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Wednesday, October 29, 2014 · sitting No. 134

Commons opens second-reading debate on 460-page budget bill

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on second reading of Bill C-43, the Economic Action Plan 2014 Act, No. 2. Conservative MP Andrew Saxton opened the debate by describing the legislation as a continuation of measures that have produced nearly 1.2 million net new jobs since the recession. New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen and Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux questioned the use of an omnibus format and the handling of the temporary foreign worker program.

In Question Period the main exchanges concerned rail safety and manufacturing employment. New Democrat MP Hoang Mai pressed Transport Minister Lisa Raitt to increase inspectors and impose fines after unreported accidents, while she replied that emergency directives and safety-management systems are already in place. New Democrat MP Peggy Nash and Conservative Minister James Moore clashed over the loss of 600,000 manufacturing jobs and the merits of budget measures to support the sector.

Decided that day

  • Economic Action Plan 2014 Act No. 2 referred to committee
  • Bill on public safety passed third reading
  • Bill C-520 amended and advanced
  • Ebola motion defeated

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Who held the floor · 2014-10-29

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 45%, opposition 55% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Bills Advance, Answers Mostly DodgeThe House spent most of its time on legislation, advancing four bills through first or second reading and passing several votes on amendments and third readings. Question period produced few direct answers while two Ebola-related motions failed.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Public Safety

New Democrat Leader Thomas Mulcair asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper when vacant seats on the Security Intelligence Review Committee would be filled and whether civilian oversight would accompany new security legislation; Harper said the seats would be filled soon and that CSIS already meets its legal obligations.

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Employment Insurance

Liberal MP Chrystia Freeland cited the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s estimate that the small-business job credit would cost $700,000 per job created; Finance Minister Joe Oliver replied that the Canadian Federation of Independent Business supports the measure for lowering payroll taxes by 15 per cent.

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Canada Post

New Democrat MP Megan Leslie reported that a Nova Scotia resident’s community-mailbox key also opens a neighbour’s box; Transport Minister Lisa Raitt said Canada Post is rolling out the final third of community mailboxes and urged residents to report problems directly.

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Veterans Affairs

Liberal MP Frank Valeriote noted that the omnibus budget bill contains nothing for veterans despite unanimous committee recommendations; Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino said the government is following a phased approach to most of the recommendations.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses measures taken but deflects on new developments by deferring to RCMP statements.I have nothing to add to its public statements.
  2. deflected
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any plan for consultation and instead restates a general principle on rights and safety.On this side of the House, we do not presume that protecting people's rights and ensuring their safety are mutually exclusive.
  3. partly answered
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses filling seats but deflects on oversight concerns by praising CSIS record.the government will fill those seats in the near future.
  4. deflected
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids restoring funding and instead repeats praise for CSIS without addressing cuts.the government always ensures that these agencies have the necessary resources to do their jobs.
  5. misdirected
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise distinguishing disturbed individuals from organized terror and pivots to the government's approach.There is, of course, Mr. Speaker, no contradiction to individuals who may have a series of personal financial and mental difficulties and also be engaged in terrorist Jihadist activities as, indeed, the police have already said.
  6. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the existing oversight system without addressing creation of an all-party committee.under successive governments of different political stripes, the government has long had a system of effective oversight of CSIS and our security agencies.
  7. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again defends existing oversight and rejects the premise that agencies threaten rights.I do not think we should start from the assumption that everything our police and security agencies do is somehow a threat to the rights of Canadians.
  8. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims actions have been taken but does not address implementing O'Connor recommendations.Once again, Mr. Speaker, we have acted.
  9. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the bill without addressing oversight specifically.We have a balanced bill that clarifies the mandate, role, and responsibilities of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service with respect to the protection of Canadians.
  10. partly answered
    Public SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.It claims the bill facilitates oversight activities.by clarifying the role of CSIS, Bill C-44 will facilitate oversight activities.
  11. partly answered
    Rail TransportationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses increasing inspectors but deflects on fines by talking about prosecution.indeed, we have already increased the number of inspectors in this country.
  12. deflected
    Rail TransportationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Focuses on directives and investments instead of fines.I have issued numerous emergency directives.
  13. deflected
    Rail TransportationMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Answers by defending the audit approach via safety management systems.It is world renowned. It is state of the art.
  14. partly answered
    Manufacturing IndustryMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Refers to budget 2014 for assistance but doesn't detail a strategy.pointed to this year's budget that is before the Parliament of Canada
  15. deflected
    Manufacturing IndustryMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes lack of action, answer counters with budget and criticizes NDP.Unfortunately, NDP members have said they will vote against the budget, before they read it;
  16. misdirected
    The BudgetMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.Turns to criticizing opposition instead of explaining job creation in manufacturing.The Liberals and the NDP support a 40- to 45-day work year.
  17. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists general job numbers and tax credits instead of addressing the specific EI plan or omnibus bill criticisms.More than 1.1 million net new jobs have been created since the depths of the recession, over 80% full-time, nearly 80% in the private sector.
  18. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chrystia Freeland (Liberal) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal plan and cites CFIB praise rather than engaging the PBO cost-per-job figures.it is the Liberals' back-of-the-envelope plan that would actually reduce jobs by encouraging companies to fire people.
  19. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to unrelated budget praise and attacks Liberals instead of addressing the asylum-seeker provision or provincial consultation.Why do the Liberals insist on talking about this measure and not all the other budget measures we have taken to make Canada's middle class the strongest in the world, as indicated in The New York Times study?
  20. deflected
    Employment InsuranceScott Brison (Liberal) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the claim that the Liberal plan encourages firings and lists unrelated budget items rather than addressing the small business job credit analysis.by now everyone understands that the Liberal plan is an incentive for companies to fire employees.
  21. deflected
    EmploymentMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites a drop in requests and one employer anecdote instead of addressing the accuracy of job market numbers or program mismanagement.We know this because the number of employer requests for temporary foreign workers has dropped by 75%.
  22. partly answered
    EmploymentMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the timing of inspection powers but does not address the later rise in foreign worker numbers or overall management failures.the new powers for inspecting workplaces could only be legally applied prospectively for temporary foreign workers who are being applied for and would arrive in the future, not for those who applied in the past.
  23. deflected
    Canada PostMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the five-point plan and volume decline but does not address the security or accessibility concerns with superboxes.It has devised a five-point plan.
  24. deflected
    Canada PostMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the rollout explanation and volume statistics without addressing the key or manufacturing concerns.as I have indicated before, currently two-thirds of Canadians do not receive their mail at their door but go to community mailboxes.
  25. deflected
    Consumer ProtectionMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.The response promotes a voluntary approach and attacks the NDP's voting record instead of addressing the timeline for mandatory regulations.However, the NDP voted against the code and against supporting small businesses and consumers.
  26. deflected
    Consumer ProtectionMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer criticizes NDP position rather than addressing whether voluntary code will work.the NDP always wants more legislation and higher fees for Canadians.
  27. partly answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the issue and states that recommendations will lead to improvements, but does not specify a timeline.These recommendations will lead to change and improve services for all Canadian taxpayers.
  28. answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The response directly addresses the evaluation and ongoing actions to improve communications.This third-party evaluation was initiated by CRA as part of our effort to provide critical input into reducing red tape and to support taxpayers in compliance.
  29. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states agreement with most recommendations and a phased approach but does not explain absence from the budget bill.Our response was positive, and is positive, that we would be bringing forward a phased approach, and we accepted a significant portion of the committee's recommendations.
  30. deflected
    SeniorsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to general tax reduction claims without addressing the specific HST on health centres.our government has, over the years, reduced taxes for Canadians to the point where they are lower than they have been in the last 50 years.
  31. deflected
    HousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights their Housing First approach and criticizes NDP opposition instead of committing to new funding.The NDP unfortunately opposes that approach.
  32. deflected
    HousingMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes existing investments and criticizes NDP proposals rather than addressing declining funding.We know that the NDP wants to create big, bureaucratic Ottawa programs to increase taxes on Canadians.
  33. deflected
    HousingMr. Adam Vaughan (Liberal) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise outright and pivots to promoting existing programs without addressing housing construction or wait times.The report on the state of homelessness in Canada report said, "The federal implementation of Housing First is easily the most important development in homeless services in Canada this year...."
  34. answered
    Marine TransportationMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the tanker safety panel findings and ongoing implementation of recommendations to improve spill response.The panel found that we were prepared to respond to spills in the country, but we could do better.
  35. answered
    Rail TransportationMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The response points to grade crossing regulations that address municipal-rail disagreements on safety crossings.It is this government that has brought in grade crossing regulations in order to deal with the situation the hon. member has outlined
  36. partly answered
    Rail TransportationMrs. Maria Mourani (Independent) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the issue is under review by an advisory panel but offers no commitment or timeline for minimum distance standards.This matter is being considered by that advisory panel at the moment