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Monday, February 10, 2014 · sitting No. 45
Fair elections act debate consumes most of Commons sitting
Government orders on Bill C-23, the fair elections act, occupied 45 per cent of the sitting as members continued second reading debate. NDP MP Jinny Jogindera Sims said the bill would suppress votes while Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre defended its removal of vouching and its new identification rules. The bill remains before the House.
In question period NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Poilievre on provisions that would bar the chief electoral officer from promoting voter turnout programs. Poilievre replied that the changes would focus Elections Canada on basic information about where, when and how to vote.
Liberal MP John McCallum asked the government to correct tariff increases and a stalled job grant program in the budget to be tabled the next day. Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson said the budget would balance the books in 2015 and create jobs.
Decided that day
- Bill C-23 read a second time and referred to committee
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Who held the floor · 2014-02-10
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Other moments
Winter Olympic Games
Conservative MP Ted Falk congratulated biathlete Megan Imrie and hockey players Jocelyne Larocque and Bailey Bram from his riding of Provencher on their participation in the Sochi games.
Read the exchangeConsumer Protection
NDP leader Thomas Mulcair cited a 9 per cent rise in household debt to $1.4 trillion and asked when the government would act on ATM fees and credit card rates. Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson urged Canadians to keep household finances in order.
Read the exchangePublic Safety
NDP MP Randall Garrison asked the government to reverse cuts to the first nations constable program. Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney said all allocated funds would support professional policing services.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
Liberal MP Geoff Regan read a letter from Second World War veteran Phillip Wood criticizing the closure of veterans offices. Veterans Affairs Minister Julian Fantino listed expanded points of service and home support programs.
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- deflectedConsumer ProtectionThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids ATM fees and credit card rates by attacking NDP demands and giving general debt advice.
This government is more concerned about putting money back into the pockets of Canadians.
- deflectedConsumer ProtectionThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores ATM fees and credit rates, instead listing tax cuts and blaming opposition votes.
Every time we have made any movement, this government—I mean, this opposition party—has voted against this government's initiatives.
- answeredDemocratic ReformThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the voter information card issue by explaining errors and listing alternatives.
one in six of those cards contains an error, so they are not a secure piece of identification.
- partly answeredDemocratic ReformThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the student vote program by shifting to general voter information requirements but does not defend scrapping it.
The fair elections act would require Elections Canada to better inform young people of all of the voting opportunities available to them.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise about gag orders but pivots to legal sections instead of addressing voter fraud concerns.
In fact, the fair elections act would change section 18 of the Canada Elections Act to shift the advertising function of Elections Canada towards the basics of voting
- deflectedThe BudgetJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids fixing tariffs or the jobs grant by criticizing Liberal votes and urging patience for the budget.
Again, like the other opposition party, Liberals have voted against every job creation measure that this government has brought forward.
- deflectedIntergovernmental RelationsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores provincial offers and the jobs grant, instead citing overall job numbers and international praise.
There have been over one million net new jobs created since July 2009.
- deflectedEmploymentRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps tariff removal and EI taxes by listing past tax cuts and blaming opposition votes.
160 times this government has lowered taxes.
- deflectedThe BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights past statistics and avoids any commitment on the specific budget measures asked about.
Despite this action, we recognize that more can be done. We look forward to the budget tomorrow.
- deflectedThe BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes the IMF positively and restates the government's long-term plan without addressing household debt or the specific proposals.
The Canadian economy strengthened in 2013.... Economic growth is expected to accelerate....
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing youth programs but does not address new private-sector or SME job creation measures requested.
We have our youth employment strategy, which includes skills link, career focus, and paid internships.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise about muzzling and explains the bill's intent without addressing promotion of voter turnout.
Firstly, the changes we are making to section 17 of the Canada Elections Act will shift Elections Canada's ads to more practical notions such as how, where and when to vote.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer points to unchanged reporting sections and claims the premise is based on a misreading of the act.
the NDP members have not read the Canada Elections Act.
- misdirectedDemocratic ReformMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise with statistics on irregularities and does not address the constitutional or access concerns raised.
Twenty-five per cent of cases where vouching was used resulted in irregularities, according to Elections Canada's own reports.
- misdirectedDemocratic ReformMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the report on administrative errors and ignores the distinction between fraud and tick-box issues.
Averaged across 308 ridings, elections officials made over 500 serious administrative errors per electoral district on Election Day.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims the member opposed the bill unread and redirects to committee submissions and the vouching report.
In fact, he declared his opposition to the bill before he even read a single word of it.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Response shifts to committee hearings and bill purpose instead of addressing national public hearings.
the parliamentary committee will obviously be able to hear testimony from Canadians from all regions of Canada.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer counters with overall funding increases rather than addressing the claimed $641-million cut.
federal support for Ontario has increased by 76% since our government took office in 2006.
- deflectedThe BudgetJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). loaded question.Response lists past achievements and future projections instead of describing what the upcoming budget will contain.
thanks to the economic action plan Canada has enjoyed the strongest economic performance among all G7 countries
- misdirectedIntergovernmental RelationsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the Liberal Party's stance rather than explaining how the government will fix the described program issues.
it is rather strange to hear that the Liberal Party is against job training programs that lead to jobs.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). loaded question.Response insists on legal compliance and arm's-length audits without addressing the specific CRA cheque or charity restrictions.
CRA audits occur at arm's length, free of political interference.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats focus on charity rules and transparency without addressing tax-haven enforcement or resource allocation.
The economic action plan gave increased tools to us to look at enforcing those rules.
- answeredAir TransportationMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Response directly cites the 2008 Flight Rights Canada measures and enforcement mechanism.
Under Flight Rights Canada, passengers have a right to information on flight times.
- misdirectedAir TransportationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to attacking the opposition on a carbon tax instead of clarifying the minister's earlier statement.
is it a rumour that they plan implementing a $20 billion carbon tax on Canadian passengers
- deflectedCanada PostMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question about secret diversification plans and cabinet referral, instead discussing the five-point plan.
Canada Post has come up a plan to combat what they are facing in terms of the erosion of letter mail, and has put its five-point plan forward.
- deflectedCanada PostMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the report, redactions, and public disclosure request, reiterating support for the five-point plan.
As a result, it has developed a five-point plan.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The minister deflects by questioning the NDP's stance on fraud instead of addressing the concentration of ministerial power.
would the NDP agree that some people have abused the citizenship program, that there have been some cases of fraud in relation to residency in Canada and that the RCMP is currently investigating 3,000 cases linked to this kind of fraud?
- partly answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses reforms and processing times but ignores the request to work with the opposition on real reform.
We are going to work to bring processing times down below one year in only 18 months and we are going to work to deal with the issues of terrorists, of fraud, of people who join terrorist groups abroad and have dual nationality.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The response directly addresses the funding gap request by rejecting the Liberal position and confirming their escalator rate.
I regret that we will not accept the Liberal position. We will keep the escalator at 4.5%.
- deflected41st General ElectionMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains commissioner powers instead of addressing why the Conservatives would not want to identify the database user.
First of all, he can compel testimony before the courts after charges are laid through something called a subpoena.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The response claims renewal of an agreement but avoids confirming reversal of the specific program termination.
That is why we have renewed our agreement for five years.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to criticizing the NDP instead of justifying the cuts to aboriginal policing.
Unfortunately, we did not have the NDP's support to do so.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Lists existing services without addressing office closures or reopening.
we are treating our veterans with respect.
- partly answeredInternational DevelopmentMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Details past aid amounts but does not commit to using unspent funds for new calls.
in 2013, Canada provided more than $6.9 million in humanitarian aid
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Directly addresses compensation, continued residence, and local support for the land action.
Mr. Meyers will be fairly compensated and will be allowed to continue to live in his home
- partly answeredIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Notes past discussions but does not confirm returning calls or advancing negotiations.
I have had some good discussions on the issue with my Quebec counterpart
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Bruce Hyer (Green) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores economic claims and instead attacks the question as personal accusations.
Today, unfortunately, this member has come only with accusations, personal in nature
- answeredDemocratic ReformMr. Brent Rathgeber (Independent) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Clarifies provisions are existing law and invites further suggestions for consideration.
the provisions that the member describes are features of the existing Canada Elections Act