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Thursday, November 23, 2017 · sitting No. 237
Conservatives press finance minister on asset disclosure in supply day debate
The House devoted most of its sitting to a Conservative opposition motion that calls on Finance Minister Bill Morneau to disclose all assets held in his private companies and trusts since taking office. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre moved the motion and argued that public scrutiny is required to determine whether the minister's financial interests have conflicted with his duties. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux replied that the minister has followed all rules set by the Ethics Commissioner and that the opposition attacks ignore his record on middle-class initiatives.
Question period featured repeated exchanges over tax evasion and ethics. Conservative MP Lisa Raitt and Conservative MP Gérard Deltell pressed National Revenue Minister Diane Lebouthillier on Liberal fundraiser Stephen Bronfman and alleged offshore holdings, while the minister said the Canada Revenue Agency treats all cases equally and cannot comment on individuals. NDP MP Guy Caron asked whether Bronfman had misled the prime minister or the prime minister had misled the House.
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Housing
NDP MP Rachel Blaney asked why Liberals voted against her right-to-housing bill after announcing their national strategy, and Liberal MP Adam Vaughan said the $40-billion plan uses a human-rights approach praised by the United Nations.
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NDP MP Tracey Ramsey warned that China lacks press freedom and collective-bargaining rights, and International Trade Minister François-Philippe Champagne replied that engagement must be responsible and values-based.
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NDP MP Matthew Dubé called for updated legislation after a CBC demonstration of cellphone hacking, and Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said a cyber review is under way and new initiatives will follow.
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Bloc Québécois MP Luc Thériault said Transport Minister Marc Garneau is allowing small knives on planes to pander to his base, and Garneau replied that the decision follows expert review and matches rules in several other countries.
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- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses general CRA audits and investments without addressing the specific assurances given by Bronfman to the Prime Minister.
The Canada Revenue Agency uses information from lists shared by participating BEPS countries.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing past Conservative actions on tax evasion instead of confirming any investigation into Bronfman.
It is funny to hear Conservatives talk about the importance of fighting tax evasion when a former national revenue minister, Mr. Blackburn, publicly stated that it was not a priority for the Conservative government.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer affirms general commitment to tax fairness and no one being above the law but does not address whether the Prime Minister will allow an investigation into Bronfman.
I can assure my colleagues opposite and all Canadians that nobody is above the law.
- deflectedMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer states the minister cannot comment on specific cases due to law and highlights government investments without addressing the Prime Minister's comments on Bronfman.
I cannot comment on specific cases.
- partly answeredMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer states that all cases are treated the same and no one is above the law, which partly addresses the call for scrutiny but avoids specifics on Bronfman.
The agency receives 30 million returns every year.
- deflectedMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights international cooperation and CRA audits without addressing the multiple-choice question about lying or misleading regarding Bronfman.
Co-operation between revenue authorities, including the exchange of tax information, is an essential tool for maintaining the integrity of Canada's tax base.
- deflectedMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer asserts no one is above the law and no interference with investigations but does not engage with the facts presented about Bronfman or the double standard claim.
no one is above the law and no one is interfering with the CRA's investigations.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Matthew Dubé (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the request for government leadership on telecom security by noting CSE's work with providers and willingness to provide further encouragement.
It, indeed, has worked very closely with industry, including the service providers, to make sure they have the advice and the knowledge they need to correct the problem and to ensure the privacy of Canadians is secure.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Matthew Dubé (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly confirms the requested review work is underway with specific upcoming initiatives.
indeed, that work is already under way.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses compliance steps but avoids the specific demand to disclose personal finances.
The Minister of Finance did that.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to general CRA efforts instead of addressing the specific Bronfman connection question.
The CRA uses the information it receives through lists shared by its international partners as part of the BEPS project.
- misdirectedCanada Revenue AgencyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as ridiculous and pivots to broad statements rather than addressing the Prime Minister's satisfaction.
I repeat, these accusations are utterly ridiculous.
- misdirectedCanada Revenue AgencyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the prior government's record instead of addressing the minister's prejudgment of the investigation.
former national revenue minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn publicly admitted that this was not a priority for the former Conservative government.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses to comment on specific cases rather than addressing the appropriateness of exonerating before investigation.
my colleague opposite knows perfectly well that I cannot comment on any case involving the 30 million people and companies that file tax returns.
- answeredCanada Revenue AgencyPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly provides the requested assurance that no interference will occur.
no one, and I mean no one, will interfere with the audits and investigations carried out by the CRA.
- deflectedHousingMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Mr. Adam Vaughan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the new strategy and quotes an NDP figure instead of explaining the vote against the right-to-housing bill.
That was Joe Cressy, the NDP candidate I defeated to get into this place.
- deflectedHousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Mr. Adam Vaughan (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores asymmetry request and pivots to listing programs while mocking the asker.
The NDP confuses me. The first question was that we are going too slowly, and now they say we are going too fast.
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.Answer points to Ethics Commissioner and lists government achievements instead of addressing disclosure request.
Ever since he first arrived here in Ottawa, the Minister of Finance has always worked with the Ethics Commissioner and presented his situation.
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.Answer again cites Ethics Commissioner and repeats prior actions without committing to full asset disclosure.
The finance minister has always worked with the Ethics Commissioner to ensure that he complies with the rules governing the House and her recommendations
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the prior government's record rather than addressing the conflict-of-interest question.
what the finance minister has not done is to mismanage the economy the way they mismanaged it for 10 years.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to economic growth praise and attacks opposition instead of responding to asset disclosure demand.
what was impossible for them for 10 years was to grow this economy.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges concerns and states intent to engage responsibly but does not explain why talks proceed despite listed issues.
Canadians expect us to engage in talks with China responsibly and in full knowledge of the facts.
- deflectedInternational TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats general trade principles and avoids specific replies on human rights, IP, or steel dumping.
Our government believes in a rules-based, progressive, and strategic trade agenda throughout the Asia-Pacific that helps create new opportunities for Canadians across this country.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly defends the accuracy of the cited statistics and details ongoing monitoring measures.
indeed, the statistics that I gave were accurate.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the accuracy claim without addressing demands for current monitoring details.
The numbers today remain essentially the same as they were two years ago.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to general objectives instead of confirming current surveillance numbers or new entrants.
the objective of the Government of Canada with respect to extremist travellers is to surveil them and contain them to ensure that they do not harm more people, and indeed—
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms the number is unchanged but adds an unrelated attack on prior cuts.
the fact of the matter is the number released by CSIS two years ago was in the order of 60, and it has confirmed that number remains essentially the same today.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Brigitte Sansoucy (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general EI improvements without addressing the spring gap or promised help for seasonal workers.
The series of changes that we have put into place to improve the EI program are benefiting Canadians across the country.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights funding programs instead of confirming enforcement action against the mats.
In fact, we are investing record amounts of money in marine and ocean science.
- misdirectedInternational TradeErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks a former prime minister rather than addressing the negotiation plan or timeline.
Having said that, Stephen Harper has recently proposed a different approach, and so I would like to take this opportunity to ask my hon. colleague to let his former boss know that this government's view is that capitulation is not a negotiating strategy.
- partly answeredInternational TradeErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states the negotiating position but avoids specifics on softwood, auto, or agriculture priorities.
We will defend and maintain those elements of NAFTA that Canadians know are essential to our national interest.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes technical progress but does not outline concrete steps to protect jobs.
We made some reasonable progress on some of the more technical chapters at the latest round, but significant differences remain.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates the shipbuilding strategy without addressing the call for immediate commissioning of a second ship.
The strategy includes a $2-billion small-ship construction program for competitive procurement among Davie and other Canadian shipyards other than the yards selected to build large vessels.
- partly answeredOfficial LanguagesMr. François Choquette (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the obligation but only promises to forward the question rather than outlining concrete steps.
I will draw his question to the attention of the president of the CBSA.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Mr. Joël Lightbound (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights unaffected corporations and fairness goals but does not address releasing the requested economic analysis or job impacts.
Our objective has always been to improve tax fairness.
- answeredAir TransportationMr. Luc Thériault (Bloc) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the premise by citing expert review and international alignment on the knife policy.
That is why our government's security experts carefully examined the issue of small knives.
- answeredAir TransportationMr. Luc Thériault (Bloc) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explicitly denies any link to a particular group and ties the decision to periodic safety review.
It has nothing to do with the interests of a particular group.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer provides a clear schedule of upcoming House business for the requested period.
Tomorrow, we will have the second and last day of debate at third reading stage of Bill C-45 on cannabis.