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Tuesday, May 2, 2017 · sitting No. 168
Liberals seek to curtail privilege debate on MP access
The House spent the largest portion of the day on a question of privilege concerning members' access to the parliamentary precinct. Government House leader Bardish Chagger moved closure on the debate, prompting opposition members to accuse the Liberals of attempting to limit discussion on a matter already referred to the procedure and house affairs committee.
Conservative MP Gérard Deltell and NDP MP Thomas Mulcair argued that the repeated closure motions threatened members' ability to represent constituents. Chagger replied that the government supports sending the issue to committee for study after seven days of debate.
In question period, Conservative leader Rona Ambrose pressed the prime minister on multiple occasions over the national defence minister's accounts of his Afghanistan service, while Justin Trudeau defended the minister's record and the government's international commitments.
Decided that day
- Debate on the privilege motion was limited
- Bill C-6 advanced in the second chamber
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Softwood Lumber
Conservative MP Denis Lebel asked what immediate measures the government would take to support forestry workers after countervailing duties took effect. International Trade minister Jim Carr said the government was working with provinces on short-term relief and longer-term market expansion.
Read the exchangeGovernment Accountability
NDP MP Thomas Mulcair accused the government of muzzling the parliamentary budget officer. Justin Trudeau replied that the changes would give the officer more resources and greater independence.
Read the exchangeGovernment Appointments
Conservative MP Tom Kmiec questioned the decision to appoint Stéphane Dion as ambassador to both the European Union and Germany after the EU rejected the dual role. Foreign Affairs minister Chrystia Freeland said Dion remained a strong choice for the post.
Read the exchangePhysician-Assisted Dying
NDP MP Murray Rankin criticized the appointment of Dr. Harvey Schipper, an opponent of the law, to chair a review panel. Health minister Jane Philpott said the Council of Canadian Academies selected panellists through an independent process to examine evidence.
Read the exchangeFinance
Conservative MP Gérard Deltell asked when the finance minister learned of the investigation into Home Capital Group. Bill Morneau said the government had monitored the situation and welcomed the market-based solution that emerged.
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- deflectedNational DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer praises the minister and government work without addressing the allegations of misleading Canadians.
I am proud of the service of our Minister of National Defence, whether it was as a police officer, as a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, or as our defence minister today.
- deflectedNational DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats praise for the minister without addressing the specific claims of fabrication or calls to remove him.
I am proud of the service of the Minister of National Defence , whether it was as a police officer, whether it was as a decorated member of the Canadian Armed Forces, or whether it is as our Minister of National Defence.
- deflectedNational DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights the minister's service record but ignores the question about prior knowledge of fabrications before appointment.
the work the Minister of National Defence has done to serve his community, to serve his country, and continues to do is to the honour of all Canadians.
- deflectedNational DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on the minister's exemplary service without engaging the demand that he step aside.
the exemplary and extraordinary service that has characterized the life of the Minister of National Defence is one that we can all be proud of, as he stands up every day for the men and women of the Canadian Forces
- deflectedNational DefenceRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to defending the government's Daesh strategy and funding without addressing removal of the minister.
when we took office we actually increased the effectiveness of Canada's role against Daesh by doing what we do best.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references the ethics commissioner but does not explain why an inquiry was blocked.
the minister spoke directly with the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner on this file.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer again cites the ethics commissioner without addressing the Prime Minister's role in blocking an inquiry.
As to the issue, the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner has repeatedly said that she is satisfied and is closing the file.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer praises the minister's record without addressing the contradiction on knowledge of Afghan detainees.
the Minister of National Defence has an exemplary record of service to this country, whether it is as a decorated police officer, as a decorated military officer, or as Minister of National Defence.
- answeredGovernment AccountabilityThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the premise of muzzling by describing increased independence and resources.
we are giving the parliamentary budget officer more resources and greater independence.
- partly answeredSoftwood LumberDenis Lebel (Conservative) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses collaboration with provinces but does not outline a concrete plan for forestry workers.
we are working very closely with all our provincial counterparts, including those in the Government of Quebec.
- misdirectedNational DefenceDenis Lebel (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific question about Operation Medusa and pivots to general support for troops.
I would never detract from the accomplishments of our men and women in the Canadian Armed Forces.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the resignation demand and the factual challenge, shifting to the defence policy review.
Our government is focused on making sure that we provide the right care for our troops.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the call to resign and the criticism of sincerity by restating support for the military.
I want to thank the former general for his service to this country.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the comparison to troops and the demand to step down, focusing instead on general duties.
Every single day I will work hard, as I have always done, to make sure that they have all the right tools
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer deflects the resignation demand by acknowledging the asker's role and listing government actions.
I understand that the member opposite has a job to do.
- answeredNational DefenceMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the ethics commissioner query and states the matter is closed.
I have spoken to the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner on this subject.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the contradiction about knowledge of detainee transfers by pivoting to the commissioner.
I have spoken to the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner. She is satisfied with the answer and she considers the matter closed.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the request for explanation of the exaggeration and instead lists unrelated activities.
I take every opportunity to make sure that we highlight the great work of our men and women in the Canadian Armed Forces, such as by taking trips into Iraq and making sure they have the necessary tools.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Alupa Clarke (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the call to resign by shifting to defence policy review and tools for forces.
We are making sure that we have done a thorough analysis and making sure that they have all the right tools and the right funding and, most important, the right care so that they can carry out their missions both at home and abroad.
- deflectedNational DefenceCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the demand to step aside by reiterating focus on tools for the forces.
Our government is focused on making sure our men and women in the Canadian Armed Forces have all the necessary tools to make sure that we are doing a good job, whether it is in domestic operations supporting Canadians, or whether it is in taking the increased leadership role in NATO, or whether it is in increasing the fight against Daesh.
- deflectedNational DefenceCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids acknowledging any breach of trust and instead repeats emphasis on providing tools.
I have the privilege of serving as Minister of National Defence. I am honoured to serve our men and women in the Canadian Armed Forces.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the secrecy claim by noting Toronto is not secret and explains the purpose of engagement.
I do not think Toronto is very secret, by the way.
- answeredSoftwood LumberMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly outlines short- and long-term plans involving provincial counterparts and support for workers.
In the short term, it is essential that we look after workers and producers.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the part-time job criticism and the EU rejection by praising Dion and citing positive European reactions.
I must say I have heard personally from Europeans, including Chancellor Merkel, including Federica Mogherini, how delighted they are to have Stéphane Dion there.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer praises Dion without addressing the claimed EU refusal or special envoy status.
Mr. Dion understands the transatlantic relationship that we have with our European allies and he will be able to advance our interests and our common values.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer recharacterizes the appointment positively but ignores the request for the PM to take responsibility.
I would rather characterize the appointment of Stéphane Dion, an outstanding Canadian, to this essential role as a spectacularly good decision.
- answeredPhysician-Assisted DyingMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Jane Philpott (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly explains the independent selection process and that panellists assess evidence regardless of personal views.
Individuals are named to the panel to debate the evidence before them and not to debate their personal views.
- answeredPhysician-Assisted DyingMs. Brigitte Sansoucy (NDP) asked Jane Philpott (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses impartiality by citing the independent selection of 43 academics expected to act with integrity.
They have chosen 43 individuals. These are esteemed academics. They were chosen by an independent process by the Council of Canadian Academies.
- partly answeredFinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes monitoring and a market solution but does not specify when the minister learned of the issue or detail its origins.
We have been very closely monitoring the situation as soon as we understood that there was a challenge with the company in question.
- deflectedFinanceMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses housing risks and market solutions without addressing consultation with the mortgage industry.
We do not see those two things as linked. Importantly, what happened in this situation was that there was a flight of depositors from the company in question.
- answeredFinancePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms that risk sharing is under review to protect taxpayers in the housing insurance system.
We have said that we will look at that risk sharing in order to make sure it continues to appropriately deal with market challenges, and that is what we are engaged in doing.
- deflectedStanding Orders of the House of CommonsMr. Blake Richards (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the process by referencing the platform but does not address the claim of ramming through changes without consensus.
In the letter that I provided to opposition House leaders, I actually shared direct quotes from the platform so that they could see where those ideas were coming from.
- partly answeredShippingMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.Addresses flooding impacts and confirms an investigation but omits details on start date or public release timeline.
We are investigating the situation, and we are going to take the necessary steps to address this problem.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Restates support for Israel and objects to criticism without addressing the call to condemn the UN motion.
I want to be clear that we object to any attempt to unfairly single out Israel for criticism, including in multilateral forums like UNESCO.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Mr. Jean-Claude Poissant (Liberal). substantive question.Affirms protection of supply management but gives no solemn promise on maintaining it unchanged in NAFTA talks.
Our government will continue to protect and defend farmers and supply management.
- deflectedForestry IndustryMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.Acknowledges the issue and describes general efforts but sidesteps the specific request for loan guarantees.
We are talking about transition in the industry. We are talking about the expansion of export markets.
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. David de Burgh Graham (Liberal). rhetorical question.Ignores the privilege speech content and instead questions the speaker's intent regarding committee referral.
I would like to know whether my colleague wishes to send this matter to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs as quickly as possible to study this problem in order to find a solution and ensure that it never happens again.
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.Shifts focus to accusing Conservatives of filibustering rather than engaging the privilege access issue.
Now, on the other hand, there is a hidden agenda coming from the Conservative Party on this issue.
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.Attacks opposition motives on filibustering instead of addressing the substance of the privilege debate.
There is a responsibility of the opposition, especially the official opposition, to behave in a more responsible fashion in dealing with the issue of unfettered access to the parliamentary precinct.
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. Scott Reid (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.Diverts to a past procedural change by the asker rather than responding to the current privilege and committee concerns.
Why the double standard? Why did the member not seek unanimous consent when he wanted to change the rules?
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Ms. Filomena Tassi (Liberal). rhetorical question.The question is a preamble on the meaning of privilege with no direct ask, while the answer pivots to agreement on process and time spent without addressing the core point raised.
We have been discussing this for seven days in the House and essentially we have agreement.
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Wayne Stetski (NDP) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). rhetorical question.The question is a reflective statement on collaboration and access with no query posed, and the answer shifts to procedural history and speaker counts rather than engaging the substance.
As of right now when the member sat down, we have had 49 members speak to this issue.
- partly answeredPrivilegeMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.The question raises the broader issue of MPs' ability to work and hold government to account, and the answer directly addresses sending the matter to committee while agreeing on its seriousness.
Does my colleague not think that it would be better to study this question of privilege at the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs instead of in the House of Commons?
- misdirectedPrivilegeMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Ms. Filomena Tassi (Liberal). loaded question.The question embeds a critical premise about the Prime Minister's attitude toward the House and opposition, and the answer responds by moving a procedural motion to end debate rather than addressing the claim.
That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practice of the House, in relation to the Question of Privilege (denial of access of Members to the Parliamentary Precinct raised on March 22, 2017), at 5:30 p.m. today or when no member rises to speak, the questions on the sub-amendment and the amendment be deemed adopted