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Monday, May 15, 2023 · sitting No. 197

House extends main estimates debate as Poilievre attacks deficits

The House spent the largest share of its sitting in committee of the whole on the main estimates under business of supply. An earlier motion extended the allotted time beyond four hours to guarantee at least 16 periods of 15 minutes each and permitted members to divide their speaking time.

In question period Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre repeatedly pressed Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland on rising deficits and their effect on inflation and household costs. Freeland countered that Canada holds the strongest economy in the G7 and defended the government's fiscal record.

Liberal MP Patty Hajdu defended time allocation on Bill S-5, citing extensive Senate and House study, while Conservative MP Michael Barrett accused the government of curtailing debate.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-13 passed third reading and adoption
  • Time allocation for Bill S-5 passed
  • Opposition motion on immigration levels defeated

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2023-05-15

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 52%, opposition 48% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 23:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Bills advance amid supply-day sparringThe House passed Bill C-13 at third reading and approved time allocation for Bill S-5 while defeating an opposition motion on immigration levels. Most sitting time went to substantive business, chiefly supply and environmental protection, with few procedural interruptions.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Democratic Institutions

Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien accused the Prime Minister of calling byelections instead of launching a public inquiry into foreign interference.

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Justice

Conservative MP Raquel Dancho cited a recent Edmonton stabbing and demanded reversal of Liberal bail policies that she said allow repeat violent offenders back on the street.

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Natural Resources

Bloc Québécois MP Monique Pauzé questioned the ballooning cost of the Trans Mountain expansion, now estimated at $30.9 billion.

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Veterans Affairs

NDP MP Rachel Blaney urged the government to include women veterans in developing mental-health guidelines for those who served.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    FinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific budget balance and deficit questions to pivot to G7 praise.After we tabled the budget, S&P reiterated our AAA credit rating.
  2. deflected
    FinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the flip-flop and deficit inflation claims by restating general economic growth stats.For example, in the first quarter of this year, Canada's economic growth was 2.4%.
  3. deflected
    FinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the deficit promise question to criticize Conservatives for questioning international travel.It is important for Canadians to understand that Conservatives seem to think that Canada's Minister of Finance should not attend international meetings.
  4. misdirected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the question as elitist insinuation instead of addressing carbon tax or deficit impacts.The Conservatives are trying to insinuate today that there is something elitist, that there is something that goes against the interests of regular Canadians when Canadian leaders attend G7 meetings.
  5. misdirected
    The EconomyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer personally attacks the asker about his residence and career rather than responding to policy concerns.someone who lives in government-provided accommodation in a multiroom residence with a chef and a chauffeur and someone who has been on the public payroll his entire professional life should not suggest that our government is acting against the interests of Canadians when we attend meetings of the G7.
  6. partly answered
    Democratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the commission and recommendations but does not confirm any concrete new actions taken.Now we very much look forward to receiving the recommendations from Mr. Johnston, a former governor general who was appointed by a Conservative prime minister.
  7. deflected
    Democratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer restates general measures without addressing the timing or priority of the byelection decision.I share my hon. colleague's concerns about the need to ensure that byelections will, like the 2019 and 2021 elections, be protected from foreign interference.
  8. partly answered
    Automotive IndustryMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the jobs issue and past actions but does not commit to a timeline for the Stellantis plant.We showed that with the historic VW investment, which creates an auto sector for the future, and we are showing that in Windsor, but we are going to fight for the best deal for Canada
  9. answered
    HousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly lists programs to assist renters facing high costs.we understand the importance of being there for vulnerable renters.
  10. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the Stellantis and TMX questions by attacking the opposition instead.coming from a leader and a party that are on record opposing the historic, transformational VW investment made by our government, that question is frankly ridiculous.
  11. partly answered
    FinanceMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the committee appearance but deflects the budget criticism with unrelated remarks.I am really looking forward to appearing before the finance committee, as scheduled, tomorrow.
  12. deflected
    FinanceMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the inflation and budget questions by shifting to G7 meetings and rating agencies.The fact is that the presence of Canadian ministers, and this week the presence of our Prime Minister , at a G7 meeting, is doing our job for Canadians, and Canadians know it.
  13. misdirected
    The EconomyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the economic critique and pivots to attacking Conservatives while listing unrelated housing measures.we can tell, when the personal attacks are increasing, that it is proportional to the lack of ideas that actually help Canadians.
  14. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer evades the food bank and housing cost question by questioning Conservative foreign policy instead.Are they considering an isolationist policy for Canada?
  15. deflected
    FinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the budget balancing question by citing credit ratings and attacking Conservatives.S&P reaffirmed Canada's AAA credit rating after we tabled our budget.
  16. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Liberal). substantive question.The answer redirects to unrelated accords and plans instead of addressing the immigration target capacity concern.if the Bloc Québécois wants to know how to protect Quebec's demographic weight, I urge its members to read the Canada-Quebec accord, which has been working for three decades.
  17. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Liberal). substantive question.The answer justifies current targets without addressing whether they will be lowered.Our immigration plans are based on the next three years, not the next 75 years.
  18. answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses processing times by citing specific reductions in backlogs and applications finalized.We have reduced the backlog by over half a million.
  19. deflected
    FinanceMr. Adam Chambers (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the question of regret by quoting the PBO instead of addressing the broken promise claim.When looking at G7 countries, Canada compares very favourably on net debt-to-GDP.
  20. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Adam Chambers (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking Conservative policies rather than addressing affordability under the current government.The people who pay the price for Conservative so-called economics are the most vulnerable among us.
  21. deflected
    FinanceMs. Michelle Ferreri (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids committing to cuts by questioning what the opposition would cut instead.Would they cut the $200 billion we have invested in the health care system?
  22. answered
    HousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses rental costs by outlining federal actions under the national housing strategy.That means building a more affordable rental supply over the life of the national housing strategy
  23. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses gender-based analysis and forums but does not commit to including women veterans in the specific guidelines.We take this very seriously, and that is why we created the Office of Women and LGBTQ2 Veterans.
  24. deflected
    FinanceMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends economic performance with ratings and growth claims instead of addressing reversing course on spending.Canada has a AAA credit rating, which was reaffirmed by S&P after we tabled our budget.
  25. deflected
    FinanceMr. Marty Morantz (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses committee attendance but evades the budget promise question by dismissing the query.The finance minister has said she is there tomorrow, so I do not know why they have not revised their questions.
  26. deflected
    FinanceMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.Answer confirms attendance but pivots to economic record instead of addressing broken promises.The finance minister is going to committee tomorrow, as long as they do not filibuster it.
  27. answered
    FinanceMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly confirms appearance and addresses economic outcomes raised in the question.Let me assure everyone that I am looking forward to appearing before the finance committee tomorrow, as I have enjoyed questions today.
  28. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses long-term ownership but not the escalating costs or timeline for debt.The government has no intention of owning the pipeline for the long term.
  29. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to green plan instead of addressing environmental debt from the pipeline.our government is very proud of our green industrial plan.
  30. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks Conservatives' past record instead of providing the requested number of stations.The bigger question is about what the Conservatives did on foreign interference when they last held the reins of government.
  31. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer restates RCMP action but avoids stating any current number of stations.the RCMP is taking decisive action to disrupt the foreign interference activities associated with those so-called police stations.
  32. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer blames Conservatives for impeding progress rather than answering the number of stations.The Conservatives are the only ones who continue to impede the government's national security priorities.
  33. partly answered
    JusticeMs. Raquel Dancho (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer acknowledges the issue and points to upcoming reform without confirming reversal of all policies.The hon. member will notice that there is something on the Order Paper, and hopefully that bail reform will coming soon.
  34. partly answered
    JusticeMs. Raquel Dancho (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the bill and notes future action but does not commit to reversing policies as demanded.Bill C-75 did not fundamentally change the law on bail in Canada.
  35. partly answered
    JusticeMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer references ongoing work with provinces but avoids direct commitment to ending the system described.Since October, we have been working with the provinces and territories and with our counterparts in justice and public safety to see how we can improve the bail system
  36. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights overall approvals and promises review but does not address the specific defiance claim or bankruptcy threat.since July 1, 2016, the federal government has approved an estimated 2.56 million products under Jordan's principle.
  37. partly answered
    Climate ChangeMr. Alain Rayes (Independent) asked Ms. Julie Dabrusin (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reports recent agreements and progress toward the goal but does not detail the full $3.2 billion expenditure or complete plan.Between the time that he carried out his study and when he presented the report, we had negotiated or were in the process of negotiating six agreements for planting more than 260 million trees.