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Thursday, November 1, 2018 · sitting No. 347
House debates budget bill amid clashes over privacy and carbon tax
The House spent the largest portion of the day on second reading of Bill C-86, the second budget implementation act. Liberal parliamentary secretary Joël Lightbound moved the bill and defended its measures on infrastructure, pay equity and pricing pollution. The bill remains before the House.
In Question Period Conservatives pressed the government on Statistics Canada seeking personal banking records without consent. Gérard Deltell and Mark Strahl called the requests an invasion of privacy while François-Philippe Champagne said the agency has handled such data for a century and will anonymize it. Pierre Poilievre challenged the carbon-pricing exemption for large emitters and Dominic LeBlanc said the plan protects the environment while supporting jobs.
Decided that day
- Motion to proceed to Orders of the Day passed
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Who held the floor · 2018-11-01
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International Trade
NDP MP Karine Trudel asked when dairy producers would receive compensation for CPTPP market access while Agriculture Minister Lawrence MacAulay said working groups are being formed to support supply-managed sectors.
Read the exchangePhysician-Assisted Dying
NDP MP Murray Rankin urged the government to allow advance requests after Audrey Parker ended her life early and Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor said an expert panel is examining the issue.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
NDP MP Hélène Laverdière called for an immediate halt to arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Defence Minister Andrew Leslie said export permits are under review.
Read the exchangeHousing
Independent MP Hunter Tootoo said the housing shortage in Nunavut is driving youth suicide and tuberculosis and Families Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said the national housing strategy will invest $240 million there.
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- deflectedPrivacyMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights Statistics Canada's history and the Privacy Commissioner's involvement but sidesteps the demand to halt the data collection.
Of course our government takes Canadians' privacy very seriously.
- deflectedPrivacyMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The response accuses the opposition of fearmongering and reiterates existing practices without addressing the call to stop the program.
what Canadians find intolerable is the Conservative Party's fearmongering.
- deflectedPrivacyMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends Statistics Canada and notes data anonymization but ignores the request to cease accessing personal data.
The data it receives will be stripped of all personal information when it receives it, so Canadians can be assured that their banking information is protected and private.
- misdirectedPrivacyMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' record instead of addressing consent or halting the data access.
we have no lessons to receive from the Conservatives, and Canadians know that.
- deflectedPrivacyMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The response urges trust in Statistics Canada and dismisses concerns without engaging the consent issue or stopping the collection.
what we are going to start doing is to trust Statistics Canada.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the government's plan and attacks Conservatives rather than addressing the legal challenge or stronger targets.
I think some colleagues will agree that it is not in this part of the House of Commons that there is hot air being produced with respect to climate change.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The response defends the existing plan and price on pollution but does not address why Harper-era targets are retained.
As we have always said, our government takes climate change very seriously.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges urgency and outlines the plan but does not state whether the government will support the motion.
I do share our hon. colleague's sense of urgency in terms of the fight against climate change.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer promotes the government's existing plan and Quebec's record instead of addressing the lawsuit or cleanup costs.
we are going to take climate change seriously, and we have a plan that Canadians understand and that will make a real difference in the fight against climate change.
- deflectedPrivacyMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites past Conservative use of the Statistics Act rather than addressing unauthorized surveillance concerns.
How many times did Statistics Canada use this section when these very same Conservatives were in power? Not once, not twice, not even a dozen times, but 84 times.
- deflectedPrivacyMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes anonymization and respect for Statistics Canada without addressing the surveillance principle or halting it.
The data it receives will be scrubbed. All the personal information from it will be removed before it is made in any way available, compiled, etcetera, for the use of governments, Canadians, businesses and small business across Canada.
- deflectedPrivacyMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats that data will be anonymous and within the Act without addressing consent or collection without it.
The personal information that will be collected and studied by Statistics Canada will be scrubbed and anonymous.
- misdirectedPrivacyMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative ideology and history instead of addressing the Prime Minister's stance on financial surveillance.
unlike the previous Conservative government, in the development of policy and public policy, we think facts are a good place to start and not ideology, which is how the Conservatives based its decisions.
- misdirectedPrivacyMr. Arnold Viersen (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' record on privacy instead of addressing the current surveillance or Privacy Commissioner investigation.
I find it a little rich that the Conservatives make themselves the defendants of Canadians' privacy.
- misdirectedPrivacyMr. Ron Liepert (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing the Conservative Party's views on Pierre Trudeau instead of addressing the surveillance concerns raised.
It is unfortunate that many people in that party still disagree with that today.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges impact on farmers and mentions working groups but does not specify compensation details or timeline.
we are committed to fully and fairly supporting them and to make sure that they succeed.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the carbon tax exemption question and instead attacks the opposition's association with the Fords.
We saw it in the dying days of the 2015 campaign when Stephen Harper became a convert to the Ford nation.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the exemption question entirely by shifting to criticism of Conservative leaders seeking Ford endorsements.
we saw yesterday another example of what Conservative leaders do when they are in dire straits.
- deflectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the large-emitter exemption by listing unrelated Liberal policies and urging Conservatives to support the middle class.
It is interesting that the Conservatives have finally found the courage to stand up for the middle class, which they have been lacking for several years.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of distorting facts and pivots to attacking past Conservative governments rather than clarifying the exemption.
Their only plan when they were in government was to plunge us into a recession and they liked it so much they tried it twice.
- partly answeredPhysician-Assisted DyingMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the specific case and explains the expert review process but does not commit to legislation before the election.
Once again, we will continue to work on this matter, and I look forward to receiving the experts' report.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Andrew Leslie (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the call to stop arms sales by describing the review process but offers no immediate action or halt.
We are reviewing export permits to Saudi Arabia, we have frozen permits in the past and we will not hesitate to do so again if necessary.
- answeredBorder SecurityMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Schiefke (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly responds to the resource concern by citing new investments for border services and deportations.
Some of that money will be used to ensure that we are better equipped to manage the situation.
- answeredBorder SecurityMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Schiefke (Liberal). substantive question.Answer gives a clear affirmative response to readiness for deportations and ties it to prior investments.
- deflectedImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the spending question by pivoting to economic benefits and attacking Conservatives.
They believe in spreading fear and division and dog whistling at Canadians.
- deflectedImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the safe third country loophole and hotel spending to repeat economic talking points and attack past Conservative record.
It is rich for the party opposite to talk about immigration in positive terms after it failed on the immigration front for close to 10 years.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Mrs. Deborah Schulte (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses CRA flexibility for refugees but does not engage the premise about targeting refugees versus corporations.
If obtaining documentation poses a problem, different alternatives adapted to the particular situation of the individual can be proposed.
- partly answeredCanadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Andy Fillmore (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses cultural policy and Netflix indirectly via review of laws but does not confirm application to online platforms.
Due to the previous Conservative government's inaction, the lost decade, our laws on culture predate the Internet, which is why we are reviewing them so we can continue to support high quality Canadian content production.
- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids releasing documents or addressing cover-up by citing ongoing court proceedings.
The appropriate place for those issues to be resolved are in the courts of law.
- deflectedEthicsErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.Answer refuses to release names and pivots to sub judice rule while accusing asker of smears.
we have just seen a demonstration of why these issues should be dealt with in courts of law, so we can avoid the innuendos and the drive-by smears.
- answeredJusticeTony Clement (Conservative) asked Jody Wilson-Raybould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly rejects the claim that sentences are being reduced and explains the bill's intent.
There is nothing in this legislation that would reduce sentences.
- answeredCanada Post CorporationMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Mr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the question by stating the government's stance on collective bargaining and non-interference.
our government believes in the collective bargaining process.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Mr. Paul Lefebvre (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the prior government and endorses the bill without addressing whether it will be scrapped.
We will take no lessons from them on how to move our major projects forward.
- deflectedImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Mario Beaulieu (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The response pivots to future collaboration and avoids the stated increase or alleged motive.
Our government looks forward to working with the new government in Quebec on important topics like immigration
- misdirectedImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Simon Marcil (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer expresses regret and surprise at the question instead of addressing Quebec's input on thresholds.
I am surprised to hear such remarks from that corner of the House of Commons.
- partly answeredHousingHunter Tootoo (Independent) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer cites existing funding allocations but does not commit to an immediate increase.
That is why the national housing strategy is investing $240 million in Nunavut alone to provide 3,000 families in Nunavut with a safe and affordable place to call home.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. John Nater (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer supplies a clear schedule for the remainder of the week and the following week.
this afternoon, tomorrow and next Tuesday, we will continue debate at second reading of Bill C-86 , the second budget implementation act, 2018.