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Tuesday, April 18, 2023 · sitting No. 179
Budget debate consumes most of Commons day amid ethics clashes
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate on budget 2023 under government orders. Members from several parties examined spending measures, with exchanges focusing on jurisdiction, pensions and the cost of living. The bill remained before the House at the end of the day.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on ethics and democratic institutions. Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre pressed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on the cost of a recent family trip to a villa owned by a Trudeau Foundation donor. Bloc Québécois members raised concerns about foreign donations to the foundation and called for an independent inquiry into Chinese interference.
Liberal ministers defended the government's record on affordability measures and democratic safeguards while rejecting opposition calls for further probes.
Decided that day
- Budgetary policy amendment defeated
- S-205, S-233, S-246, S-1001, C-228, S-210 and C-233 advanced
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Conservative MP Scot Davidson asked the government to cancel the carbon tax, citing families scaling back vacations because of inflation.
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Conservative MP Scott Reid asked why the government has not extended protection to Afghan interpreters and their families who left the country before July 2021.
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- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the direct question on payment by pivoting to unrelated budget measures and attacking the opposition's motives.
If the Leader of the Opposition were really concerned about the cost of living for Canadians, he would be supporting our budget, which is there to give Canadians more money in these difficult times.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the specific cost question by reiterating friendship and Ethics Commissioner compliance while shifting to budget support.
If the Leader of the Opposition was truly concerned about affordability for Canadians, he would be voting to support our budget, which puts forward concrete measures to help Canadians from coast to coast to coast.
- misdirectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer turns to attacking the opposition leader's friendships with American billionaires instead of addressing the villa payment.
If the Leader of the Opposition wants to talk about friendships, let us talk about the fact that he is running to his American billionaire tech giant friends to attack the local news that Canadians are relying on.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the payment question by citing security protocols and pivoting to dental benefits and tax policy while criticizing the opposition.
Again, if the Leader of the Opposition genuinely cared about affordability for Canadians, he would be voting in favour of our dental benefits, which are helping hundreds of thousands of kids right now and would help millions of Canadians into the future, but he voted against it.
- misdirectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The question is rhetorical with no answerable element and the answer responds by attacking partisan motives while listing government programs.
if the Conservative leader cared as much about Canadians as he does about partisan attacks, he would actually be stepping up to support our delivery of direct benefits to Canadians.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the ethics consultation aspect but does not specify the accommodation cost or personal payment.
However, when it comes to friendships and for other vacations, we always consult the Office of the Ethics Commissioner to ensure that all the rules are followed.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly addresses the premise about involvement with the Trudeau Foundation.
as I have said many times, I have had no direct or indirect involvement with the foundation that bears my father's name for 10 years.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the CEO pay and inequality question to focus on tax fairness and the grocery rebate.
That is why we are moving forward with the grocery rebate for 11 million Canadians in a targeted way that will not contribute to inflation, and that is why we are hoping that all members in this House accelerate this grocery rebate, so we can deliver it to Canadians who need it as quickly as possible.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses tax policies and rebates without addressing the wage increase proposal.
one of the first things we did was raise taxes on the wealthiest 1% in this country so we could lower them for the middle class.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The response shifts to past poverty numbers and questions the opposition on security instead of addressing the apology request.
Is their position that there should be no security for a prime minister who travels on vacation with his family
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to criticizing the opposition's votes and questions their stance on PM vacations rather than addressing the consultant or decision query.
Do they believe that a prime minister should not be able to travel at Christmas with his family
- partly answeredEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly confirms reimbursement but then shifts to questioning future PM travel rules.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I can absolutely confirm that he did cover that cost.
- deflectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The response avoids confirming the commercial value payment and instead calls the vacation a preoccupation.
the Prime Minister taking a vacation with his family over Christmas, with his friends, is a preoccupation—
- deflectedEthicsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the ethics commissioner awareness question and reframes around vacation security costs.
Can the Prime Minister go on vacation with his family?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The response accuses the opposition of partisanship and avoids addressing staff concerns or the donor estate.
It is obvious that the concern of the party opposite is purely partisan.
- answeredEthicsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the Prime Minister has had no ties to the foundation for 10 years.
The Prime Minister has not had any ties to the foundation for 10 years.
- deflectedEthicsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the specific allegations about the Trudeau Foundation and Chinese influence.
There is absolutely no question that interference from China or other countries is designed to destroy our democracy.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the need for protection of elections by referencing the appointment of Johnston but does not address the call for a public inquiry.
That is why we made sure to appoint someone who is very reasonable and well known across the country, Mr. Johnston
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's motives instead of addressing whether the Prime Minister paid for accommodations.
one could ask the question, when a party opposite now is deep into question period asking only questions about the Prime Minister 's trip over Christmas with his family, to see that their interest is partisan in nature.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains a personal relationship but avoids confirming whether the Prime Minister paid the accommodation costs.
the Prime Minister has been very clear that this is a family that he has had a close personal relationship with for 50 years.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition for criticizing organizations rather than addressing the call for the brother to testify.
Unfortunately, there are many situations where the party opposite has attacked the Trudeau Foundation, the media, the CBC, pretty much any person and any type of organization.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses to answer the yes-or-no question and instead questions the loyalty of opposition members.
To have their patriotism questioned is unacceptable.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Matthew Green (NDP) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the vacation and security costs but does not address when the Prime Minister will stop working for billionaires.
Yes, the Prime Minister did take a vacation with his family with family friends over Christmas.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Heather McPherson (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains the actions taken regarding the seepage incident and new working group.
Last week, I sent letters to indigenous leaders about the new notification and monitoring working group which, in collaboration with them, will improve the notification process in cases of future environmental emergencies.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking Conservatives on CBC instead of addressing the Trudeau Foundation hearings.
What I find disturbing is this: Whether it is with respect to the CBC, which Conservatives are now attacking as a partisan organization, or a myriad of different organizations, their partisan attacks seem to have no bounds because their interest is in fact partisan.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the query as a conspiracy theory and shifts to inflation and health care.
I do not believe the definition of a cover-up is me not agreeing to follow every conspiracy theory the member opposite has.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer labels the question as partisan games and pivots to attacking the Conservatives on the CBC.
This serves the parties across the way. It is partisanship. It is obvious.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses to engage and instead poses a counter-question about the CBC.
However, I have a question for my colleague opposite. What does he think about the attack on the CBC?
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Ms. Anita Vandenbeld (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses human rights standards and export controls but does not confirm or deny the arms promotion mandate.
The talking points provided were not mentioned during this particular meeting.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Ms. Anita Vandenbeld (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reiterates that human rights were raised but again avoids confirming the briefing note's arms sales directive.
In fact, he took the opportunity of the visit specifically to raise things like labour rights and other human rights issues, as we always do.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Scot Davidson (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the carbon tax and trip cost and instead attacks Conservatives for voting against budget measures.
Conservatives have another opportunity coming up to support budget 2023, which is going to support Canadians through health care, access to the dentist and the grocery rebate.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Warren Steinley (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to climate costs and calls climate denial a hoax rather than addressing the carbon tax or trip.
Doing nothing would also have costs.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the Jamaica trip and carbon tax question entirely and pivots to past Conservative climate failures.
I am very happy to remind the hon. member that Conservatives never met any target that they had set on climate change.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the RCMP shut down the stations and outlines ongoing resource allocation.
The RCMP handled the situation by taking concrete action and shutting down the alleged Chinese-run foreign police station.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer corrects the record on RCMP action but adds an unrelated call to support the budget.
It was the RCMP that shut down the so-called police stations in Canada, and it will continue to take decisive, concrete action against those forms and all forms of foreign interference.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids specifics on prosecutions or legislation and instead accuses the asker of ignoring government efforts.
my colleague can continue to bury his head in the sand on the concrete actions that the RCMP and all agencies within the national security community are taking to protect our institutions.
- partly answeredHealthMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Carolyn Bennett (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists funding and projects but does not address the call for a full-scale response beyond incremental steps.
Since 2017, we have committed more than a billion dollars to address the overdose crisis, and we are taking concrete steps to divert people who use drugs away from the criminal justice system.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Lindsay Mathyssen (NDP) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights training numbers and general support but ignores the specific issue of troops paying for food or reimbursement delays.
Not only have we trained 36,000 members of the Ukrainian armed forces, we are in England, we are in Poland; we are in Latvia continuing to support Ukraine in its time of need.