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Thursday, November 30, 2017 · sitting No. 242

Conservatives accuse finance minister of insider knowledge in share sale

Question period on ethics consumed the largest share of the sitting as Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked whether the finance minister's father sold Morneau Shepell shares days before a tax announcement that reduced the company's value. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau replied that the opposition could not challenge the government's record on growth and tax relief and therefore resorted to unsubstantiated claims.

The House continued debate on Senate amendments to Bill S-3, which would remove sex-based inequities from Indian Act registration. NDP MP Nathan Cullen said the bill's 1951 cutoff would leave some women without remedy, while Liberal MP Mike Bossio warned against Ottawa dictating membership rules to first nations.

Committees presented multiple reports, including one from the procedure and House affairs committee on family-friendly changes to House operations and another from the environment committee recommending against further consideration of Bill C-323.

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Who held the floor · 2017-11-30

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 45%, opposition 55% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
25Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to debate on ethics, committees and the Indian Act, with no bills advanced or votes recorded. Question period produced mostly deflected answers and nine calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Indian Act

Liberal MP Yvonne Jones told NDP MP Nathan Cullen that simply repealing the Indian Act without replacement legislation would create serious difficulties for first nations.

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Committees of the House

Conservative MP Michelle Rempel moved concurrence in the citizenship and immigration committee's unanimous report on problems with immigration consultants preying on vulnerable applicants.

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Status of Women

NDP MP Jenny Kwan called on the government to proclaim December 13 as Nanjing Massacre Commemorative Day to honour the victims of mass killings and sexual slavery in 1937.

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Public Services and Procurement

NDP MP Erin Weir pressed the government on why public servants must repay emergency pay advances caused by the Phoenix system's failures.

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Natural Resources

NDP MP Kennedy Stewart accused the government of asking the National Energy Board to override Burnaby and British Columbia permitting authority for the Trans Mountain expansion.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids identifying who sold shares by accusing Conservatives of baseless allegations they will not repeat outside the House.That is the proof that these are nothing but baseless allegations.
  2. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the question on the father's share sale by pivoting to economic achievements instead of addressing the timing.this finance minister has been responsible for extraordinary growth, the best growth in the G7
  3. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific trading details by claiming the allegations are slanderous smears not repeated outside the House.That is demonstration that this is nothing but a slanderous smear job.
  4. deflected
    EthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades naming the seller by accusing Conservatives of unfounded personal attacks they cannot repeat outside.Canadians can clearly see that the Conservatives are making unfounded personal attacks only because they are unable to criticize our outstanding economic track record
  5. deflected
    EthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the demand to fire the minister and instead highlights government achievements while labeling attacks as dirty and unfounded.The members opposite have nothing they can attack us on, so they choose to make dirty, personal attacks, which are unfounded
  6. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids clarifying the sale date by contrasting past NDP opposition with current economic record and calling attacks unfounded.all they can do is follow the Conservatives' lead by making unfounded personal attacks.
  7. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the conflict-of-interest concerns by stating the allegations are invented and will not be repeated outside the House.they have to invent these unfounded, baseless allegations, that not one of them, from either party, will repeat outside of this House
  8. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer refuses to address the share-sale timing or father's transactions by accusing the opposition of switching to slander they dare not repeat outside.they have to switch to slander, which is why they are not saying any of these allegations outside of this House, because they do not want to get sued.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioners as making personal attacks and pivots to economic achievements without addressing any specific share-sale or truth-telling claims.it is sad to see hon. members of the House making unfounded personal attacks.
  10. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states that share sales were publicly reported and that rules were followed but then shifts to criticizing the level of discourse instead of directly answering why questions are not being answered inside the House.I am disappointed that the House has gotten to this low level of discourse, but I will continue--
  11. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer begins to address the share-sale date but is cut off and does not fully respond to the resignation demand or the premise of using family fortune to avoid questions.I absolutely said that I sold some shares. That happened--
  12. misdirected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer expresses disgust at the questioner mentioning family and challenges him to move the discussion outside rather than addressing the coincidence of share sales before tax changes.I actually did not know that the member for Carleton could sink any lower.
  13. misdirected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer refuses an ethical lesson from the questioner by citing past Ethics Commissioner and Elections Canada issues instead of clarifying whether the share sales were a coincidence.no ethical lesson from someone who actually had a report from the Ethics Commissioner on his desk when he was the minister and did not act on it.
  14. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates that direction was given to sell shares and then dismisses the market-impact insinuation without confirming the exact date or addressing the coincidence directly.a simple answer, one that perhaps the member from Carleton will not understand.
  15. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reviews the tax announcement to 36 million Canadians and market performance but avoids identifying who knew the timing in advance and instead challenges the member to say something worthwhile.If there is something the member opposite would actually like to say, something that is worth saying in the House, he should say it.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer calls the question sad for involving family and demands the member say what he means but provides no information on whether anyone knew about the announcement beforehand.it is rather sad to hear such a question in the House.
  17. answered
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that no one outside a closed circle knew in advance.of course no one outside the closed circle within the Department of Finance and those who needed to know within our government would have known about our actions in advance of that date.
  18. answered
    EthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer opens with an explicit 'no' to the exact question asked.Mr. Speaker, the answer is no.
  19. partly answered
    EthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer clarifies the prior statement about the sale date but does not fully resolve the timing question.I do not know on what exact date those shares were sold.
  20. deflected
    EthicsMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the share-sale question and instead criticizes the opposition for not asking about matters important to Canadians.I do hope that we will get to some questions that matter to Canadians.
  21. deflected
    EthicsMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the dinner-conversation and timing allegations and instead challenges the opposition to make accusations outside the House.If the members want to make an accusation, they should make it very clearly.
  22. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Carolyn Bennett (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains the legislative process but does not address why further consultations are needed if rights are already clear.our government is committed to working with first nations, parliamentarians, impacted individuals, and experts to ensure that all sex-based discrimination is eliminated from registration under the Indian Act.
  23. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Carolyn Bennett (Liberal). substantive question.The answer describes what the bill remedies but does not explicitly confirm whether all inequalities are eliminated.Bill S-3 , as passed by the House of Commons, remedied all known sex-based discrimination with respect to registration since the Indian registry was created in 1951.
  24. deflected
    EthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the father's share sale and instead invites the member to repeat accusations outside the House.If my colleague really has a question, if he wants to say something, he should say it clearly here in the House.
  25. deflected
    EthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer challenges the asker to make accusations rather than confirming or denying the specific share sale.If he wants to accuse me of something, then he should go ahead and do it.
  26. deflected
    EthicsMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the sale but immediately pivots to unrelated economic achievements and dismisses the question.I do hope we will get to some questions that matter to Canadians, about how the economy is doing.
  27. deflected
    EthicsMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the sale direction but shifts focus to platform results and poverty reduction instead of addressing the timing.This is the sort of work that really matters to Canadians.
  28. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Kennedy Stewart (NDP) asked Ms. Kim Rudd (Liberal). substantive question.The answer describes government support for the pipeline but avoids addressing the request to withdraw the letter or respect provincial rights.The government has taken an important step to ensure that, if a natural resource project is approved, it proceeds in a timely fashion and continues to generate economic—
  29. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer offers further discussion but does not commit to or address proclaiming the commemorative day.it would be a pleasure for me to have the chance to sit down with my colleague in further discussion regarding this very important issue.
  30. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer emphasizes confidentiality and platform promises but does not confirm possession of the list on the sale date.we all keep cabinet confidences here.
  31. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates the sale direction and confidentiality but avoids confirming a draft copy at the time of sale.Of course, we keep that careful legislation confidential until it is actually announced, and we did that.
  32. misdirected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer demands the asker make a specific accusation rather than addressing the trust question put to the Prime Minister.if there is something the member for Carleton would like to say, he should specifically say it, and if he is making a particular accusation, he should say it.
  33. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses working with the commissioner and selling shares but does not specify to whom directions were given or the details.What I can say is that I will continue to work with the commissioner.
  34. answered
    Media IndustryMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The minister explains the government's support for journalism and plans for digital transition.we will continue to support local media and we are also going to help local media that are not yet online, meaning those still available in print form, to transition to the digital world since that is how more and more people are accessing the news.
  35. answered
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The minister directly answers no to the question about discussing timing or price.
  36. deflected
    EthicsMr. Luc Thériault (Bloc) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the claim and pivots to criticizing opposition fundraising practices.Contrast that with the opposition parties that continue to organize their fundraising events in secret, barring journalists, and so much more.
  37. deflected
    EthicsMr. Luc Thériault (Bloc) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the claim and pivots to criticizing opposition fundraising practices.Contrast that with the opposition parties who continue to organize their fundraising events in secret, barring journalists, and hiding details about who is attending their closed-door events.
  38. answered
    Business of the HouseMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). substantive question.The deputy House leader provides a detailed list of upcoming business.today we will continue the debate on Bill S-3 , indigenous registration.