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Thursday, May 4, 2017 · sitting No. 170

Commons advances budget bill amid clashes over defence minister and parliamentary budget officer

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-44, the Budget Implementation Act, 2017, No. 1. Conservative MP Candice Bergen opened the debate by criticizing reductions in the parliamentary budget officer's powers and the infrastructure bank provisions. Liberal MP Arif Virani defended the bill's job-creation measures and the 1-cent-per-bottle excise-tax increase on wine, while NDP MP Tracey Ramsey warned the tax would harm Canadian wineries.

In Question Period the main exchanges centred on National Defence Minister Harjit S. Sajjan. Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose pressed the minister to resign over repeated claims that he was the architect of Operation Medusa, which she said had eroded trust among the troops. Sajjan replied that the government's priority remained delivering a fully funded defence policy.

Separate exchanges saw NDP MP Nathan Cullen and Bloc Québécois MP Alexandre Boulerice accuse the government of resuming cash-for-access fundraisers, while Conservative MP Gérard Deltell and NDP MP Murray Rankin attacked provisions in Bill C-44 that they said would curb the parliamentary budget officer's independence.

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Who held the floor · 2017-05-04

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 48%, opposition 52% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
33Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted nearly all its time to debate on the budget bill and other topics yet recorded no votes or bill progress. Five points of order and mostly deflected answers in question period added to the procedural friction.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Softwood Lumber

NDP MP Tracey Ramsey asked International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland whether she had walked away from an Obama-era deal in hopes of a better one with President Trump; Liberal MP Andrew Leslie said the previous Conservative government had let the agreement expire and left Canada facing its fifth dispute.

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Public Safety

NDP MP Murray Rankin demanded that Sajjan appear before the defence committee to answer questions on the Afghan-detainee file; Sajjan said the matter had already undergone Federal Court, Military Police Complaints Commission and internal reviews.

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Seniors

NDP MP Rachel Blaney noted that seniors now outnumber children and asked for a national seniors strategy; Liberal MP Jean-Yves Duclos cited the increase in the guaranteed income supplement that lifted 13,000 seniors, mostly women, out of poverty.

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Justice

Bloc Québécois MP Luc Thériault said Quebec still needed ten more judges to avoid Jordan-related releases; Liberal MP Marco Mendicino listed the 55 judges appointed nationally, four of them in Quebec, and noted that 60 per cent of new appointees are women.

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Rail Transportation

Liberal MP David de Burgh Graham asked when the Railway Safety Act review would begin; Parliamentary Secretary Karen McCrimmon said the review would start a year earlier than planned.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the accusation of embellishment and pivots to defence policy development.since becoming Minister of National Defence , we took an extensive defence policy into making sure that we looked after our Canadian Armed Forces.
  2. deflected
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the service record claim and focuses solely on future troop support via policy.my responsibility and our government's responsibility is to make sure that we look after our troops, to make sure they have all the appropriate tools and equipment.
  3. deflected
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses benefits but sidesteps the broken promise and denial of complaint rights.It is our government that dealt with the immediate inequity for the soldiers who lost their tax-free status in operation Impact.
  4. answered
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly clarifies the distinction between tax-free allowance and hardship benefits as requested.There is a difference between a tax-free allowance and the hardship allowance benefits.
  5. deflected
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer rebuts spending claims but ignores the demand for the minister to step aside.The Conservative rhetoric simply does not match up with the facts.
  6. deflected
    National DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer discusses the policy review without engaging the record comparison challenge.yesterday I gave a speech on the announcement of the defence policy review, where we are actually giving a non-partisan analysis
  7. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer notes upcoming legislation on fundraising transparency but does not address the specific event.our government is taking real action to be more open and transparent with Canadians.
  8. answered
    Government SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the PBO independence goal and openness to amendments.our government is committed to giving more independence to the parliamentary budget officer, and that is the primary objective of the bill recently introduced in the House of Commons.
  9. deflected
    Government SpendingMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates government commitment and openness to amendments without addressing the why or when questions.Our government welcomes suggestions on how to improve the bill and we are open to amendments to ensure we accomplish the objective of an effective and independent parliamentary budget office.
  10. deflected
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the resignation demand and pivots to defence policy review talking points.Last year we conducted a thorough defence policy review that had a very good analysis and gave us a good area for us to work on by making sure we have a fully costed, fully funded defence policy
  11. deflected
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the resignation call and repeats defence policy review points instead.We conducted an extremely thorough defence policy review in which all members of Parliament had an opportunity to take part.
  12. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the step-down demand by shifting to honouring service and the new defence policy.That is what our new defence policy for Canada will do.
  13. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to thanking the asker and discussing tax-free exemption instead of addressing the resignation demand.When I visited Kuwait for the first time, I was able to learn about the tax-free exemption and to learn directly about this issue, which we were able to immediately fix.
  14. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the firing demand by reiterating the defence policy review and funding model.We have conducted an extremely thorough defence policy review.
  15. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the replacement request and pivots to honouring caucus service and seeking advice.I am honoured and privileged to serve with so many members of our caucus who have had military service.
  16. partly answered
    Public SafetyMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the inquiry refusal by listing prior scrutiny mechanisms but does not explain the policy change.Canada's policies and procedures regarding detainees have already been subject to significant scrutiny, including an external review by the Federal Court, MPCC, and an internal review through multiple administrative investigations.
  17. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the yes/no question about appearing before the defence committee and redirects to other reviews and the ethics commissioner.I would be happy to make myself available to the Commissioner of Conflict of Interest and Ethics if she chooses to revisit this issue.
  18. partly answered
    FinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the PBO independence concern by restating government intent but does not engage with the accusation of undermining impartiality.Our plan is to strengthen the position of the parliamentary budget officer so that he can properly serve Parliament.
  19. deflected
    FinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer begins to restate the prior talking point on the PBO without addressing the personal attack on the minister.when it comes to the parliamentary budget officer, this government believes—
  20. deflected
    FinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer affirms intent for independence but sidesteps the constitutional point about Senate Speaker appointment by the Prime Minister.what is clear is that the member understands the intent of this government in that we believe the parliamentary budget officer should have independence so he can serve Parliament in the best way possible.
  21. deflected
    FinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats commitment to PBO independence and contrasts with the prior government while ignoring the platform-costing allegation.We believe that it should be an officer who reports to Parliament, unlike the previous government, which felt that he should report to the Library of Parliament.
  22. misdirected
    Softwood LumberMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Andrew Leslie (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the previous government's record instead of confirming whether the minister walked away from Obama negotiations.the previous Conservative government allowed the agreement to expire and did nothing to initiate negotiations.
  23. answered
    Public SafetyMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses working with provinces on flooding assistance and references future climate funding in the budget.We have indicated to all the provincial governments that we are on standby, ready to assist as required, and if a provincial government should make a request for assistance from the Government of Canada, we will respond very, very quickly.
  24. partly answered
    Softwood LumberMr. Todd Doherty (Conservative) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.The answer covers short-term worker support and long-term market diversification but does not detail a specific reassurance plan for the one million workers.We know that it is our first responsibility to help the workers who might be displaced, the producers whose companies are at risk, and the communities that will be affected.
  25. deflected
    Softwood LumberMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked Andrew Leslie (Liberal). loaded question.The answer opposes the tariffs but ignores the specific claim about rejecting an Obama-era deal.The coalition never offered conditions that Canada could accept.
  26. deflected
    TaxationEd Fast (Conservative) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to climate policy and investment without addressing the carbon tax impact on manufacturers.We are making polluters pay and at the same time attracting investment in our innovative industries.
  27. misdirected
    TaxationEd Fast (Conservative) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to defending travel and listing investments instead of responding to the manufacturing concerns raised.I was in California because I am as much a minister of economy as I am a minister of environment.
  28. deflected
    YouthMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer praises youth engagement broadly but does not address the specific transparency constraints mentioned.That is why the government took the initiative of having a youth council.
  29. partly answered
    SeniorsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights existing seniors measures but does not address the call for a national seniors strategy.Last year we put into place a measure which is taking 13,000 seniors out of poverty, 90% of whom are women
  30. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Mr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms consular support but does not address the claim of muting criticism to prioritize trade.Consular services are being provided to all citizens who are in need.
  31. deflected
    Ministerial ExpendituresMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Maryam Monsef (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government investments without addressing the specific office renovation versus shelter funding comparison.it is a great privilege to rise on this traditional territory and to acknowledge that the work of this feminist government is making a real impact in the lives of women and girls across the country
  32. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Maryam Monsef (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats shelter funding figures but avoids the pay equity and spending priority critique.I will take the opportunity to remind all colleagues that we invested close to $90 million in shelters
  33. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Kent Hehr (Liberal). substantive question.Commits to pension-for-life but provides no timeline for introduction.we are committed to a pension-for-life option for our veterans. We made that announcement this year, and those details will be forthcoming.
  34. partly answered
    ShippingMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Mrs. Karen McCrimmon (Liberal). substantive question.Confirms awareness and assessment but omits confirmation of formal investigation or timeline.We are currently assessing the factors that may have contributed to this incident.
  35. deflected
    International DevelopmentMr. Dean Allison (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.Focuses on monitoring actions rather than addressing the funding decision directly.ever since Canada restored funding to this UN agency for Palestinian refugees, we have been following it very closely, and Canada's presence at the table is making a difference.
  36. misdirected
    JusticeMr. Luc Thériault (Bloc) asked Mr. Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Highlights national totals and diversity instead of Quebec-specific vacancies.To date, the Minister of Justice has appointed 55 judges and 22 deputy judges across the country, including four new appointments in Quebec.
  37. misdirected
    JusticeMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Mr. Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Repeats national statistics and diversity metrics without addressing the 10 remaining vacancies.That includes appointing four new judges in Quebec. Our government is very proud that 60% of the appointments are women.
  38. answered
    Business of the HouseCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.Provides explicit schedule for the coming days and weeks.Tomorrow morning, we will consider the Senate amendments to Bill C-4 on unions, and then move on to Bill C-44 after question period.
  39. deflected
    PrivilegeMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). substantive question.Promises future review instead of engaging with the privilege issue raised.given what has been said, we would like to review Hansard and we will get back to you in a relatively short time span.