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Tuesday, October 17, 2023 · sitting No. 233

Poilievre moves supply-day motion on debt and spending

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre moved a supply-day motion that the government has added more to the national debt than all previous prime ministers combined and that half a trillion dollars in deficits has produced 40-year inflation highs. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux replied that pandemic spending protected businesses and workers and that the opposition had supported the borrowing at the time. The motion remained before the House at adjournment.

In Question Period, Poilievre pressed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on housing costs that have doubled and on a Seaspan shipyard worker now paying $7,500 a month in mortgage interest. Trudeau said the austerity proposed by the opposition would not build homes and pointed to housing-acceleration agreements signed with several provinces and cities.

Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland did not appear; Parliamentary Secretary Rachel Bendayan told Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman that Canada still holds the lowest deficit in the G7 and that inflation has begun to ease.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-49 passed second reading
  • Bill C-57 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

Question Period – October 17, 2023. Video from CPAC. Watch on YouTube

Who held the floor · 2023-10-17

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 40%, opposition 60% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Supply debates nudge two bills aheadMost sitting time went to Business of Supply, with two bills advancing a stage and nearly all words on substantive topics. Question period produced far more deflected answers than clear ones.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Oil and Gas Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Mario Simard asked why Ottawa renewed $83 billion in oil-and-gas subsidies when Suncor plans to increase production; Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault replied that Canada was the first G20 country to eliminate fossil-fuel subsidies.

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Foreign Affairs

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh asked whether the Prime Minister would guarantee safe exit for Canadians stranded in Gaza; Trudeau said talks with Egypt and other partners were under way to open humanitarian corridors.

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CBC/Radio-Canada

Bloc Québécois MP Martin Champoux said a CBC memo instructing journalists not to call Hamas terrorists amounted to censorship; Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez replied that the broadcaster remains independent while the government has repeatedly labelled Hamas a terrorist organization.

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Public Safety

Conservative MP Garnett Genuis called on the government to list Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist entity; Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said listing decisions rest on security advice that is being updated.

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Justice

Conservative MP Ed Fast urged a free vote on Bill C-314 to halt expansion of medical assistance in dying to mental illness; Justice Minister Arif Virani said any changes must be informed by the forthcoming joint parliamentary committee.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes housing initiatives without addressing reversal of inflationary policies.That is why we are taking bold steps to get more affordable housing built faster.
  2. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing proposed cuts and listing programs instead of addressing reversal of policies.We are here to help Canadians with investments and agreements with municipalities to create more housing while ensuring that we keep the lowest deficit and the best debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7.
  3. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on housing agreements and rejects cuts without addressing reversal of inflationary spending.That is why we are continuing to work right across the country to bring forward ambitious and community-specific solutions to the housing problems they are facing.
  4. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends fiscal responsibility and questions proposed cuts rather than addressing interest rate impacts on the family.The reality is that we have the lowest deficit in the G7, we have the best debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7 and we have preserved our AAA credit rating.
  5. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights infrastructure successes and rejects cuts without addressing co-operation with the RCMP investigation.I recommend that the Leader of the Opposition take a ride on the great REM in Montreal, which the Canada Infrastructure Bank helped build.
  6. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses G7 coordination and humanitarian efforts without addressing the Quint group or conversation with Biden.We had a call with the G7 foreign ministers this morning to better coordinate our efforts and ensure that aid gets into Gaza.
  7. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly confirms follow-up on the suggested meeting of party leaders.I have asked my team to follow up, which they will do in the coming days, to make sure the party leaders have access to all the necessary information.
  8. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer details ongoing evacuation and humanitarian efforts but does not confirm immediate safe exit for all Canadians in Gaza.We are working with the international community.
  9. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Addresses release of hostages but avoids committing to pushing for a ceasefire.we have called for the release of hostages from the start.
  10. deflected
    FinanceMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the question on deficits and pivots to attacking Conservatives on tax breaks.The Conservatives, on two occasions, voted against a tax break for the middle class, and now they pretend to care about the middle class.
  11. deflected
    FinanceMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.Avoids naming a year for balancing the budget and instead highlights unrelated stats while attacking Conservatives.I would remind my colleague opposite that Canada continues to have the lowest deficit among all G7 countries.
  12. misdirected
    HousingMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). substantive question.Answers a different question about banking fees instead of addressing deficit reduction and housing affordability.About an hour ago, we announced new measures that will help reduce costly banking fees, which Canadians have told us are a very real irritant for them.
  13. misdirected
    HousingMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.Turns to attacking the Conservatives' past record rather than addressing current spending and housing delays.an example of recklessness is the Conservatives' record on housing.
  14. deflected
    FinanceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Avoids admitting on deficits and pivots to promoting a bill while attacking Conservatives.Will the do-nothing Conservatives at least vote for Bill C-56 to help Canadians for once?
  15. deflected
    HousingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the question on spending and instead warns about hypothetical Conservative cuts.I can say that they are afraid the Conservatives will set us back.
  16. answered
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Directly states that fossil fuel subsidies have already been cut and public funding will end next year.We have already cut fossil fuel subsidies.
  17. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific accusations about committee conduct and subsidies and pivots to unrelated climate regulations.We implemented measures to make sure the oil and gas sector does its fair share to fight climate change in Canada.
  18. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMs. Kristina Michaud (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the question on oil production targets and global climate impact by citing past emission reductions.Between 2019 and 2021, our greenhouse gas emissions in Canada declined by 50 million tonnes.
  19. partly answered
    HousingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses housing supply and federal-municipal partnerships but does not engage with inflation or spending critiques.the housing crisis, as we know, is underpinned ultimately by a crisis in supply or the lack thereof.
  20. misdirected
    HousingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks Conservative cuts instead of addressing the link between spending, inflation, and volunteer firefighter affordability.it terrifies me to think of the reckless cuts that the Conservatives would make on the backs of Canadians.
  21. partly answered
    HousingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer corrects an inflation claim and notes an upcoming economic statement but avoids the deficit and spending management question.Statistics Canada confirmed today that inflation in Canada has dropped.
  22. misdirected
    HousingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking Conservatives on cuts rather than responding to deficit management or youth homeownership concerns.It is the idea of having the Conservatives in power, which means cuts, cuts and more cuts.
  23. answered
    HousingMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly counters the claim of insufficient federal partnership by citing national housing strategy outcomes.Sixty-nine thousand people who were on the street are no longer on the street.
  24. partly answered
    Grocery IndustryMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the grocery CEO meeting but shifts to promoting Bill C-56 instead of explaining further price actions.I expressed the frustration of 40 million Canadians who are struggling to put food on the table
  25. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Gudie Hutchings (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the budget and inflation question entirely to attack Conservatives on unrelated past cuts.
  26. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). loaded question.Answer again pivots to past Conservative cuts on veterans instead of addressing deficits or costs.We can expect cuts and more cuts.
  27. partly answered
    SeniorsMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the seniors poverty premise with policy outcomes but does not address rent or deficits.the poverty rate among seniors has gone down significantly since we formed government in 2015
  28. answered
    HousingMr. Joël Godin (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer names a specific program that targets first-time home ownership for young people.the tax-free first home savings account is a perfect example of how we are working to help our young people become homeowners.
  29. partly answered
    CBC/Radio-CanadaMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Mr. Taleeb Noormohamed (Liberal). substantive question.Answer affirms Hamas is terrorist and CBC independence but does not address the internal memo or censorship claim.our government has been clear. Hamas has been recognized as a terrorist organization and a terrorist group.
  30. partly answered
    CBC/Radio-CanadaMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats Hamas stance and independence but shifts to translation issue without addressing management interference.CBC/Radio-Canada is independent, but we see the translation issue as unacceptable.
  31. misdirected
    The EconomyMrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer changes subject to a local investment announcement instead of engaging on inflation or carbon tax.I would like to thank the colleague for the question, but I am really surprised that she is not talking about the historic investment announced in her riding yesterday.
  32. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Shuvaloy Majumdar (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Alberta UCP pension plan instead of responding to federal spending, carbon tax or inflation.it really is shocking that Conservatives are claiming to be on the side of Canadians and helping them with affordability when their very allies in the Alberta government in the UCP are trying to take the pension plans of Albertans out of the Canada pension plan
  33. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Len Webber (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes the opposition and defends environmental rules without addressing the request to repeal Bill C-69.We have put in place better rules.
  34. answered
    Public SafetyMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly states there is no active investigation and notes RCMP independence.as the RCMP have confirmed, there is no active investigation.
  35. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the concern and states that updated advice is being sought but does not explain the refusal to list the IRGC.I have obviously asked them to update this advice for the government and we will take all necessary decisions as soon as it is appropriate.
  36. deflected
    JusticeEd Fast (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses general principles of MAID and a committee but avoids the yes/no question on a free vote for Bill C-314.Our government is moving to restrike the joint committee of parliamentarians to deliver that expertise and advice.
  37. partly answered
    Child CareMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.The answer agrees on the need for better pay but does not commit to a specific $25 wage floor.We have been clear with the provinces, the territories and our partners that we are working toward that and we expect that along with them.
  38. misdirected
    Climate ChangeMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to praising Liberal climate record and quotes an NDP adviser instead of addressing the wealth tax request.I would like to remind my hon. colleague that in a recent podcast on a very popular Canadian show, one of her ex-advisers to the federal NDP and many provincial NDPs was asked, point-blank, what he thought people would remember of this Liberal government.