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer promotes heat pump program without addressing the question about eliminating the carbon tax for all Canadians.this government has developed, and will be rolling out, a plan to deploy free heat pumps in Atlantic Canada and across the country.
  3. deflected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes heat pump program and criticizes the asker instead of addressing selective application of the carbon tax pause.The heat pump program, the hon. Leader of the Opposition , if he had done his homework, would know, applies across the country.
  4. misdirected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives on climate denial and past provincial governance instead of addressing the question on selective carbon tax pauses.When it comes to the Conservatives, they want to take that $1,000 out of the pockets of Canadians.
  5. misdirected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks past Conservative provincial government on unrelated issues instead of addressing the question on dividing the country via selective carbon tax policy.Look what it did to education. Look how it gutted health care. Look at what happened with Walkerton.
  6. answered
    Small BusinessMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Rechie Valdez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly lists the extensions granted in response to the request for accommodations on CEBA loans.We also announced a full one-year extension of the term loan repayment date until the end of 2026.
  7. partly answered
    Small BusinessMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses extensions already made but does not engage with the claim that they remain insufficient.We postponed it by a few more weeks to give businesses time to make adjustments and continue to benefit from this forgivable portion.
  8. deflected
    TaxationMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.Answer promotes existing programs and tells the asker to do homework instead of addressing the request to remove GST from all home heating.again, I would say that folks in the chamber need to do their homework.
  9. deflected
    HousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts entirely to environmental protections instead of housing policy.We are here to protect the environment across the country.
  10. partly answered
    Carbon PricingMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains the heating oil relief but does not address why it cannot apply to all Canadians.We have developed a solution with respect to home heating oil that will put more money back into the pockets of Canadians.
  11. deflected
    Carbon PricingMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.Answer discusses rural heating oil issues without addressing why GTA Liberal ridings still pay the tax.home heating oil is a challenge not just for Atlantic Canadians, but for many in rural Canada.
  12. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Kyle Seeback (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks the opposition for wanting to remove rebates rather than addressing the question.I guess that Ontario MP wants to take that $1,000 right out of their pockets, which is exactly what he is advocating for.
  13. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Kyle Seeback (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer focuses on past emissions reductions instead of the carbon tax pause or axing it.We took that out of the atmosphere and we reduced emissions by another 50 million tonnes.
  14. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer pivots to listing government programs and opposition to them rather than addressing Quebec carbon tax suspension.All the measures that we have implemented, from dental care and child care to fighting climate change, are things that the Conservative Party of Canada is opposed to.
  15. partly answered
    Carbon PricingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer affirms carbon pricing applies nationwide with a fair mechanism but offers no new action on Quebec.Carbon pricing is in place across the country, from coast to coast.
  16. partly answered
    Small BusinessMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Rechie Valdez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes additional flexibility for CEBA repayment but does not commit to the requested one-year deferral.We are providing additional flexibility so that businesses can repay their CEBA loans.
  17. answered
    Small BusinessMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains available loan extensions addressing the deferral request.The loan can also be extended without the need for immediate repayment at the start of next year, and can be extended again until 2026.
  18. answered
    Small BusinessMr. Jean-Denis Garon (Bloc) asked Rechie Valdez (Liberal). substantive question.The answer specifies extensions and flexibility measures in response to the call for deferrals.We are giving them more time to access the loan forgiveness and a one-year extension of the CEBA loan repayment deadline.
  19. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains policy without addressing the premise about exemptions tied to voting Liberal.We made a decision to attack a highly polluting source of fuel, home heating oil, in a different way so we could get rid of it faster.
  20. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the opposition on pensions instead of addressing the carbon tax question.If that member and any other member from Alberta really wants to stand up for Canadians, why do they not stand up to Premier Danielle Smith, as they are trying to gut the pensions of Albertans?
  21. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Bob Zimmer (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes nationwide application but avoids the direct challenge to the Yukon MP.this program and the heat pump program actually apply in every province and territory across the country.
  22. answered
    Climate ChangeMr. Taylor Bachrach (NDP) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms an increase to the rebate program for all Canadians.
  23. partly answered
    Air TransportationMs. Bonita Zarrillo (NDP) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the specific incident but does not outline broader policy changes to prevent future discrimination.Persons with disabilities deserve equal rights and access when travelling.
  24. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to EVs and attacks Conservatives rather than responding to the carbon tax proposal.He thinks it is a myth. Whereas 10 years ago, one in 25 vehicles sold in the world was electric, today it is one in five around the world.
  25. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Cheryl Gallant (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker's past vote instead of addressing the NDP coalition or tax break question.I do find this question a little bit odd, coming from the only member in the House of Commons who voted against the Paris Agreement.
  26. deflected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Cheryl Gallant (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer restates that the program applies nationwide without engaging the national unity or full exemption demand.I am not sure how many times I need to repeat in this House that the program applies to all Canadians, all provinces and territories across the country.
  27. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of not listening and pivots to climate change and rebates rather than addressing the Manitoba-specific exemption failure.again the member opposite clearly was not listening to the minister when he said that home heating oil exemptions apply right across the country.
  28. partly answered
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Mr. Marc Serré (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges weather impacts on farmers but offers only general support without timelines or specific aid measures.We continue to be there for them. We continue to work together to ensure that we are meeting the needs of farmers.
  29. deflected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Yves Perron (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to the national adaptation strategy without addressing emergency assistance or loan deferral for horticultural producers.I remind my hon. colleague that we unveiled the very first national climate change adaptation strategy in Canadian history last June.
  30. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker's past support for a Quebec carbon tax and pivots to climate impacts instead of responding to full tax elimination.it is always a bit difficult for me to speak after this member who, for many years, was part of a government that was the first in North America to implement a carbon tax, the Government of Quebec.
  31. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly attacks the asker's consistency on carbon pricing rather than addressing the call to abolish the tax.Does she change her mind every time she changes leaders, or every time she changes parties?
  32. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends the pollution price and attacks Conservatives without addressing a permanent nationwide break on the carbon tax.Our plan is agile. Our plan is flexible, unlike the Conservatives, who should be ashamed of themselves for wanting to continue polluting.
  33. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to heat pumps and pollution instead of addressing the demand to axe the carbon tax.The problem we are trying to cure is pollution from home heating oil.
  34. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes heat pumps and grid changes rather than responding to the call to axe the carbon tax.If people install a heat pump, they will not pay it at all and that is the point.
  35. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses balancing affordability and climate change without specifying future carbon tax rates for Atlantic Canadians.The bottom line is that we on this side of the House tried to find a way to make sure that people square affordability with wanting to fight climate change.
  36. partly answered
    Grocery IndustryMs. Heather McPherson (NDP) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains the action taken with grocery CEOs but does not address tackling corporate greed or the partisan accusation about who deserves to eat.That is why our government called the five largest grocery chain CEOs to Ottawa and worked with them to create action plans, which they are implementing to lower and stabilize food prices for Canadians.
  37. deflected
    FinanceMr. Alain Rayes (Independent) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms expectations for responsible spending but avoids any commitment to cutting the Governor General's budget.Obviously, we expect all public office holders to spend every dollar respectfully, carefully and conscientiously with due regard for all Canadians.
  38. misdirected
    Points of OrderAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer raises a separate point about questions to non-cabinet members instead of engaging the original point of order on NDP-Liberal agreements.While the preceding intervention had absolutely nothing to do with the point of order, mine will.