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Thursday, April 20, 2023 · sitting No. 181
Aerospace report debate dominates Commons as Liberals and Bloc clash over support
The House spent the largest share of its time debating a motion to concur in the fifth report of the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology on the aerospace sector. Bloc Québécois MP Sébastien Lemire moved the concurrence motion and argued that federal support for the industry in Quebec falls far short of assistance given to the auto sector in Ontario. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux replied that the government has backed the sector from the outset and pointed to diversified production across the country including in Winnipeg.
Liberal minister François-Philippe Champagne added that the government recently made its largest aerospace announcement in Canadian history during a Montreal event with Premier Legault. Lemire countered that the disparity with Ontario remains stark and called for an aerospace supercluster in Quebec centred on Aéro Montréal.
In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the ongoing public-service strike and ethics questions over the Prime Minister's holiday accommodations. Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus pressed the government on service backlogs while Liberal minister Mona Fortier said negotiations continue at the bargaining table.
Decided that day
- Ways and means motion No. 16 passed
- S-242 advanced in first chamber
- S-250 passed second reading
- C-47 and C-330 introduced
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Labour
Conservative MP Jasraj Singh Hallan accused the government of record incompetence after expanding the bureaucracy by $21 billion and triggering the largest public-sector strike in 40 years. Liberal minister Mona Fortier replied that the government values public servants and is working toward a fair agreement.
Read the exchangeCarbon Pricing
Conservative MP Jasraj Singh Hallan said the carbon tax adds 41 cents per litre and forces more Canadians to food banks. Liberal minister Mark Holland accused the Conservatives of spreading misinformation and noted their own reliance on public funding.
Read the exchangeDemocratic Institutions
Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien questioned the Prime Minister's repeated contacts with the Trudeau Foundation including the appointment of its former CEO to review election interference. Liberal minister Mark Holland said the Prime Minister has had no direct or indirect involvement for over ten years.
Read the exchangeGovernment Appointments
Conservative MP Michael Barrett asked whether the Prime Minister would avoid appointing friends or Trudeau Foundation associates to the vacant Ethics Commissioner post. Liberal minister Mark Holland said the government would appoint qualified people with expertise.
Read the exchangeAviation Industry
Bloc Québécois MP Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay criticized the sole-source $9-billion contract for Boeing P-8A aircraft and said Quebec firms could build better planes. Liberal minister François-Philippe Champagne replied that the government remains committed to Quebec's aerospace industry.
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- deflectedLabourMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mona Fortier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific question on fixing the strike and backlogs by restating general bargaining goals.
We are currently negotiating to make sure we have an agreement that is competitive, fair to employees and reasonable to taxpayers.
- misdirectedLabourMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the core question about fixing services and instead sarcastically confirms the vacation detail.
for the third day in a row, yes, the Prime Minister took a vacation over Christmas with his family in a house with his friends.
- deflectedLabourMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Mona Fortier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the record-incompetence accusation and repeats general commitments to negotiations and the right to strike.
We are committed to reaching agreements that are competitive, that are fair to the public servants, but also that are reasonable for Canadians.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns the question into an attack on the opposition rather than addressing the carbon tax or inflation claims.
The Leader of the Opposition gets up every morning in a government-funded bed and—
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to conspiracy-theory insults and opposition funding instead of engaging the carbon-tax question.
every day, we listen to conspiracies from the Conservatives, and I wonder how they square this when they are on 4chan and subreddits talking about these various conspiracy theories.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the listed ties by stating there have been none for over ten years.
It is quite clear that the Prime Minister had no direct or indirect involvement with the foundation.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the specific question about the rapporteur's ties and instead issues a general statement on loyalty.
Every member of the House of Commons is loyal to our country and responsible for protecting our democracy.
- partly answeredLabourMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses outsourcing rules but does not explain why negotiating with workers is harder than paying consultants.
They are used only in the case where we need specific expertise or in the case of fluctuating workload, but I can assure the member that we are always looking to ensure we get the best value for Canadians.
- partly answeredLabourMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses outsourcing via budget cuts but ignores the fair deal for public sector workers.
I am sure the member is very pleased that, in budget 2023, we proposed to reduce spending on consulting, other professional services and travel by roughly 15% of planned 2023-24 discretionary spending in these areas.
- deflectedLabourMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates bargaining principles without addressing incompetence claims or apology request.
unlike the Conservatives opposite, we respect collective bargaining, we respect the right to strike and we understand that negotiations need to happen at the negotiating table.
- misdirectedLabourMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to praising public servants and bargaining instead of addressing the Prime Minister's absence.
Let us talk about the public servants who showed up to work every single day throughout the pandemic to deliver CERB to eight and a half million Canadians.
- misdirectedLabourMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative history on funding instead of addressing current strike or consultant spending.
it is important for us to compare and contrast with what the Conservatives did, because since 2006, they did not increase vote A funding for core services to any of the services we provided to Canadians.
- misdirectedLabourMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner and pivots to economic growth instead of addressing leadership failures.
I am not sure what the member opposite is saying. Is she saying the Prime Minister should not have security or should not be flying in such a way that his security is protected?
- deflectedLabourMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to past Conservative cuts without addressing current spending or strike issues.
it is not really surprising today to hear the Conservatives attacking the investments we made in the public service, because who can forget the fact that, when they were in power, they slashed the public service like never before with austerity measures and unprecedented cuts.
- misdirectedLabourMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists unrelated government supports instead of addressing the Prime Minister's personal involvement or failures.
if my hon. colleague is asking what the Prime Minister is standing up for, he is standing up for the people who live in my community, like the low-income families who now receive more through the Canada child benefit than they did when the Conservatives were in power.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise without addressing the donation or potential influence.
is the member suggesting that China is responsible for Canada's policies or that the government is influenced by that? That is absolutely ridiculous.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends rapporteur but pivots to unity without addressing inquiry request.
The only way to do that is to stand united against foreign interference.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes Johnston will advise on holding an inquiry but avoids committing to one.
He is a gentleman who has given his life to this country and will provide us with information that we will be acting on, including whether or not we hold a public inquiry.
- misdirectedGovernment PrioritiesMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores strike and spending critique to discuss unrelated budget investments.
In my home city of Edmonton, Heidelberg Materials is going to create the world's first net-zero cement plant, with $1.36 billion worth of investment.
- deflectedGovernment PrioritiesMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to listing budget measures instead of addressing service failures or Prime Minister's role.
What did they say? To help them with groceries.
- misdirectedEthicsMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker on an unrelated broadcaster issue rather than addressing the vacation ethics question.
Does she agree with the opposition's intention to silence our public broadcaster?
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.Answer claims meetings occurred and cites funding but does not address refusal to meet union president.
I have met with the union leadership and I have met union people.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Matthew Green (NDP) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer dismisses the vacation question as unimportant instead of addressing judgment concerns.
I would imagine that there are other more pressing things that Canadians are facing than spending three days asking about whether the Prime Minister took a family vacation over Christmas.
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer corrects appointment origin but evades assurance against future partisan picks.
The person whom they are referring to was appointed actually under Stephen Harper when he was prime minister.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the appointment question entirely and pivots to criticizing Conservative priorities on unrelated global issues.
I wonder, 20, 30 years from now, when people are looking back on these question periods and watching the priority of Conservatives, if they will wonder where the heck they were on the issues that actually affected Canadians
- deflectedEthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps all ethics examples and lists unrelated Liberal priorities instead of addressing the Ethics Commissioner vacancy.
Canadians are concerned about three things.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer completely ignores the two requirements for the Ethics Commissioner and promotes a shipyard announcement instead.
I am referring to the huge, fantastic announcement made a few weeks ago at the Davie shipyard
- deflectedAviation IndustryMr. Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay (Bloc) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer praises Bombardier and aerospace support but never addresses the call for tenders or the reported maintenance issues with the planes.
We were there for Bombardier at every opportunity, and we will always be there for Bombardier, both now and in the future.
- deflectedAviation IndustryMr. Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay (Bloc) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer reiterates support for Quebec aerospace but avoids answering whether a real tender process will be held.
We will always be there for the workers.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the Conservatives' housing record rather than addressing the Prime Minister's awareness of mortgage and cost-of-living pressures.
the hon. member should know that the people who are really out of touch are his colleagues, who have said that we should pull back from federal investments in housing.
- misdirectedHousingMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.Answer blames Conservatives for opposing measures instead of explaining how the government will increase housing starts or reduce delays.
Conservatives are a nightmare for Canadians' goals related to accessing affordable housing
- misdirectedHousingMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.Answer again attacks Conservative voting record on housing instead of outlining new measures to address doubled mortgage costs and inflation.
the biggest gatekeepers to more housing supply, affordable housing, supports for renters and supports for homebuyers are the Conservatives.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Mr. Bryan May (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's past actions rather than addressing the Prime Minister's current intentions or NATO commitments.
We should not forget that it was the Conservatives who set our defence capacity back years by cutting military spending by billions and badly mismanaging our major procurement projects.
- deflectedNational DefenceMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Mr. Bryan May (Liberal). substantive question.The response highlights defence spending increases without addressing the alleged private comments to NATO officials.
As a founding member of NATO, our commitment to Euro-Atlantic and global security is ironclad, and we continue to make landmark investments to equip our armed forces.
- deflectedNational DefenceMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Mr. Bryan May (Liberal). substantive question.The answer focuses on future plans and investments rather than reconciling the minister's statements with the Pentagon's assessment.
as we have said, our government is making landmark investments to increase our ability to operate in and defend the Arctic, including announcing a robust $40-billion plan to modernize our continental defence.
- answeredIndigenous AffairsMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly acknowledges the request and confirms commitment to implement a red dress alert.
Our budget also included a commitment to working on a red dress alert.
- partly answeredCorrectional Service of CanadaMr. Mike Morrice (Green) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). substantive question.The response expresses disappointment but avoids committing to directing Correctional Services to provide documents promptly.
We were also disappointed that the inquest was delayed; we hoped that it would shed a light on the tragic and devastating events of 2016.
- misdirectedPresence in GalleryMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked The Speaker (Liberal). substantive question.The Speaker's response addresses a different matter of privilege instead of clarifying the outsourcing commitment.
I am now ready to rule on the question of privilege raised on April 17 by the member for Pickering—Uxbridge concerning comments made following Oral Questions on March 31 by the member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake .
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer outlines the legislative agenda for the upcoming weeks as requested.
With respect to the business of the House, tomorrow morning we are going to start second reading of Bill C-47 , the budget implementation act.