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Wednesday, November 2, 2016 · sitting No. 103

Commons opens budget bill debate as Liberals defend deficit plan

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-29, the budget implementation act. Liberal MP David de Burgh Graham opened the debate by contrasting the bill with previous Conservative omnibus legislation. Conservative MP Mark Strahl replied that the government had already exceeded its deficit target by more than three times and left no path back to balance.

Question period featured repeated Conservative attacks on job creation and borrowing. Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose told the Prime Minister that no new full-time jobs had been created since the election and asked what he would say to unemployed Canadians. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the government had lowered taxes for the middle class and was investing in infrastructure to produce long-term growth.

New Democratic Party Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the Prime Minister on electoral reform and asked whether proportional representation had received the most support at a recent town hall in his riding. Trudeau said the results of all consultations would inform forthcoming deliberations.

Decided that day

  • Bill passed third reading and sent for royal assent
  • Bill passed second reading and referred to fisheries committee
  • Citizenship and immigration committee ordered to study a matter

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2016-11-02

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 46%, opposition 54% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodGovernment businessPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
64Bills Advance Past Routine QueriesThe House devoted most of its time to substantive business and passed three recorded votes that moved legislation forward. Several new bills were introduced and one advanced a stage while Question Period produced mostly deflected answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Employment

Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre asked Finance Minister Bill Morneau how much it would cost to create one job after the government announced it would borrow $26 billion yet had lost 6,000 full-time positions.

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Ethics

Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose asked the Prime Minister whether he would follow his own ethical guidelines after new bribery charges against an Ontario Liberal adviser. Trudeau replied that federal fundraising rules are among the strictest in the country.

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International Trade

NDP MP Tracey Ramsey asked International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland to remove investor-state provisions from the Canada-European Union agreement. Liberal MP David Lametti said the deal already enshrines the right to regulate.

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Indigenous Affairs

NDP MP Guy Caron asked Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett when new money would flow to enforce a motion on ending discrimination against First Nations children. Liberal MP Yvonne Jones said the government had already accepted Jordan's principle and invested $382 million.

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The Environment

Conservative MP Kevin Waugh asked Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale to defend Saskatchewan against a federal carbon tax. Goodale said the province would control all revenues and could cut other taxes.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer pivots to tax cuts and infrastructure without addressing the zero job creation claim or message to unemployed.we actually lowered taxes for the middle class, and raised them on the wealthiest 1%, which the members opposite voted against.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats tax talking points and attacks prior government instead of addressing the new borrowing and respect for families.We will take no lessons on investing in the middle class and building for the future from a former government that did not get it done for 10 long years.
  3. misdirected
    EmploymentRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to general Alberta support and resource markets rather than addressing the specific Vegreville centre closure and local jobs.Whether it is strengthening the EI system, or making hundreds of millions of dollars flow into Alberta to support the important economy there, we know that what Albertans need most is a government that understands that getting resources to market in a sustainable way is something all Canadians need
  4. deflected
    EthicsRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer highlights federal fundraising rules without addressing the specific ethical violations or cash-for-access scheme raised.it is important to reassure, and remind Canadians that at the federal level we have some of the toughest rules on fundraising of any level of government across the country, indeed the continent.
  5. deflected
    EthicsRona Ambrose (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer asserts compliance with rules but does not engage the question of whether the Prime Minister is following his own stricter ethical guidelines.we are absolutely following our own rules.
  6. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer discusses openness and consultations instead of clarifying the meaning of the mandate letter's higher standards beyond the law.after 10 years of a government that did not do a good job of living up to Canadians' expectations, we know people needed and wanted a government that was more open, transparent, and mostly accessible.
  7. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer reiterates strict rules and transparency without choosing between stricter standards or mere legal compliance as demanded.Canadians can be assured that the federal government has extremely strict rules around fundraising.
  8. partly answered
    Democratic ReformThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer notes that town hall reports will feed into deliberations but does not state which system had most support at the PM's event.The report on that consultation along with all the other consultations done by the minister and MPs will be part of the deliberations coming up.
  9. deflected
    Democratic ReformThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses consultations without addressing the evidence or proportional representation specifically.That is why we have a committee and are holding consultations.
  10. deflected
    FinanceDenis Lebel (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to praising benefits instead of addressing the lack of a balanced budget plan.I am confident that Canadian families who have benefited from the Canada child benefit and a tax cut would give us a gold medal, because they now have more money in their pockets.
  11. deflected
    FinanceDenis Lebel (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promotes the economic plan without stating any timeline or plan for balancing the budget.We are going to make investments in infrastructure to stimulate our economy and create more jobs and future opportunities for young people and future generations.
  12. deflected
    EmploymentPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer gives a general long-term plan response without engaging the job loss or cost calculation premise.I think Canadians can agree that the challenges we are facing as a nation require a long-term plan.
  13. deflected
    EmploymentPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates investment commitments without addressing the economic subtraction or job loss claim.We are going to make responsible investments that are going to make a real difference for our children and our grandchildren.
  14. deflected
    FinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights the economic plan and debt ratio without providing any balance date.That is why our GDP-to-debt ratio will fall during our term.
  15. deflected
    FinanceMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends long-term focus without answering when equilibrium or balance will be reached.Focusing on how we can improve the economy over the long term is exactly what we are trying to do.
  16. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Ms. Yvonne Jones (Liberal). substantive question.The answer cites specific past investments but does not address new funding release tied to the motion.We are the first government to step up and accept Jordan's principle and are investing more than $382 million immediately in first nations children.
  17. deflected
    International TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promotes CETA's benefits without addressing dairy compensation, drug prices, or committing to remove investor state provisions.The trade committee will have a chance to look at CETA and address certain issues, but for the time being, Philippe Couillard, Premier of Quebec, has called it a historic, modern, and progressive agreement.
  18. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Dianne L. Watts (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights new investments without addressing the claim of removing $15 billion from communities.plan that provides a $2-billion investment in rural communities.
  19. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Dianne L. Watts (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer cites external support without addressing low job creation or admitting any plan failure.leading economists around the world are looking at what Canada is doing and are saying that this is absolutely what we should do.
  20. partly answered
    EmploymentMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Amarjeet Sohi (Liberal). substantive question.The answer provides project numbers but does not resolve conflicting figures or directly address job creation timelines.We committed to invest more than $180 billion over the next 12 years, and as part of our commitment in budget 2016, we approved more than 950 projects, with a combined investment of $12 billion.
  21. partly answered
    EmploymentMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses the infrastructure bank creating jobs but offers no new plan addressing the shift of funds from communities.We know that with more investment in infrastructure we will create jobs now and in the future for Canadian families.
  22. partly answered
    Post-Secondary EducationMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Mr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal). substantive question.The answer details the repayment threshold and grants but does not address broader debt or access issues raised.This is over and above the $1.5 billion that this government has invested in student grants.
  23. partly answered
    Post-Secondary EducationMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal). substantive question.The answer covers youth jobs but does not engage with debt burdens or specific student solutions proposed.We have doubled the amount of money for the youth employment strategy and doubled the number of summer jobs for young Canadians.
  24. deflected
    Foreign AffairsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Stéphane Dion (Liberal). substantive question.The answer emphasizes general human rights goals without stating how Canada voted on the specific nations.I am proud to say that we seek to maximize membership on this council with countries that have strong human rights records at home and abroad, and that this council, as everywhere, will promote universal human rights, as we have done over the last year with the greatest of results.
  25. deflected
    Foreign AffairsPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Stéphane Dion (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists human rights achievements instead of addressing the specific vote question.I want to thank my colleague for giving me the opportunity to comment on the impressive record we have with respect to the promotion of human rights over the last year.
  26. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses travel and a general approach without addressing the question about Canadian interests or the UN seat motive.While Canada has a responsible part to play in this world in conflict prevention and conflict reduction, this is another trip that I will be taking to Africa to learn more and work with my colleagues in a whole-of-government approach to peace operations, which I look forward to sharing with Canadians and all parliamentarians.
  27. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer talks about selecting a place for contribution and Canada's role without addressing the specific risks or national interests in Mali.as we look at all aspects of conflict in Africa, we will be selecting a place where Canada can make a meaningful contribution.
  28. partly answered
    Canada PostMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Judy Foote (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges Canada Post's independence and mentions the review but does not address requiring Canadian-made products.Canada Post is a crown corporation. It makes decisions about where it buys its products.
  29. partly answered
    HealthMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Jane Philpott (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses updating the approach to infections but does not address the specific funding cut or meeting with groups.I am working actively with the Public Health Agency of Canada to update our approach to these conditions, including hepatitis C and HIV.
  30. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Kevin Waugh (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the carbon tax benefits without addressing the minister's representation of Saskatchewan or the letter.on the substance of the federal proposal, it provides the province with complete control over program design and also all the revenues.
  31. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise by boasting about personal record instead of addressing the request to defend the province.I have been doing that with considerable success since 1974.
  32. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David Anderson (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists investments and climate impacts without addressing the carbon tax effects on farmers or standing up for them.the consequences of climate change, like droughts, fires, storms, and floods, impose billions of dollars in costs and losses on provinces like Saskatchewan and its municipalities.
  33. deflected
    HealthMr. Colin Carrie (Conservative) asked Jane Philpott (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes a new approach without addressing the claimed funding cuts or prioritization of Canadian organizations over foreign ones.We are interested in a new approach to sexually transmitted and blood-borne infections, including HIV and Hepatitis C.
  34. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Wayne Stetski (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The response highlights budget measures but does not address the backlog or advice for constituents facing a month without income.In budget 2016, we announced important measures to increase the flexibility and inclusivity of EI benefits.
  35. partly answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked John McCallum (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the business case and transition efforts but does not address the specific claims of no cost analysis or union disagreement.The fact of the matter is there is a net increase in jobs in Alberta, but there is a strong case for this.
  36. deflected
    International TradeMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The response promotes CETA benefits but avoids any commitment to additional time for Parliament to study the agreement before a vote.CETA is clearly in Canada's national interest, and it is time for all of us to rally around it.