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Tuesday, November 28, 2017 · sitting No. 240
Liberals move time allocation on budget bill as ethics questions mount
The House devoted most of its sitting to government orders on Bill C-63. Liberal House leader Bardish Chagger moved a motion that would allot one further sitting day to report stage and one day to third reading of the second budget implementation act. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said the motion would rush the bill without adequate debate on its substance or the conduct of Finance Minister Bill Morneau. New Democrat MP Peter Julian said the government had brought in closure 25 per cent more often than the previous Conservative government.
Question period was dominated by Conservative questions on the ethics record of Finance Minister Bill Morneau. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer asked whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau still had confidence in the minister after several investigations by the Ethics Commissioner. The Prime Minister replied that the minister had lowered taxes for the middle class and delivered the Canada child benefit.
New Democrat MP Guy Caron said the NDP had asked the Ethics Commissioner to open a fourth investigation involving the minister or the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister said the government was focused on managing a growing economy rather than on personal attacks.
Decided that day
- Concurrence at report stage of Bill C-63 passed
- Time allocation for a bill approved
- Bill S-218 advanced in first chamber
- Bill C-66 introduced
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Public Safety
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said the government was focused on reintegration services for returning ISIS fighters rather than on putting them in jail. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau replied that the government uses enforcement and surveillance tools as well as methods to deprogram people who want to harm society.
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New Democrat MP Don Davies said the government should declare the opioid crisis a national public health emergency after a 40 per cent increase in deaths in Alberta. Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor replied that formal declarations would not provide additional tools.
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New Democrat MP Irene Mathyssen said there is no way to assess whether programs to prioritize the hiring of veterans are working. Veterans Affairs Minister Seamus O'Regan said officials are working to identify those affected by the Phoenix pay system.
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Conservative MP Pat Kelly said the Canada Revenue Agency is auditing single mothers and withholding child benefits until they provide expensive separation agreements. National Revenue Minister Diane Lebouthillier replied that the CRA would not require beneficiaries to communicate with an abusive spouse.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau delivered an apology for the historical persecution of LGBTQ2 Canadians in the public service and military. Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer joined in acknowledging the injustice and the failure to protect basic rights.
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- partly answeredPublic SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer acknowledges enforcement tools but does not address the specific claim of prioritizing reintegration over jail.
Yes, we have enforcement, surveillance, and national security tools that we use to a significant degree, but we also have methods of de-emphasizing or deprogramming people who want to harm our society
- misdirectedPublic SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's past campaign instead of addressing the question on security measures for ISIS fighters.
the Conservative Party learned nothing from the last election and the lessons Canadians taught them.
- deflectedPublic SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer is cut off and provides no response to the question about jailing ISIS fighters.
- misdirectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists the finance minister's achievements but does not state whether the Prime Minister still has confidence in him.
He continues to focus on the things that matter to Canadians and he has our full confidence.
- deflectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer criticizes personal attacks and questions repeating them outside the House rather than addressing the finance minister's ethics issues.
A handy way of evaluating if those personal attacks are baseless or groundless is whether the members opposite are willing to repeat them outside this House where there is no parliamentary privilege.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer claims opposition lacks reasons to criticize and pivots to personal attacks instead of addressing the ethics investigation.
They feel they need to make personal attacks, and that is truly unfortunate for our democracy, our government, and our country.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer claims transparency and cooperation with the Ethics Commissioner but does not address the specific mandate letter quote or past statements.
We will continue to work with the Ethics Commissioner.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the NDP's election performance and restates tax policy instead of addressing the insider trading question on the finance minister.
It was a pretty bad one for them.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer diverts to the Ethics Commissioner's role without addressing the specific question on conflict of interest.
The Ethics Commissioner exists above the back-and-forth of Parliament to ensure that people are following the rules and that mistakes are not made.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer changes the subject to unrelated economic statistics instead of identifying who sold the shares.
For example, real GDP growth was 1.6% during the 10 years they were in power.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to campaign promises and tax policy without naming the seller of the shares.
Our plan to do that was the worst-kept secret in town, because it was one of our campaign promises, and we keep our promises.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer insists the Ethics Commissioner is responsible but does not identify who sold the shares.
It is up to the Ethics Commissioner, who acts impartially and with integrity.
- partly answeredEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states the minister sold his shares and placed assets in a blind trust but does not confirm the specific November 30 sale.
He announced that he had sold all of his shares in Morneau Shepell and that he was putting all of his assets in a blind trust
- misdirectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for not repeating allegations outside the House rather than addressing whether the minister discussed sale dates.
I noticed that he was very careful not to repeat any of the allegations he is making here outside this chamber.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer returns to the Ethics Commissioner without confirming any discussion of sale dates with her.
I can assure everyone that the Minister of Finance has always worked with the Ethics Commissioner.
- deflectedMedia IndustryMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer expresses disappointment and notes business decisions but does not say what the minister will tell her colleague about the shutdown.
These are cynical business decisions that were taken by Postmedia and Torstar, and it is up to these companies to explain them.
- deflectedMedia IndustryMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer restates existing funding without addressing calls for new measures amid closures.
The government will continue to support local media. We are investing $75 million a year and will continue to do so.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.Answer avoids naming the seller and pivots to the Ethics Commissioner instead of answering directly.
the Minister of Finance has always been transparent with the Ethics Commissioner, who is responsible for safeguarding the integrity of Parliament.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats prior statements about the blind trust without confirming the sale date or person.
He announced that he was putting all his assets in a blind trust and that he was divesting himself of his remaining shares in Morneau Shepell.
- deflectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the yes/no question on the 2015 sale by redirecting to the Ethics Commissioner.
The Minister of Finance has always worked with the Ethics Commissioner and will continue to do so.
- deflectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.Answer again evades identifying the seller and defaults to Ethics Commissioner talking points.
It is with the Ethics Commissioner that the Minister of Finance has always been fully transparent by giving her his full co-operation to ensure that the rules are followed.
- partly answeredHealthMs. Brigitte Sansoucy (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.Answer outlines existing actions and future plans but does not address declaring a national emergency.
We have taken several emergency measures on this issue, including significant federal investments, a new law, and expedited regulatory action.
- answeredHealthMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly explains why a formal emergency declaration is not pursued and outlines ongoing work.
Formal declarations of an emergency will not provide us with any additional tools or extra measures to provide to the opioid crisis.
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.Answer refuses to confirm the seller's identity and pivots exclusively to the Ethics Commissioner.
the Minister of Finance has always worked with the Ethics Commissioner.
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the yes/no question by restating general transparency claims instead of addressing the specific inquiry about informing the commissioner.
the Minister of Finance has always been transparent in his dealings with the Ethics Commissioner by following her recommendations
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to praising tax measures and attacking the prior government rather than identifying who sold the shares.
I do appreciate the opportunity to talk about the tax measures that were announced in December 2015
- deflectedEthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.The response ignores the direct demand for who sold the shares and instead promotes unrelated tax policy achievements.
What is this tax measure? It is to raise taxes for the wealthiest 1% and to cut them for 9 million Canadians
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the problem and outlines steps for veterans affected by Phoenix but does not provide a timeline or fix for assessing veteran hiring programs.
We are doing our level best to identify those who have been affected
- misdirectedPublic Services and ProcurementMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer blames the previous government for the Phoenix issues instead of addressing how the current government will fix the project management failures.
When the previous government irresponsibly treated this project as a cost-cutting measure instead of the complex, enterprise-wide business transformation that it was
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms dedication to benefits but does not address specific CRA audit practices or withholding of child benefits for single mothers.
I am dedicated to ensuring that Canadians, especially the most vulnerable, get the benefits they are entitled to
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reassures on not requiring contact with abusive spouses but does not commit to changing CRA instructions or practices for single mothers.
I can assure my colleague that the CRA does not withhold the Canada child benefit for want of a spouse's signature
- deflectedGovernment Services and ProcurementSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer describes the overall naval modernization strategy without addressing the specific contract award for the Obélix or delivery timelines.
the navy is in the midst of the most comprehensive fleet modernization since peacetime in history
- partly answeredCanadian HeritageMrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer extends access time and highlights legacy but avoids direct cost justification.
This will be a great legacy project, a first in front of Parliament Hill.
- partly answeredHousingMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer references prior funding but does not address revising the aggregate standard.
He will remember that in the Trudeau government's first budget we included $30 million for the victims, $10 million a year—
- deflectedCanadian HeritageMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats legacy talking points and ignores comparison to multiple rinks or egocentrism claim.
This great legacy project, a skating rink in front of Parliament, is a first and the skating rink will be donated to a community in need, as my colleague said.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes past investments and discussions but does not commit to new action on the 800 jobs.
Since 2011, the government has invested over $7 billion in the Canadian shipbuilding industry, including $717 million in Quebec, as part of the national shipbuilding strategy.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Michel Boudrias (Bloc) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains Seaspan timeline and thanks Davie for interim work without addressing awarding new contracts to Davie.
Because of some of the delays, the interim ship was required, and we thank Davie for its tremendous work in filling this interim capability gap.