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Monday, October 23, 2017 · sitting No. 220
NDP motion accuses finance minister of ethics breach over Morneau Shepell stake
Government orders on a supply-day motion consumed nearly half the sitting as New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen moved that the House condemn Finance Minister Bill Morneau for misleading Canadians about placing his Morneau Shepell shares in a blind trust, using a loophole in the Conflict of Interest Act to shelter them instead, and introducing Bill C-27 in a manner expected to profit the company and the minister. Conservative MP Dan Albas and NDP MP Guy Caron joined the debate, pressing the point that the minister stood to gain millions from the legislation.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the same matter. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked whether the minister had received written permission from the Ethics Commissioner before sponsoring Bill C-27. Minister Morneau replied that the government would stay focused on economic growth and job creation rather than his personal finances.
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Department of Public Works and Government Services Act
Liberal MP Lloyd Longfield said Bill C-344 would connect social and economic benefits in federal construction projects. Conservative MP John Barlow warned the measure would hinder small and medium-sized firms.
Read the exchangeEthics
Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre charged that the government was stripping the disability tax credit from type-1 diabetes patients. Revenue Minister Diane Lebouthillier said the Canada Revenue Agency is hiring nurses to assess applications.
Read the exchangePensions
NDP MP Scott Duvall said the minister still owns shares in Morneau Shepell and should abandon Bill C-27 to protect workers' pensions. Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains replied that pension funds are held in trust and the government is monitoring the CCAA process.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
NDP MP Christine Moore noted the lower conviction rate for sexual assault in the military justice system. Defence Minister Harjit S. Sajjan said inappropriate behaviour will not be tolerated and investigators now receive better training.
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- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses diabetes concerns with personal anecdote and CRA changes but ignores the ethics accusation about the minister's loophole.
The CRA is hiring nurses to assess DTC applications in the first step of the process.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer pivots entirely to economic growth and jobs instead of addressing permission from the Ethics Commissioner.
I am going to continue to focus on the finances of Canadians and of Canadian families.
- deflectedEthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to CPP enhancements and seniors' benefits while avoiding the question on written permission for Bill C-27.
We enhanced the Canada pension plan, importantly for future generations.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.Answer covers diabetes advocacy and CRA hiring but sidesteps the double-standard accusation against the minister.
I have asked the agency to improve its data collection process for the disability tax credit.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer again emphasizes economic growth and jobs rather than responding to the Ethics Commissioner permission query.
We currently have the highest economic growth rate in a decade.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer highlights family benefits and growth instead of addressing the blind trust or ethical standards question.
In just two years, we have achieved the highest levels of growth in the G7.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer claims high integrity standards but redirects to middle-class investments without admitting or addressing the blind trust issue.
Investing in middle-class Canadians helps them to have more money in their pockets
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer focuses on the upcoming economic update and past promises while evading the conflict of interest admission.
What we have seen is that in fact Canadian families are better off and our economy is better off
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific financial question and pivots to general Canadian economic policy.
I know that the opposition wants to talk about my finances. I want to talk about Canadians' finances.
- deflectedEthicsMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the recusal question entirely by shifting to family benefits and economic growth.
while the opposition obsesses about my personal finances, I am going to continue to focus on what is going on for Canadians.
- deflectedEthicsMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists government retirement programs instead of addressing the recusal or conflict issue.
maybe I can provide some examples for Canadians: the example of old age security, making sure that people can get their old age security at age 65;
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer redirects to retirement security improvements and ignores the ethics commissioner contact question.
the opposition keeps talking about my finances, but I will continue to focus on retirement security for Canadians.
- deflectedEthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer claims adherence to standards without confirming recusal or addressing the specific bill discussions.
I know that it is very important for members of the House to avoid conflicts of interest. That is exactly what I have done.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses past government actions on pensions rather than providing written approval from the Ethics Commissioner.
I have been focused on trying to improve the retirement system in Canada for a long time.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes integrity and economic gains without confirming any written approval or addressing the legislation benefit claim.
I will continue to work up to the highest standards of integrity of this House.
- misdirectedPensionsMr. Scott Duvall (NDP) asked Navdeep Bains (Liberal). substantive question.The answer, given by a different minister, addresses Sears workers' assistance instead of the conflict of interest or Bill C-27.
we have risen on this situation several times in the House and expressed our deep concern for the Sears workers, their families, and the many communities that have been impacted.
- partly answeredPensionsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Navdeep Bains (Liberal). loaded question.Addresses pension security and monitoring but ignores the conflict-of-interest accusation and law-change request.
We are monitoring the situation that is before the courts under the CCAA process, and we will continue to work with the workers, their families, and the many communities that are being impacted.
- deflectedEthicsMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the recusal question entirely and pivots to contrasting economic philosophies.
The members opposite had an idea for a decade that we could have trickle-down economics and maybe just wait for the benefits.
- deflectedEthicsMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Avoids answering the recusal question and shifts to general tax-system improvements.
We will continue to improve our tax system to ensure that it is fair and works the way it is supposed to.
- misdirectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Dismisses the question by attacking the opposition's focus instead of addressing recusal.
while the members opposite obsess about my personal situation, I am going to remain resolutely focused on what we were elected to do
- misdirectedEthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Again evades the recusal question by redirecting to economic achievements and attacking the opposition.
as often as the members opposite want to focus on my personal situation, I am going to come back to them and tell them how well the economy is doing for Canadians
- answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.Directly addresses the conviction-rate disparity and victim-support concerns with concrete actions taken.
Our investigators now have better training. We will provide more support to victims.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.Acknowledges the problem and commits to cultural change but does not address the specific conviction-rate gap or concrete next steps.
There is still work to be done, and we remain committed to ensuring the military's culture reflects dignity for all.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the request to meet the commissioner and disclose holdings, pivoting instead to economic results.
while the opposition focuses on my finances, I am going to focus on the finances of Canadians
- deflectedEthicsMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to economic programs instead of addressing disclosure of investments.
I will continue to live up to the highest standards of integrity.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to economic growth rather than addressing the numbered companies or trust claims.
as I have said, while the members opposite may obsess over my personal situation, I think what Canadians expect us to do is to continue to focus on their situation.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids disclosure by emphasizing economic updates and confidence instead.
we are going to be able to announce tomorrow a very positive economic update.
- partly answeredImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the visa policy assessment process and engagement with Ukraine but does not commit to visa-free access.
Our evaluation concludes that Ukraine, just like any other country, must secure travel documents, manage its borders effectively, and co-operate well internationally on migration and security matters.
- answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Pierre-Luc Dusseault (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly acknowledges the hardship and states resolving Phoenix issues is a priority.
Resolving this as quickly as possible is our priority.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses access to the disability tax credit but does not directly respond to the premise about fair share or the minister.
our government is committed to ensuring that all Canadians can access the credits and benefits to which they are entitled.
- partly answeredTaxationSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses CRA hiring for assessments but sidesteps the accusation regarding diabetic children and the minister.
The CRA is currently hiring nurses to assess disability tax credit applications in the first step of the process.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Dean Allison (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). loaded question.The answer clarifies that the law and interpretation have not changed but does not address the targeting claim.
I would remind the House that it was the Conservatives who cut services at the Canada Revenue Agency and that we are currently hiring nurses to assess these tax credit applications in the first step of the process.
- deflectedTaxationMrs. Karen Vecchio (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes unrelated tax cuts and benefits instead of addressing the specific tax-increase claims.
We have lowered taxes on middle-class Canadians: $540 per family, and $330 per individual.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends current actions and criticizes the prior government without addressing the polluter-pays or contract-award questions.
We are doing what it takes to ensure that the permanent removal of the Kathryn Spirit is done safely and effectively, something that the previous government did not do.
- deflectedEthicsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates ethical intentions without answering the timeline or Ethics Commissioner notice questions.
I am pleased to say that I want to live up to the high standards the Prime Minister has set for all of our cabinet on ethical behaviour, and that is what I will continue to do.
- partly answeredIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Rhéal Fortin (Bloc) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms commitment to the Charter but does not confirm recognition of Quebec jurisdiction over religious neutrality.
we know that diversity is our strength, which is why Canadians expect us to stand up for the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
- deflectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Rhéal Fortin (Bloc) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the Charter commitment without addressing the promise not to use federal funds to challenge Bill 62.
we know that in this country, diversity is our strength. That is why we honour the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and will always defend it.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms taking the mandate seriously but does not confirm whether lost protections will be restored.
I want to reassure my colleague that I take my mandate extremely seriously with respect to the navigable waters act.