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Friday, June 3, 2016 · sitting No. 65

Liberals defend electoral reform committee plan as Conservatives push referendum

Question period on democratic reform consumed the largest share of House time. Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson repeatedly demanded a national referendum on any change to the voting system. Liberal MP Mark Holland defended the all-party committee process agreed the previous day and said it would allow broad public input.

Report stage debate on the Budget Implementation Act, 2016, No. 1 occupied the next largest block. NDP MP Guy Caron moved nine motions to delete clauses dealing with tax measures and program changes. Finance Minister Bill Morneau countered with an amendment adding three regions to the list of areas eligible for the Canada child benefit top-up.

Decided that day

  • C-284, C-282, C-283 and C-285 introduced
  • C-224 passed second reading

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Who held the floor · 2016-06-03

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 45%, opposition 55% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:00Last speech 13:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
68Bills Advance in Routine SittingThe House spent most of its time on substantive topics and advanced five bills through introduction or second reading. No points of order arose and no votes were recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Rail Transportation

NDP MP Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet pressed Transport Minister Marc Garneau to accelerate removal of DOT-111 tank cars after the committee visited Lac-Mégantic. Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez said $143 million had already been allocated for rail safety upgrades.

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Marijuana

NDP MP Sheri Benson questioned the appointment of Anne McLellan to the marijuana task force given her past statements. Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould replied that the task force would include health, justice and public-safety perspectives.

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Ethics

Conservative MP Mel Arnold asked how the new fisheries minister could perform his duties given the Ethics Commissioner's restrictions on dealings with the Irving Group. Liberal MP Serge Cormier said the minister had already sought and would follow the commissioner's advice.

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Ministerial Expenses

Liberal MP Matt Jeneroux criticized the infrastructure minister's office fit-up costs. Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez replied that new offices and equipment were required because no dedicated infrastructure department had existed before November 2015.

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Softwood Lumber

Conservative MP Todd Doherty said the 100-day deadline for a new softwood agreement was approaching without progress. Liberal MP David Lametti said negotiations with the U.S. trade representative were continuing at multiple levels.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Democratic ReformKevin Sorenson (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids referendum question by highlighting Conservative inconsistency instead.I am confused. If they agreed with it on May 12, if they thought it was a good idea on May 12, and if they thought this was a productive process, why are they not working with us now?
  2. deflected
    Democratic ReformKevin Sorenson (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer pivots to past Conservative failures and compromise without addressing referendum.in the last Parliament we saw exactly how we do not want to deal with an issue like electoral reform.
  3. deflected
    Democratic ReformKevin Sorenson (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer criticizes Conservative participation instead of explaining referendum stance.They had every opportunity today to talk about how they could improve this committee process to engage Canadians.
  4. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes consensus without confirming or denying a referendum.
  5. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer again highlights Conservative flip-flop rather than addressing referendum commitment.the Conservative Party said online that it supported the idea of all parties working together without a Liberal Party majority.
  6. deflected
    Rail TransportationMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Mr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists funding initiatives but does not specify timeline for phasing out DOT-111 cars.With that in mind, we are investing $143 million to improve rail safety and the transportation of dangerous goods.
  7. partly answered
    Rail TransportationMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Mr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges listening to residents and prioritizes safety but offers no specific commitments on repairs or bypass.He listened to residents, who lived through this horrible tragedy, and he will continue to listen to them.
  8. answered
    Democratic ReformMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly addresses resources for MPs and committee process to enable participation.The committee does need to be resourced so it can travel across the country.
  9. partly answered
    Democratic ReformMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Mentions digital and travel outreach but pivots to committee participation instead of specific new tools.That of course will mean travel and going directly to talk with these groups. It will mean using innovative digital means to ensure that Canadians can engage, particularly when they are remote or where that connection physically is otherwise difficult for them.
  10. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Scott Reid (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Ignores referendum demand and instead criticizes Conservative inconsistency on committee process.I listened to the member opposite say not very long ago, maybe a couple of weeks ago, that there was no way the Liberals would change their position.
  11. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Scott Reid (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Avoids referendum question by urging focus on committee work and consensus first.What I would suggest is let us get to the work of making a better system, of creating a system that works better for Canadians.
  12. misdirected
    Democratic ReformMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Answers committee majority claim but then attacks past Conservative actions instead of addressing referendum.Where I did see closed-room deals, where I did see Canadians excluded, was unfortunately on the unfair elections act, or the in-and-out scandal, or on the prorogation of Parliament.
  13. deflected
    Democratic ReformMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Dismisses Twitter point with sarcasm and reiterates broad engagement without committing to referendum.maybe it is because only 20% of Canadians are on Twitter that the Conservatives thought they could post that they would support the NDP proposal and then not.
  14. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Restates campaign promise on consultation but does not address referendum or trust in voters.We must work together to change and improve our electoral system.
  15. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Highlights committee opportunity but sidesteps why politicians alone should decide without referendum.During this process, there will be an opportunity to think about how to improve the system.
  16. answered
    MarijuanaMs. Sheri Benson (NDP) asked Jody Wilson-Raybould (Liberal). loaded question.Directly states commitment to legalization with regulation and upcoming task force, addressing the policy shift concern.as we have said, our government is committed to the legalization of marijuana, strictly regulating and restricting access to marijuana, with the ultimate objective of keeping it out of the hands of children, and keeping the proceeds out of the hands of criminals.
  17. deflected
    MarijuanaMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Jody Wilson-Raybould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates commitment and announces a task force without addressing the specific concern about the appointee's past opposition.our government is committed to legalizing marijuana, strictly regulating marijuana, and doing this in a careful and orderly manner.
  18. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Mel Arnold (Conservative) asked Mr. Serge Cormier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the minister's contact with the commissioner and screening measures but does not fully clarify how the job can be performed without violation.The department will implement a rigorous process to ensure that the minister is not in a conflict of interest.
  19. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Mel Arnold (Conservative) asked Mr. Serge Cormier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reiterates following the commissioner's advice and ethical standards but avoids addressing the advisory committee conflict or appointing a replacement.The commissioner recommended that the minister's staff use screening measures.
  20. deflected
    Ministerial ExpensesMr. Matt Jeneroux (Conservative) asked Mr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). loaded question.The answer justifies the need for offices and furnishings but does not address the specific extravagance or contrast with EI benefits.This file is important to our government, which is why these positions were created.
  21. deflected
    Ministerial ExpensesMr. Matt Jeneroux (Conservative) asked Mr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the need for offices and pivots to the infrastructure plan without justifying the specific expenditures or addressing the used-furniture comparison.We are introducing the biggest infrastructure plan in the history of Canada: $120 billion in green and social infrastructure.
  22. partly answered
    International TradeMs. Tracey Ramsey (NDP) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the report and consultations but does not state a position on rejecting the TPP or prioritizing Canadians over corporate rights.This is all information that we are taking in, and it will form part of the basis upon which we make our final decision on whether to ratify the TPP.
  23. deflected
    HealthMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Ms. Kamal Khera (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms support for the Canada Health Act principles but does not address enforcement against illegal fees or the specific lawsuit.We are committed to working with our partners to strengthen our publicly funded universal health care system, while at the same time upholding the principles of the Canada Health Act.
  24. partly answered
    Mining IndustryMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes the budget 2016 extension and future focus but does not commit to a predictable long-term extension of the tax credit.We did take measures in budget 2016 to extend this situation to help the mining sector.
  25. answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Bob Zimmer (Conservative) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). loaded question.Provides a clear timeline and addresses project concerns directly.We have said that once we receive the necessary information, we will make a decision within 90 days.
  26. partly answered
    Softwood LumberMr. Todd Doherty (Conservative) asked Mr. David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.Describes ongoing meetings and commitment but offers no concrete progress on a deal.We are going to get a deal done, and a good deal.
  27. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the funding delay and pivots to general relationship-building rhetoric.One of the issues before us is in regard to our young people.
  28. deflected
    Parks CanadaMr. Wayne Stetski (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). substantive question.Affirms ecological integrity without addressing the buffer zone request.We look forward to working together with the member opposite to ensure we do maintain the ecological integrity.
  29. answered
    HousingMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Lists specific policy changes and budget measures taken on housing.Within one month of coming into office, we changed the rules around down payments for people on homes at the higher end.
  30. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. David Sweet (Conservative) asked Ms. Pam Goldsmith-Jones (Liberal). substantive question.Discusses re-engagement strategy instead of addressing calls to denounce specific persecution.Canada's severing of ties with Iran had no positive consequences for anyone
  31. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Ms. Pam Goldsmith-Jones (Liberal). substantive question.States human rights are raised generally but does not confirm the listed issues were discussed.Canada consistently raises human rights concerns with the Chinese government, as the Minister of Foreign Affairs did this week with the Chinese foreign minister.
  32. misdirected
    Consular AffairsMr. David Anderson (Conservative) asked Mr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal). loaded question.Addresses consular efforts but attacks the questioner for playing politics.I encourage the hon. members not to play politics with issues of concerns of Canadians who are struck abroad.
  33. answered
    Official LanguagesMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Mr. Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly affirms leadership and responsibility for official languages.Not only is there someone guiding the ship, but there are many capable hands on deck because our whole-of-government approach represents Canadians from coast to coast and upholds our government's rights and responsibilities vis-à-vis official languages.
  34. partly answered
    HealthPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mr. Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses support for the hospital but avoids naming alternative sites or explaining the delay.For this reason, the Minister of Canadian Heritage has asked the National Capital Commission to review possible sites for the Ottawa Hospital Civic Campus through a rigorous and transparent process in order to provide the government with a recommendation.
  35. deflected
    Rail TransportationMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Mr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer restates general investments and consultations without addressing the specific petition promise.I said that the government recognizes the importance of ensuring the safety of our rail transportation system and that is why we invested in it significantly; $143 million was allocated to improving rail safety and the transportation of dangerous goods.
  36. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Ms. Pam Goldsmith-Jones (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends existing controls and past sales rather than committing to stop arms sales.Canadian LAVs have been sold to Saudi Arabia for over 20 years, and all of our checks to date indicate that they have not been used inappropriately.
  37. partly answered
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Bloc) asked Navdeep Bains (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer expresses confidence in engagement but provides no timeline or concrete action on Bombardier.I am very confident that we will be able to find a solution that is good for the companies, the sector, and the public.