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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 · sitting No. 104

Commons debates budget bill as Liberals fend off attacks on lab security and C-10

The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of the Budget Implementation Act 2021 No 1. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux opened the debate by stressing continued support for individuals and businesses during the pandemic while Conservative MP Corey Tochor said the bill lacks a growth plan. Bloc Québécois MP Yves Perron pressed the government on its plan to raise old-age security only for those 75 and older.

Question period opened with Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau how two scientists with ties to the Chinese military obtained high-level security clearances at the National Microbiology Laboratory. Trudeau replied that the scientists are no longer employed and that new national-security rules for research partnerships were announced in March.

New Democratic Party Leader Jagmeet Singh pressed Trudeau to reverse an $800 monthly cut to the Canada recovery benefit scheduled for July. Trudeau defended the extension of benefits and said the government remains focused on helping Canadians through the pandemic.

Decided that day

  • M-38 passed
  • M-61 defeated
  • C-265 passed second reading
  • C-297 introduced
  • C-298 introduced
  • S-4 passed second reading

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Who held the floor · 2021-05-26

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 57%, opposition 43% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:0022:00Last speech 23:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
63Bills creep forward, answers mostly dodgeThe House spent most of its time on supply and budget matters, advanced a few bills through second reading or introduction, and recorded three votes on private members' business. Question period produced only one clear answer while nine calls to order interrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canadian Heritage

Bloc Québécois MP Martin Champoux urged the government to pass Bill C-10 before the end of the session to force web giants to contribute to Canadian content. Trudeau said the bill levels the playing field for creators.

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Seniors

Bloc Québécois MP Andréanne Larouche said all parties except the Liberals want old-age security raised for everyone 65 and older. Trudeau defended the increase for those 75 and over as recognition of higher costs later in life.

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Post-Secondary Education

New Democratic Party Leader Jagmeet Singh asked why the government refused to help Laurentian University. Trudeau said post-secondary education is a provincial responsibility but pledged to work with Ontario to protect francophone institutions.

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National Defence

Conservative MP James Bezan asked whether Major-General Dany Fortin remained in his vaccine-rollout post because of ties to the defence minister. Trudeau said he could not comment on an ongoing investigation.

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International Trade

New Democratic Party MP Heather McPherson pressed the government to support a temporary waiver of intellectual-property rights for COVID-19 vaccines. Liberal MP Rachel Bendayan said Canada cannot act unilaterally at the WTO.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the security clearance by citing privacy and employment status instead.We cannot disclose additional information or comment further for privacy reasons and confidentiality
  2. deflected
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general research security measures without committing to ending the specific partnerships.we are committed to supporting open, collaborative research, while also protecting our research, our national security and our economic interests
  3. deflected
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates general outreach efforts without committing to increased security at the lab.Public Safety and CSIS are leading outreach to universities to help them keep research safe
  4. misdirected
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific question and repeats prior talking points on outreach instead of addressing the breach or partnerships.Public safety officials have met with more than 34 universities to help them keep their research safe
  5. deflected
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids a yes-or-no commitment and restates general national security measures.Our government has always taken this threat seriously
  6. partly answered
    Intergovernmental RelationsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references the existing 2006 recognition but does not directly address the new motion.
  7. answered
    Intergovernmental RelationsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms support for protecting Quebec's identity and French language within Canada.Quebeckers and all French-speaking Canadians can count on this government to protect their rights, their culture, the Quebec identity and the Canadian identity
  8. deflected
    COVID-19 Emergency ResponseMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses extensions of benefits but does not commit to reversing the July-August cuts.budget 2021 proposes to extend the Canada recovery benefit up to 50 weeks and the Canada recovery caregiving benefit up to 42 weeks
  9. deflected
    COVID-19 Emergency ResponseMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing bank fees directly by shifting to general support programs.while financial institutions make decisions on bank fees independently from the government, we have been clear in our discussions with these institutions that Canadians are going through a difficult time and that we must all have their backs.
  10. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses to give the requested number citing confidentiality instead of addressing the query.for reasons of confidentiality and privacy, we cannot provide any further information or comments.
  11. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to implying racism by the opposition rather than addressing the information-sharing issue.I also want to mention that we are seeing a disturbing rise in anti-Asian racism. I hope that my Conservative Party colleagues are not raising fears about Asian Canadians.
  12. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer focuses on defending diversity and warning against intolerance instead of confirming the unacceptability of sharing with the regime.However, we will never play into the hands of intolerance towards people from other countries, simply because they look different.
  13. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer evades the yes/no question by invoking anti-Asian racism concerns rather than stating a policy on barring scientists.we will not give in to pandering to anti-Asian racism.
  14. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites privacy to avoid explaining clearances or alleged cover-up and adds an unrelated diversity remark.we cannot disclose additional information nor comment further for privacy reasons and confidentiality.
  15. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the Huawei and CCP connection accusations and pivots to anti-racism statements.at the same time, stand against anti-Asian racism, stand up for diversity and stand against intolerance.
  16. partly answered
    Canadian HeritageMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges cooperation and the need to protect culture but does not commit to passing the bill before session end.we are very pleased with the co-operation we have received from several parties to improve protection for our artists and cultural communities.
  17. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains bill benefits but ignores the specific offer and timeline question.We will continue to work diligently and enthusiastically to protect the Canadian and Quebec cultural sector as we have done all along since coming to power in 2015.
  18. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer restates bill goals without addressing net neutrality or choice removal claims.Bill C-10 aims to level the playing field between creators and web giants.
  19. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives' understanding instead of addressing net neutrality or CRTC powers.in 2017, the Conservatives demonstrated they did not understand net neutrality, and they certainly do not understand it now.
  20. partly answered
    Canadian HeritageMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer discusses Canadian content support but does not classify the specific movie or define criteria.The fact is we made choices to highlight and privilege Canadian content over foreign content.
  21. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking Conservatives rather than addressing impact on individual creators.It is no surprise the Conservatives do not get it.
  22. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains federal program but does not commit to fixing it as asked.We did our part from the federal side.
  23. deflected
    Post-Secondary EducationMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes provincial jurisdiction and general support but does not explain refusal to help.We recognize that this is a provincial jurisdiction.
  24. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats net neutrality denial without addressing expanded CRTC powers over listed platforms.It has no impact on Canada's commitment to net neutrality.
  25. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids choosing between ministers and instead attacks Conservatives while restating bill goals.it is a shame to see Conservatives attacking the Canadian cultural industry once again.
  26. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the yes/no question on regulating apps and pivots to defending the bill and attacking Conservatives.Why do the Conservatives continue to hammer on this? It is simply because they do not support Canada's cultural industry.
  27. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the Conservatives' stance on culture rather than addressing the bill clause or memo.The fact that the Liberal Party, the Bloc Québécois and the NDP can rally today to support content creators in Canada says a lot about the position of the Conservatives, who are once again attacking Quebec culture
  28. partly answered
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the policy rationale for the age split but does not address fixing it for all seniors.We realize that those who are older have many more expenses, so we are going to increase by 10% the old age pension for seniors 75 and up.
  29. deflected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates the rationale for the 75+ increase without engaging the demand to extend it to all seniors.We recognize that starting at age 75, certain costs increase, and that is why increasing old age security for seniors aged 75 and over is a good thing.
  30. partly answered
    Public SafetyCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the scientists' status and national security steps but does not commit to ending all research co-operation with Chinese military.We are committed to supporting open, collaborative research while also protecting our research, national security and economic interests.
  31. misdirected
    Public SafetyCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to accusing the asker of intolerance and racism instead of addressing the research co-operation question.I would recommend that the members of the Conservative Party, in their zeal to make personal attacks, not start to push too far into intolerance towards Canadians of diverse origins.
  32. deflected
    Public SafetyCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general threats and measures but avoids a yes/no commitment on ending military research co-operation.espionage and foreign interference pose real threats to Canadian research security, intellectual property and business interests.
  33. deflected
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites an ongoing investigation to avoid addressing the specific claim about delayed removal due to personal ties.As it is an ongoing investigation, I am not able to comment further, but we remain focused on the vaccine rollout with millions more vaccines arriving every week.
  34. deflected
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists general reforms instead of addressing the allegation of favoritism toward war buddies.We named Lieutenant-General Jennie Carignan as the chief of professional conduct and culture.
  35. deflected
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes future commitments without admitting failure to implement the Deschamps report.We have taken significant steps since we arrived in 2015 to improve the culture at the Canadian Armed Forces, but we recognize there is much more to do.
  36. partly answered
    Diversity and InclusionMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges systemic racism and mentions hiring efforts but provides no concrete new measures.We worked hand in hand with the Black community and with diverse and marginalized communities.
  37. misdirected
    Diversity and InclusionMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Liberal). rhetorical question.The response raises an unrelated point of order about virtual participation instead of addressing the motion.I rise on a point of order rising out of question period.
  38. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.The response continues the procedural dispute rather than resolving the original point about member conduct.If we want to get the attention of the Chair, we put our hand up and then we wait until we are recognized.
  39. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Liberal). rhetorical question.The response reiterates the procedural complaint without engaging the counter-claim about selective enforcement.The point is that those who are doing this are doing it repeatedly, and I would encourage you, Mr. Speaker, to somehow enforce some kind of rule that would prevent this from continuing to happen.
  40. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mr. Bryan May (Liberal). rhetorical question.The response dismisses the statement as not a point of order without addressing the substance.With all due respect, Mr. Speaker, this is not a point of order.