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Tuesday, May 6, 2014 · sitting No. 81
Opposition motion seeks review of temporary foreign worker program
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on an opposition motion moved by Liberal MP John McCallum that the Temporary Foreign Worker Program is broken and that the government should reduce intake, order an Auditor General review, disclose Labour Market Opinion data and tighten approvals. Conservative MP Roxanne James defended the program as filling specific shortages and accused Liberals of previously supporting expansions. NDP MP Jinny Jogindera Sims pressed McCallum on data sources for determining admission numbers.
In Question Period, NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair questioned Prime Minister Stephen Harper on the propriety of a call from the Chief Justice regarding Justice Marc Nadon's appointment and asked whether Nadon would be reappointed. Harper said the government had consulted independent legal experts before the appointment and would follow the Supreme Court ruling. Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and Mulcair also challenged Harper on the scale of the temporary foreign worker program and called for reduced admissions.
Auditor General reports on Statistics Canada data gaps, prison capacity and tax enforcement prompted further exchanges, with Conservative ministers defending program changes and NDP members highlighting mismanagement.
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Who held the floor · 2014-05-06
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Points of Order
Green Party MP Elizabeth May argued that independent and smaller-party members should retain report-stage amendment rights on Bill C-23 after time allocation limited committee consideration.
Read the exchangeChamplain Bridge
NDP MP Hoang Mai cited a Quebec study showing a toll would increase traffic on other bridges by up to 25 per cent and called for an integrated plan; Infrastructure Minister Denis Lebel said the government would proceed with a public-private partnership and toll.
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NDP MP Pierre Nantel noted cumulative cuts of $520 million and asked Heritage Minister Shelly Glover to appear before committee; Glover said recent programming decisions were made by CBC management, not the government.
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Government House Leader Peter Van Loan obtained unanimous consent to adjourn early on May 8 so members could attend events marking the National Day of Honour for Afghanistan veterans.
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- deflectedJusticeThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates consultation with experts instead of clarifying the contradiction on the call.
On the contrary, I was well aware of that and that is why I consulted legal and constitutional experts.
- deflectedJusticeThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the timing of comments by repeating prior consultation details.
I am not the one who brought up this call.
- deflectedJusticeThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims clarity on the decision but does not rule out reappointment as asked.
We will act according the letter and spirit of the Supreme Court decision.
- misdirectedJusticeThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the Supreme Court ruling's consequences rather than ruling out reappointment.
They are now saying that Federal Court judges from Quebec are second class judges and are ineligible to sit on the Supreme Court like their counterparts from the other provinces do.
- deflectedJusticeThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and restates consultation instead of addressing the call for an apology.
I categorically reject the premise of that question.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains general respect for courts but does not withdraw the accusations as requested.
It is out of respect for the independence of the courts that the prime minister does not discuss an issue if he believes that it may go before the courts in the future.
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states a preference for Canadian workers but does not commit to reducing temporary foreign workers.
It is my strong view that it is always preferable that jobs be filled by Canadians.
- misdirectedEmploymentMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's flip-flop instead of addressing support for the motion.
it is passing strange that the Liberal Party would ask us to support its own flip-flop on the temporary foreign worker program.
- deflectedEmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The response discusses immigration reforms and skills gaps without addressing the request for an Auditor General investigation of the temporary foreign worker program.
There are no general labour shortages in Canada, but there are particular skills gaps in certain regions and industries.
- deflectedTaxationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights CRA actions and government measures but avoids explaining why documents were withheld from the Auditor General.
The CRA has accepted and is already acting on all the audit recommendations to improve administrative aspects of the aggressive tax planning program
- deflectedNorthern Economic Development AgencyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The response accepts recommendations and touts investments but does not address the accusation that CanNor is a slush fund.
I have given the agency clear instructions to immediately improve its administrative procedures.
- deflectedCorrectional Service of CanadaMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks NDP projections and claims policies are working rather than outlining a plan for prison overcrowding.
is it not the apocalyptic projection of the NDP that has not materialized?
- deflectedCorrectional Service of CanadaMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The response emphasizes cost savings and policy success but provides no plan to address prison overcrowding or rehabilitation.
Our policies are working, and our prisons are there to keep prisoners behind bars.
- deflectedCensusMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies any link between the census change and labour data without addressing the call to reverse the decision.
The long form census had nothing to do with labour market data.
- deflectedEmploymentMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The response criticizes the NDP and references past reforms instead of addressing the refusal of an independent review.
the NDP is as far behind the news as The Huffington Post
- misdirectedEmploymentMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's coherence on policy rather than addressing the request to open books to the Auditor General.
However, the NDP's position is completely incoherent.
- deflectedEmploymentMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer changes subject to an NDP MP's request rather than addressing program responsibility or manufacturing issues.
In fact, an NDP MP for a community in southern Ontario with high unemployment asked me to facilitate the entry to Canada of a number of temporary foreign workers from China so that they could install machinery in an Ontario factory because it was necessary.
- deflectedJusticeIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids yes/no on Chief Justice by restating government actions and expressing surprise at the question.
I would not be surprised at all if there were times on occasion when the member, as a former justice minister himself, did not agree with what a judgment might have been.
- partly answeredEmploymentJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses ignoring warnings by noting Conservative input led to investigations but ignores the specific Liberal warning cited.
I received complaints from them about alleged abuses in that program, which allowed us then to launch investigations.
- partly answeredEmploymentJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists program changes informed by input but does not directly address ignoring the 2009 warning from the member for Wild Rose.
We appreciate such input. That has helped to inform our tightening up of this program, which has resulted, for example, in the $275 cost replacement fee for LMO applications on new questions, on longer advertising periods
- answeredEmploymentMr. Matthew Dubé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly responds to the call for an independent investigation by referencing the 2009 Auditor General study and planned actions.
again, if the Auditor General wants to do a second analysis of the program, obviously, we will support such a study, but a study was done in 2009.
- answeredEmploymentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses surveillance, enforcement, and audit requests by detailing new integrity division and inspection powers.
In fact, last year we created a specific program integrity division at Service Canada, precisely to survey use of the program, including with new legislative powers, which came into effect last December.
- deflectedEmploymentMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer deflects by again citing an unnamed NDP front-bencher's request instead of addressing independent review or regional unemployment data.
Just down the road from the member—and I am not going to name the member; I do not want to embarrass him—in a riding in southern Ontario with high unemployment, there is a member of her front bench who approached me to facilitate the entry of over ten Chinese temporary foreign workers.
- misdirectedEmploymentMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer turns to praising union ties and training agenda rather than addressing discrimination against union members or the specific Winnipeg case.
in 45 minutes I will be speaking to my brothers and sisters in the Building Trades Unions about this government's trade training agenda.
- deflectedChamplain BridgeMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids addressing lack of studies or consultations by restating the plan to build the bridge.
We have taken responsibility, and we will build a new bridge over the St. Lawrence.
- deflectedChamplain BridgeMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the call for an integrated plan and instead emphasizes the bridge project and a recent meeting.
We will build a new bridge, which is what is most important here.
- answeredCanadian Broadcasting CorporationMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the request to testify and clarifies the government's role versus CBC's decisions.
as in the past, I am always prepared to serve the committee when I am called on to do so.
- deflectedCanadian Broadcasting CorporationMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to CBC's internal decisions and declining revenues rather than addressing investment or a supposed war on culture.
the decision that was made recently was made by CBC, not by the government.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the Prime Minister's role but does not address excluding families, commanders or legions from the event.
The Prime Minister announced this national day of honour to take place on May 9.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reframes the question as respect for the military instead of engaging with the criticism of event planning and photo-op focus.
this day is all about respect for our military and the men and women who gave their lives in support of the mission in Afghanistan.
- deflectedConsumer ProtectionMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights past policy successes on rates and employment but ignores the court challenge and defense of the code.
this government has done extraordinary work with respect to our telecom policy.
- deflectedConsumer ProtectionMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats claims of lower rates and increased employment while avoiding any mention of defending the code in court.
it is our government's policies that have brought down the wireless rates for Canadian consumers
- deflectedCanadian Broadcasting CorporationStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts blame to CBC and CRTC while criticizing the question rather than addressing ministerial knowledge.
I suggest that my colleague check who is really responsible for those decisions before asking such questions in the House of Commons.
- deflectedTransportMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.The response ignores the funding inconsistency and US contribution question, pivoting instead to unrelated positives.
He should be grateful to the government for doing what we are doing in order to ensure that our trade continues to foster.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMr. Marc-André Morin (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms safety rules but defers the requested environmental and health impact details.
I will find out the information for the hon. member and I will refer back to him when I have that from my department.
- answeredParks CanadaMr. Dean Del Mastro (Independent) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly details Parks Canada's actions and cites an independent study on the response.
The management staff at the Trent–Severn Waterway did an exemplary job
- answeredPoints of OrderMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The exchange clarifies procedural rules on amendments without a true question being posed.
The right to make an amendment at report stage exists using the test of whether it possible to make that amendment at committee.