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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 · sitting No. 15
House debates WE Charity scandal on Conservative supply day motion
Government Orders took up most of the sitting as the House considered a Conservative motion on the WE Charity scandal and other pandemic spending issues. Conservative leader Erin O'Toole moved the motion noting unanswered questions from committee meetings and calling for further study of government expenditures. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux responded that Canadians expect parties to work together on the coronavirus response rather than partisan debate.
Question Period featured exchanges on judicial appointments and official languages. Conservative leader Erin O'Toole asked about Liberal influence over judicial selections while Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended the merit-based process. Bloc Québécois MP Richard Martel questioned the government's handling of the WE program in relation to French-language services and Quebec industries.
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- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes reforms without addressing the specific claim about the adviser or number of appointments.
we reformed the judicial appointments process, making it merit-based and creating independent committees to make recommendations on judicial appointments.
- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the merit-based claim and avoids the question about dismissed staffers.
We are working with independent committees to make decisions and recommendations.
- misdirectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the prior Conservative government instead of addressing vacancies or donor claims.
we will take no lessons from the Conservatives, with the way they did partisan appointments.
- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts entirely to pandemic focus and avoids the double-standard or WE question.
Yesterday, there were 2,400 new cases of COVID-19, and we will continue to focus on helping families, businesses, workers and grandparents.
- misdirectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to accusing the opposition of seeking an election rather than naming any person under the redactions.
The question he has put before the House, which will be voted on tomorrow, is whether or not the government has lost the confidence of Parliament.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer emphasizes daily work for Canadians but does not state whether an election is desired.
That is why those of us on this side of the House are working so hard to deliver the goods for Canadians.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer again stresses delivery on programs and leaves the election decision to the opposition without a clear yes or no.
It is up to the opposition to decide if they want an election.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer points to a proposed committee but does not address the fear of scrutiny or the WE documents.
we have proposed a special committee to review government spending and investments.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses the choice presented but reframes it around opposition's motion rather than directly addressing cover-up claim.
Now the opposition parties have a choice. Do they want to make Parliament work and work for Canadians, or do they want to vote non-confidence and trigger an election?
- deflectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the question about threats and cover-up by attacking Conservatives as partisan and irresponsible.
What the Conservatives are doing is trying to jam the government.
- deflectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the question on election threats and cover-up, instead attacking the motion as irresponsible.
the best thing they find to do is to come up with this ultra-irresponsible motion.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer changes subject to criticizing the motion instead of addressing what is being hidden.
The best idea, with all their brains around the table, that they came up with is a motion that wants to jam and paralyze the government.
- misdirectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker personally by quoting him instead of addressing the cover-up or election question.
Who said that? It was the member for Carleton
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to criticizing the opposition motion rather than addressing the official languages failure.
why is the opposition prioritizing a completely partisan and irresponsible motion over working with the government to protect the health of Canadians
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the question on ignoring francophones and instead attacks the motion while claiming to support Quebec.
We will be there for Quebec during and after this pandemic, unlike the Conservatives, whose idea of doing the right thing and standing up for Quebec is to create a partisan committee.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Bloc's credibility on confidence votes instead of addressing the ethical issues or election bluff.
the Bloc Québécois does not have much credibility with regard to the confidence vote.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer accuses the Bloc of aligning with Conservatives to force an election rather than addressing ethics or the confidence vote challenge.
The Bloc, however, is irresponsibly aligning itself with the Conservatives to try to topple the government.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer quotes procedural rules about cabinet confidences instead of addressing the filibuster or document production.
the decision on what to reveal is made by non-partisan public servants, for whom it has long been a tradition not to reveal cabinet confidences.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses Conservatives of provoking an election and defends their own committee proposal instead of addressing what documents are being hidden.
I guess the Conservatives will stop at nothing to provoke an election, Mr. Speaker.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's selective view of truth and promotes their committee instead of explaining refusal to hand over WE documents.
they will always side with the truth when the truth suits them.
- answeredGovernment AppointmentsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly states no pressure was faced and affirms the minister's sole responsibility for recommendations.
Let me be clear: I have never faced any pressure from anyone to appoint a judge.
- deflectedIndigenous AffairsMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Bernadette Jordan (Liberal). substantive question.Answer restates government position on treaty rights and safety without explaining the no votes on the motion.
our government is having nation-to-nation conversations with first nations.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.Answer describes the appointment process but does not address concerns about current partisan influence or past scandals.
we put in a process for appointing judges, which removes the partisanship we saw with the previous government.
- deflectedHealthMichelle Rempel Garner (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.Answer emphasizes science and border safety but ignores the questions on rapid testing and blocking the health committee.
We will always put the health and safety of Canadians first and foremost in everything we do.
- deflectedHealthMichelle Rempel Garner (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the accusation of blocking committee review by restating general commitments to science.
the health committee is free to study the issues it chooses.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the issue but provides only vague assurances without explaining the lack of response.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the five-year pattern of complaints and pivots to pandemic achievements instead.
During the pandemic, the Canada Revenue Agency has served more than eight million Canadians.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Rhéal Fortin (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer denies partisanship without addressing the specific claims about Liberalist checks or riding presidents.
There is no partisanship in my decision-making process.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Rhéal Fortin (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise as untrue and shifts to praising appointments rather than engaging the donation data.
what my colleague just said is simply not true.
- answeredHealthMr. Tako Van Popta (Conservative) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly reconciles the two safety concerns and explains the policy balance.
- partly answeredHealthMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes ongoing research but does not commit to rapid testing or explain the delay.
We will come back to the House with details when they are available.
- answeredCOVID-19 Emergency ResponseMr. Randy Hoback (Conservative) asked Mary Ng (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms the fix is imminent and explains the banking due-diligence barrier.
We will announce very shortly the process for them to get access to that loan.
- deflectedEthicsKerry-Lynne Findlay (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition motion and suggests asking different questions rather than addressing the request to end roadblocks and delays.
Instead of being here today debating an ultra-partisan, irresponsible motion, we can be debating how we can help our seniors, how can we help our provinces and how can we help our businesses.
- deflectedEthicsSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.The answer again pivots to criticizing the motion and listing other priorities instead of addressing where money is going or what is being hidden.
That is what we should be debating today, not an irresponsible motion like this.
- deflectedRegional Economic DevelopmentMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general northern Ontario investments but does not state how many jobs were created in Sault Ste. Marie from the specific funding.
We have protected thousands of jobs across Ontario, in particular in northern Ontario.
- misdirectedHousingMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's characterization of the funding instead of explaining why application details for the rapid housing initiative are still missing.
only the New Democratic Party would consider a $1-billion investment in rapid housing to be "insignificant."
- partly answeredIndigenous AffairsJody Wilson-Raybould (Independent) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references UNDRIP as a step on rights recognition but does not address the specific question on property taxes under the First Nations Fiscal Management Act.
In my particular case, it is in my mandate letter to advance the passage of UNDRIP, the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.