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Wednesday, September 27, 2017 · sitting No. 207

Liberals defend tax changes amid Conservative attacks on small business

Question period was dominated by exchanges over the government's proposed tax changes for small businesses and professionals. Conservative leader Andrew Scheer said experts had confirmed the measures would stall innovation and hurt the middle class while shielding the Prime Minister's family fortune. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau replied that the rules inherited from the Conservatives favour the wealthy and that the government is acting to make the system fair.

The House spent the next largest block of time on second reading of Bill C-55 to amend the Oceans Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act. Fisheries Minister Dominic LeBlanc said the bill would help meet marine conservation targets. Conservative MP Todd Doherty warned that aggressive timelines were overriding proper consultation with provinces and territories.

Decided that day

  • Motion M-128 on Venezuela passed
  • Amendment to M-128 passed
  • Bill C-338 defeated at second reading
  • Bill C-21 passed second reading
  • Bill C-58 passed second reading
  • Bill S-228 advanced in first chamber

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Who held the floor · 2017-09-27

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 48%, opposition 52% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:00Last speech 19:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 40 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
63Bills Move While Answers WanderThe House spent most of its time on taxation and oceans legislation and passed several private members' motions and bills at second reading. Question period produced few direct answers, yet no points of order disrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Aerospace Industry

NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the government to act against U.S. tariffs on Bombardier aircraft that threaten thousands of Canadian jobs. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland had raised the issue in NAFTA talks.

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Access to Information

Thomas Mulcair said an audit showed the government's performance on access requests was worse than under the Harper government. Justin Trudeau replied that the government is making the most significant changes to the Access to Information Act since 1983.

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The Environment

Thomas Mulcair asked whether emissions would fall in the next two years to meet Paris commitments. Justin Trudeau said the government would protect the environment and grow the economy together through carbon pricing and other measures.

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Indigenous Affairs

Thomas Mulcair accused the government of fighting first nations children in court despite three Human Rights Tribunal orders. Justin Trudeau said the government had increased funding and was separating Indigenous Services from Crown-Indigenous Relations to improve outcomes.

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Steel Industry

NDP MP Tracey Ramsey said Chinese dumping was costing jobs at plants such as Atlas Tube in her riding. Parliamentary Secretary Pam Goldsmith-Jones said Canada already has trade remedies on 15 steel products from 23 countries including China.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    Canadian HeritageAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms the memorial's importance and thanks those involved as requested.I want to congratulate all members of the House from all parties who came together to make sure that this monument got built.
  2. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates the government's tax fairness position without addressing the specific claims about business harm or the PM's fortune.It is not fair that wealthy Canadians are able to incorporate so they can pay lower tax rates than middle-class Canadians.
  3. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to inherited rules and past Liberal actions instead of addressing the call to apologize or halt the tax changes.The problem is that the rules favour wealthier Canadians over the middle class.
  4. misdirected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' past record and motives rather than responding to the listed tax measures.Canadians have seen this movie before.
  5. misdirected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to trade opportunities with China instead of addressing the PBO quote or meetings with billionaires.I was pleased to talk on Monday about the opportunities that small businesses across this country have to sell to the growing market in China.
  6. answered
    Aerospace IndustryThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer specifies the concrete action taken that day regarding the tariffs and jobs.I am pleased to inform the House that our Minister of Foreign Affairs brought up this issue directly with trade representative Lighthizer today during the NAFTA negotiations.
  7. partly answered
    Aerospace IndustryThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer reaffirms general defense of jobs but offers no new timeline or specific steps beyond the prior response.we stand up every day to defend jobs here in Canada, and we will continue to do so.
  8. deflected
    Access to InformationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists planned reforms instead of assigning a grade or addressing the commissioner's disappointment.we continue to raise the bar on openness and transparency by bringing forward the most significant changes to access to information since 1983.
  9. deflected
    Access to InformationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes new measures without addressing the audit findings or response rates mentioned in the question.we are enhancing government openness and transparency by bringing in the most significant changes to the Access to Information Act since 1983.
  10. deflected
    TaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer explains the government's tax fairness approach but ignores the call for Liberal members to oppose the Prime Minister.That is why Canadians asked our government to fix the system, to make it fairer and more equitable, by raising taxes on the wealthy and lowering them on the middle class.
  11. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly counters the tax impact claim with data on corporations holding most investment assets.Of those 1.8 million, 30,000 hold 80% of the net investment.
  12. deflected
    TaxationCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to small business owners rather than addressing the Prime Minister's personal investments or the House leader quote.Canadians watch these Conservatives stay focused on me, while I stay focused on Canadians.
  13. misdirected
    TaxationCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as personal attacks without engaging the policy or hypocrisy claims.Again, Mr. Speaker, we see that the Conservative Party has one approach: personal attacks.
  14. deflected
    TaxationMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates focus on the 2% of corporations holding most passive investment but avoids the hypocrisy or family fortune questions.I am going to stay focused on the fact that 80% of the money in passive investment in private corporations across this country is held by less than 2% of those private corporations.
  15. deflected
    TaxationMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer labels the question as scaremongering and restates the fairness commitment without confirming any impact on the Prime Minister's fortune.what we see from these Conservatives are the politics of fear, anxiety, insecurity, and scaremongering.
  16. answered
    TaxationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses tax havens by citing nearly $1 billion invested to counter evasion and avoidance.In the past two budgets, we invested nearly $1 billion to help the Canada Revenue Agency counter tax evasion and tax avoidance.
  17. deflected
    TaxationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer sidesteps the specific platform commitments on tax havens and stock options by pivoting to general CRA funding and NDP impatience.I can understand the NDP members' impatience. They always seem to be impatient about everything.
  18. misdirected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the Conservatives for fabricating numbers instead of addressing the fairness comparison between small business and the PM's pension.it is always a question whether the Conservatives actually believe what they are saying or they just choose to make it up as they go along
  19. deflected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer changes subject to the Canada child benefit rather than explaining the revenue and tax discrepancies cited.if the members opposite want to talk about how Canadian families are doing, they need to acknowledge the Canada child benefit, which the Fraser Institute completely overlooked.
  20. misdirected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question outright without engaging the tax rate comparison or nannies claim.one should not be able to stand in the House and just make things up.
  21. deflected
    The EnvironmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer restates the general economic-environmental balance instead of promising a yes-or-no reduction in emissions over two years.what Canadians understand is that in order to grow a strong economy we need to protect the environment, and in order to protect the environment we need to grow the economy.
  22. deflected
    The EnvironmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats the balanced-plan talking point and criticizes both opposition parties without committing to GHG reductions.We are moving forward with a responsible plan that acknowledges our commitments under the Paris agreement as well as our responsibilities towards our children's future
  23. deflected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer avoids the double-tax disparity between small businesses and multinationals by pivoting to corporate tax competitiveness.we are proud that Canada has competitive corporate tax rates. Indeed, it is part of our advantage.
  24. misdirected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the member's motives and past voting record instead of addressing the claimed market distortions favoring multinationals.the only distortions are the ones brought forward by the member opposite, who is trying to scare small business owners and torque an issue to defend the approach the Conservatives have always taken
  25. deflected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the specific claim about low-income business owners and cabinet shareholders by restating general fairness goals.However, it disturbs me that he still thinks that we are applying this to every single small business owner.
  26. deflected
    TaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the request for a specific clause or sentence and pivots to broad government promises.we are happy to engage in ongoing consultations with Canadians on the details of how to move forward in the best way so that we make the tax system fairer.
  27. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the tribunal rulings and court actions by highlighting spending allocations instead.That is why we allocated an unprecedented $8.4 billion in our first year and $5 billion the following year to provide services to indigenous youth
  28. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the question on fighting children in court and shifts to departmental restructuring.That is why we have taken the historic, concrete step toward moving beyond the Indian Act once and for all by separating Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada into two distinct departments
  29. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the payment controversy and disagreement with Blackstock by discussing future consultations.The minister's special representative has met with over 26 chiefs, experts, officials, advocates, and individuals with lived experience from coast to coast to coast to inform our commitment to first nations child welfare reform.
  30. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the specific spending criticism by emphasizing the value of consultation.That is why the special representative has met with 26 chiefs, experts, officials, advocates, and individuals with extraordinary lived experiences from coast to coast to coast to inform how we are moving forward on completely renewing child and family services for first nations communities.
  31. partly answered
    Government SpendingPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses only the Khadr settlement rationale while ignoring the other spending examples raised.The fact is that we should all be outraged, and remain outraged, that Canadian governments violated a Canadian's fundamental rights.
  32. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids committing to cancel the tax measures and instead restates support for small businesses and fairness.That is why we are moving forward to make our tax system fairer.
  33. deflected
    Canada PostThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the broken promise claim by shifting to general statements on service and future talks.We placed a moratorium on new community mailboxes.
  34. deflected
    TaxationPeter Van Loan (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to listing Liberal tax policies and benefits without engaging the historical critique of tax increases.A large part of that is because of the investments we made in our communities, in the middle class, and because we lowered taxes on the middle class and raised them on the wealthiest 1%.
  35. answered
    Indigenous AffairsHunter Tootoo (Independent) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly outlines specific funding and policy commitments to address the mental health and suicide issues raised.Budget 2017 also included $118.2 million over five years to supplement existing mental health programming for first nations and Inuit.