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Tuesday, September 25, 2018 · sitting No. 325

Conservatives move to strip benefits from killer of officer

The House spent most of the day on a Conservative supply motion that calls on the government to revoke Veterans Affairs Canada benefits extended to Chris Garnier, who is serving a sentence for second-degree murder and interfering with the body of police officer Catherine Campbell. Conservative MP Phil McColeman moved the motion and said the case is a one-off that requires immediate action. Liberal MP Robert-Falcon Ouellette defended the department's approach and noted past Conservative cuts to veterans programs.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on the same case, with Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and MP Lisa Raitt pressing Minister Seamus O'Regan to cancel the benefits. O'Regan said he had directed a review but would not discuss a veteran's family member's file. The House also heard clashes over the Trans Mountain pipeline, with Scheer asking when promised legislation would be introduced and Minister Amarjeet Sohi replying that the government is consulting indigenous groups and protecting the marine environment.

Decided that day

  • Opposition motion on veterans failed
  • Bills S-254 and C-414 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2018-09-25

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 40%, opposition 60% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
55Motion Falls, Two Bills IntroducedThe House devoted most time to substantive supply and committee business yet achieved only modest progress. An opposition motion failed while Question Period produced few direct answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Committees of the House

Liberal MP Bill Casey presented the health committee's 19th report on organ donation in Canada and said every party had taken an interest in the seven recommendations.

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Jobs and Economic Growth Act

NDP MP Daniel Blaikie introduced Bill C-414 to amend the Jobs and Economic Growth Act and extend a grace period for Canadian Nuclear Laboratories Ltd. pensioners after privatization.

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Petitions

Conservative MP Garnett Genuis presented a petition calling on the government to stop imposing a values test on applicants to the Canada summer jobs program.

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Petitions

NDP MP Brian Masse supported a petition urging the government to adopt Motion No. 117 for a pan-Canadian strategy on eating disorders that includes prevention and research.

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New Brunswick Election

Liberal MP Matt DeCourcey thanked New Brunswickers and poll workers for participating in the provincial election and noted the role of volunteers.

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Status of Women

NDP MP Sheila Malcolmson asked why the government had not yet introduced promised proactive pay equity legislation after 42 years, and Minister Patty Hajdu said consultations are complete and a bill will come later this year.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses the specific case by ordering a policy review but does not confirm cancellation of benefits.I am directing the department to immediately address its policy of providing treatment to family members under extenuating circumstances, such as conviction of such a serious crime.
  2. deflected
    Natural ResourcesAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.Answer ignores the question on legislation timing and instead attacks the opposition's past record.what we heard yesterday from the Leader of the Opposition was the failed policies of the Harper era.
  3. deflected
    Natural ResourcesAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.Answer again pivots to Harper record instead of addressing the request for legislation introduction.let us talk about the failed record of the Harper government to build a single pipeline to expand our global non-U.S. markets.
  4. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains the approach but provides no date for start of work as requested.we are moving forward on this project in the right way, making sure that we are respecting our obligations to meaningfully consult with indigenous peoples
  5. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the declaratory power proposal and restates consultation talking points.for years the previous government cut corners, disregarded environmental regulations and ignored the indigenous people's right to be meaningfully consulted.
  6. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges consultation concerns and references NEB review but offers no new commitments beyond prior statements.We have instructed the NEB to undertake the review that was denied by the previous Conservative government to factor in the impact of the marine shipping on the marine environment.
  7. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts focus to market expansion rather than addressing meaningful consultation standards.the issue that the member from the NDP is not focused on is that we need to make sure we are expanding our global market for our natural resources.
  8. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). rhetorical question.Question expresses frustration without seeking specific information; answer restates general respect for indigenous peoples.we have a tremendous amount of respect for indigenous Canadians from coast to coast to coast.
  9. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.The answer acknowledges diverse indigenous views and benefit agreements but sidesteps the core claim about respect for the relationship.A number of first nations communities have signed benefit agreements because they see the value of this project.
  10. deflected
    Veterans AffairsLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the benefits question entirely by invoking privacy and attacking the opposition's past record.It played with veterans health records like it was playing cards.
  11. deflected
    Veterans AffairsLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses to address retroactive payments by again citing privacy and pivoting to general veteran support.I cannot discuss this case without infringing upon the privacy of a veteran.
  12. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific request to end benefits and instead lists unrelated government actions on veterans.We have increased services. We have reopened offices. We have increased staff.
  13. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer concedes outrage exists but refuses to act on the benefits issue by appealing to abstract principles.Our outrage should not factor into justice and into laws.
  14. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Phil McColeman (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's record instead of addressing leadership or resignation demands.for 10 years, the House was used as a place where people on that side of the House cut benefits, cut services, closed offices, cut staff and took away an ID card from veterans.
  15. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Phil McColeman (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer again invokes privacy of the veteran and refuses to discuss ending benefits.we cannot discuss the details of this case without discussing the case of the veteran, and we will not.
  16. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses environmental work on spills and species but does not respond to the 60-day ultimatum or timeline.We have done an enormous amount of work on ensuring we are protecting the coast, preventing spills.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government actions on marine protection without addressing the specific Washington state concerns or the purchase rationale.We have done the work to ensure that the process can be handled in an environmentally sustainable way.
  18. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the question as political expediency rather than addressing veterans benefits eligibility.It should not have to endure this case being brought up for political expediency.
  19. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights spending and services without addressing ending benefits for the named individual.We have spent $10 billion in three years on our veterans and their families.
  20. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing the prior government's record instead of responding to the benefits question.those on the other side of the House had 10 years to do better by our veterans
  21. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reframes around supporting veterans broadly without addressing payments to the non-veteran.Even in the most extenuating of circumstances, we will stand with that veteran
  22. partly answered
    International TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Andrew Leslie (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms commitment to affordable drugs and NAFTA talks but offers no explicit commitment on the requested point.We will continue to work with the provinces, territories and our partners to lower drug prices and provide timely access to medicines.
  23. deflected
    Intergovernmental AffairsMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states a general position on the clause but does not address the request for a study.our government has been very clear. We think the notwithstanding clause should only be considered in the most exceptional of circumstances.
  24. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes the opposition's past record instead of addressing adoption of the proposed plan.after a decade of failure, the official opposition is still repeating the same thing it has done for a decade
  25. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates government policy on consultation and environment without addressing the timeline or plan request.We recognize there is a diversity of opinions among indigenous peoples.
  26. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservative record instead of addressing when the minister will act on the pipeline.what the Conservatives announced yesterday was a dissertation on a decade of failure
  27. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses past NEB decisions but does not answer when the pipeline will move forward.The record has been very clear that that was the wrong decision to make.
  28. deflected
    HealthMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the opioid crisis generally but avoids the NAFTA or war-on-drugs premise.Substance abuse is an international problem and the global call for action will help us move forward.
  29. deflected
    HealthMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on the opioid crisis and international action without addressing the request to condemn Trump.An international call to action will help us to move forward.
  30. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to supporting the veteran rather than answering whether benefits to Garnier will be rescinded.I will stand by that veteran even under the most excruciating of circumstances
  31. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats support for the veteran and does not address rescinding benefits for Garnier.Our support for that veteran is unwavering.
  32. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the prior government's record instead of answering whether Garnier must repay benefits.I know the cost of 10 years of not just neglect but malice toward our veterans and their families.
  33. answered
    Public Services and ProcurementSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly confirms use of original stones and regulatory compliance for any additions.We will repair the fort using original Citadelle stones.
  34. answered
    Status of WomenMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explicitly states the government will introduce the promised legislation later this year.Consultations have been done and we will be moving forward with pay equity legislation later this year.
  35. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMike Lake (Conservative) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer asserts confidence in meeting targets but immediately pivots to attacking the questioner and his party.I invite the hon. member to get on board instead of taking money out of his constituents' pockets so that he can make pollution free again.
  36. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Mario Beaulieu (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer discusses general facts and priorities without addressing who holds authority or knowledge of the files.As a government, we make evidence-based decisions, and the data show that the number of border crossers intercepted is lower than it was last year.
  37. answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer opens by confirming authority and acknowledges the reimbursement obligation to Quebec.
  38. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists general climate policies but never addresses whether the NEB will be instructed to assess the pipeline's climate impacts.This means we are going to take steps to get our resources to new markets while we still take steps to protect our environment and meet our Paris Agreement commitments.