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Tuesday, October 2, 2018 · sitting No. 330

House debates motion to reverse McClintic transfer to healing lodge

The House spent most of the day on a Conservative opposition motion that condemns the transfer of convicted murderer Terri-Lynne McClintic to a healing lodge and calls on the government to reverse the decision. Conservative MP Candice Bergen moved the motion during Government Orders and debate continued through numerous interventions before all questions were deemed put and a recorded division was deferred until after Oral Questions on Wednesday.

In Question Period, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Conservative MP Lisa Raitt pressed Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale on the McClintic case, arguing the transfer placed the killer in an inappropriate facility with children present. Goodale replied that he had asked the Correctional Service of Canada to review whether policies were followed and whether they remain appropriate.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Conservative MP Alain Rayes also questioned International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland on the new United States-Mexico-Canada agreement, saying Canada had made major concessions on dairy, pharmaceuticals and other sectors without securing gains on softwood lumber or steel tariffs. Freeland said the deal preserves market access and removes investor-state dispute settlement.

Decided that day

  • Opposition motion on housing as a human right failed

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Who held the floor · 2018-10-02

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 37%, opposition 63% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
44Housing motion fails amid supply debatesThe sitting devoted most time to Business of Supply and an opposition motion that was defeated, with no bills advancing. Question Period produced mostly deflected answers and several points of order interrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Petitions

Conservative MP David Tilson presented a petition from residents of Dufferin—Caledon calling for removal of the attestation requirement in the summer jobs program.

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Health

NDP MP Don Davies asked why the government agreed to extended data protection for biologic drugs in the new trade deal, and International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland replied that the government is working with provinces to lower drug prices.

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The Environment

NDP MP Fin Donnelly asked how many more whales must die before the government acts on the environment commissioner's report on marine mammals, and Parliamentary Secretary Sean Casey said the government accepts the recommendations and will develop further measures.

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Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship

Conservative MP Michelle Rempel asked how many irregular migrants remain in Toronto hotels and at what cost, and Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said the City of Toronto is working to find permanent housing solutions.

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Natural Resources

Liberal MP Sukh Dhaliwal asked Natural Resources Minister Amarjeet Sohi about the $40-billion LNG Canada project, and Sohi said the investment will create 10,000 jobs and billions in revenue.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    JusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses past classification and orders a review rather than reversing the move or apologizing.I have asked the commissioner of corrections to review every dimension of this case to ensure the proper process was followed and also to determine whether the policies applicable are the correct ones or do they need to be changed.
  2. deflected
    International TradeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights other gains but does not confirm any progress on softwood lumber tariffs.the most important gain from this agreement is retaining our access to the U.S. market, and Canadians understand that.
  3. misdirected
    International TradeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to quoting a former Conservative prime minister instead of addressing the listed concessions.Canadians should listen to a Conservative who actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to trade.
  4. misdirected
    International TradeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the previous Conservative government rather than identifying new gains in the agreement.the Conservatives seemed to have regained their confidence, which is surprising, since last year, Stephen Harper and the Conservatives were begging us to give in and accept any agreement, no matter the cost to Canadians.
  5. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists several changes from the prior agreement but does not address steel, aluminum or softwood tariffs.We have gotten rid of the NAFTA clause that undermined our sovereignty by preventing our government from controlling access to our precious energy resources.
  6. deflected
    International TradeMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer asserts preservation of supply management without addressing the cumulative market access granted.This agreement will provide market access, but most importantly it does not put the future of supply management in question.
  7. deflected
    International TradeMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer claims defence of supply management and promises compensation but does not address class 7 or diafiltered milk.Our government defended our supply management system, which the U.S. sought to dismantle.
  8. deflected
    International TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer asserts retained sovereignty but does not address the specific clause limiting trade with other countries.let me be clear: Canada retains full sovereignty and complete control over our trade relations.
  9. deflected
    International TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reassures steel workers but evades the question on job losses and lack of tariff assurances in the signed deal.I want to assure Canada's steel and aluminum workers that we are 100% with them.
  10. deflected
    International TradeMr. Dean Allison (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists deal improvements but ignores the direct question on when steel and aluminum tariffs will be removed.We have removed ISDS, which has allowed U.S. companies to sue our country and has cost us hundreds of millions of dollars.
  11. misdirected
    International TradeMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner by preferring another Conservative's view instead of addressing ongoing steel tariffs.I prefer to listen to a Conservative who actually knows what he is talking about, like the first NAFTA negotiator, former prime minister Brian Mulroney
  12. deflected
    International TradeMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promotes the deal's benefits but avoids confirming whether U.S. tariffs on steel, aluminum and softwood lumber remain in place.we negotiated an agreement that protects Canadian jobs and creates opportunities for the middle class.
  13. deflected
    International TradePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of hypocrisy rather than addressing the concessions made in the deal.the hypocrisy on the other side of the aisle is astonishing to me.
  14. deflected
    International TradePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the government's firmness but sidesteps the specific list of capitulations raised in the question.Our government is the one that in the face of hesitation, anxiety and hand-wringing from the other side of the aisle, stood firm and was resolute in defence of Canadian national interests.
  15. partly answered
    International TradePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer corrects one factual claim about auto caps but still evades the broader question on multiple concessions.There is of course no cap, no quota on Canadian autos and car part exports to the United States.
  16. deflected
    International TradeMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer affirms support for supply management but does not address the specific concerns about lost revenue and young farmers leaving the sector.A Liberal government created supply management, and it is a Liberal government that is preserving it.
  17. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses supply management preservation and compensation but ignores food safety claims.This agreement will provide some market access, but the most important thing, and what we achieved, was to preserve the future of supply management, which the U.S. had sought to dismantle.
  18. answered
    JusticeLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly explains the review process requested to check policies and ensure public safety.Through the review that I have requested, we will determine whether all relevant policies were properly followed.
  19. deflected
    JusticeLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids addressing the request for apology or regret and restates focus on justice process.What we are trying to do is to make sure that in this case, and in every case, justice is not only done but is seen to be done.
  20. answered
    JusticeMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains the purpose of the review regarding policy application and potential changes.the whole purpose of the review is to examine the decision-making process, to make absolutely certain that the process was properly followed, that all policies were properly applied
  21. answered
    JusticeMrs. Karen Vecchio (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.Answer confirms examination of decisions to verify proper application of law and processes.We are going to look at that decision and every subsequent decision to make sure that the law and the process were properly applied, and where those laws and processes need to be changed, they will be.
  22. partly answered
    HealthMs. Brigitte Sansoucy (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer covers actions on drug costs but does not address timeline for universal pharmacare or USMCA impact.We joined the pan-Canadian Pharmaceutical Alliance, which has helped Canadians save over $2 billion annually.
  23. deflected
    HealthMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses general drug price efforts and health system pride without addressing the specific trade measure on biologics.We continue to work with the provinces, territories and our partners to lower drug prices and provide timely access to medicine.
  24. answered
    JusticeTony Clement (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.Answer details examination of facts, policies, and notes healing lodge security history including under prior government.It is important to note that the lodge is both a medium- and a minimum-security facility. It has not had an escape in at least 10 years.
  25. deflected
    JusticeTony Clement (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to concerns about politicians deciding offender treatment and a review process instead of addressing support for the motion.That was the same concern expressed by the Department of Justice.
  26. deflected
    JusticeMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer provides information on mother-child programs rather than addressing the motion or victims' rights priority.As a matter of fact, there is a mother-child program in every women's facility in the country, all of them together, and there has never been an incident.
  27. deflected
    JusticeMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer examines the proposed solution by referencing the mother-child program at Grand Valley instead of committing to the motion.again, to examine the solution that the hon. member is proposing, there is a mother-child program at Grand Valley, which is where they are suggesting McClintic go.
  28. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Mr. Sean Casey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer accepts the report and states ongoing measures but does not specify how many more deaths would trigger action.we accept the commissioner's report and recommendations, and we continue to take measures to look for more actions to protect our marine mammals
  29. answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer directly accepts the recommendations and commits to an action plan addressing the report's problems.We will develop an action plan with the Minister of Health to address the specific problems described in the report.
  30. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer cites reduced interceptions and commitments instead of answering hotel duration or taxpayer costs.the data since last summer show that, compared to last year, the number of irregular migrants being intercepted at the border has dropped by half.
  31. partly answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Bill Blair (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes Toronto's efforts on permanent housing but provides no numbers, duration, or total costs for hotels.The City of Toronto has been working diligently to find a permanent housing solution for the families that are currently housed in a temporary housing facility.
  32. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Bill Blair (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses Toronto's long-term use of hotels and intergovernmental work rather than justifying continued taxpayer-funded hotel stays.the City of Toronto has for over a decade used temporary shelter in rental accommodations at hotels in order to deal with a surplus of people requiring temporary shelter.
  33. answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Phil McColeman (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly states that ill or injured veterans have access to the program, addressing the core claim.Both healthy and ill or injured veterans have access to the career transition program.
  34. answered
    Marine TransportationMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains ongoing steps to address anchorages and vessel traffic impacting communities.We are taking steps to try to find a solution to this large amount of traffic in order to respect the communities and indigenous peoples where temporary anchorages exist at the moment.
  35. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsK. Kellie Leitch (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the privacy concern and states the case was reviewed but avoids specifics or timeline.We have looked into this case.
  36. deflected
    International TradeMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses unrelated trade protections instead of addressing dairy farmers or Quebec's interests in negotiations.the cultural exemption is very important to all Canadians, but especially to Quebeckers.
  37. deflected
    International TradeMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates general support for supply management without addressing the specific claims about breaches or diafiltered milk.It was a Liberal government that created supply management and it is a Liberal government that is preserving it.
  38. answered
    Economic DevelopmentHunter Tootoo (Independent) asked Navdeep Bains (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms work on the funding and commits to resolution for the feasibility study.That is why CanNor officials are working on this.