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Thursday, December 5, 2013 · sitting No. 31

Commons debates Northwest Territories devolution bill amid rail safety questions

The House devoted nearly half its time to second reading of Bill C-15, the Northwest Territories Devolution Act. NDP MP Jinny Jogindera Sims said the bill transfers some powers from the federal minister to the territories but falls short of full provincial status. Conservative MP Mark Warawa said extensive consultations produced strong support for the transfer of authority.

NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked why the government ignored warnings about the Lac-Mégantic railway since 2008 and granted permission for single-conductor operations in 2012. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said an inquiry is examining rule breaches and the government has increased rail inspections.

Mulcair also asked why the government blocked testimony from auditor Michael Runia in the Senate. Harper said the auditors who appeared confirmed the integrity of their work on the Mike Duffy audit.

Decided that day

  • C-15 passed second reading
  • C-16 introduced and passed first and second reading

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2013-12-05

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 26%, opposition 74% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:40Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 35 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
71Bills inch forward while questions mostly missThe House spent the bulk of its time on the Northwest Territories Devolution Act and advanced two bills through early stages with almost no procedural interruptions. Question Period produced few direct answers, yet the share of debate on substantive business remained high.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Pensions

NDP MP Guy Caron said provincial premiers want improvements to the Canada Pension Plan now. Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson said raising costs in a fragile economy is the wrong approach and urged provinces to adopt pooled registered pension plans.

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Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Niki Ashton said only the Conservatives oppose a national inquiry into missing and murdered aboriginal women. Conservative MP Kellie Leitch said the government has invested more than $62 million since 2007 in community projects.

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National Defence

NDP MP Irene Mathyssen said universality of service rules deter soldiers from seeking help for post-traumatic stress. Conservative MP Rob Nicholson said the government has the highest ratio of mental health experts among NATO allies and urged members to encourage those in need to come forward.

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Natural Resources

NDP MP Christine Moore said Doug Eyford's report shows the government must consult first nations properly on resource projects. Conservative MP Kelly Block said the government will review the recommendations before deciding on next steps.

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Nelson Mandela

Prime Minister Stephen Harper called Nelson Mandela the most powerful symbol of the struggle against racial discrimination. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair quoted Mandela praising Canada's respect for diversity.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Rail TransportationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to record investments without addressing ignored warnings or permission to operate.the government has invested record amounts in rail safety.
  2. deflected
    Rail TransportationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer references inquiry and compassion but avoids explaining the one-conductor permission despite warnings.there is an ongoing inquiry into this incident.
  3. deflected
    Rail TransportationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer calls suggestion premature and notes investments without addressing specific 2012 permission or ignored warnings.It would be premature to suggest, as the leader of the NDP does, that he knows all of the facts.
  4. partly answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states auditors testified to integrity but does not address blocking Runia's testimony.the auditors have in fact already testified before the Senate, and they have testified to the integrity of their audit.
  5. partly answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior testimony claim without addressing specific interference or blocking Runia.the auditors who performed the audit have already testified before the Senate, and they testified as to the integrity of their audit.
  6. misdirected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses Senate removal of senators but ignores Gerstein's role and conflict of interest.Those three auditors confirmed the integrity of the audit that was completed on behalf of the Senate.
  7. misdirected
    EthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer redirects to RCMP investigation of Duffy and Wright without addressing Gerstein's conflict or confidence.the RCMP is looking into the actions of Senator Duffy and the actions of Nigel Wright.
  8. deflected
    EthicsMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes auditors' testimony and PMO cooperation but avoids ordering testimony from Gerstein or staff.the three auditors appeared before a Senate committee, and they were very clear in the fact that this audit had been done with complete confidentiality
  9. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to bureaucracy responsibility without addressing law-breaking or blame admission.Records are retained by the bureaucracy.
  10. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior statement on records without explaining changing story.Retained records are kept by the bureaucracy.
  11. misdirected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to RCMP praise instead of addressing PM accountability.the Prime Minister's Office has not only provided full assistance and co-operation but has also provided all and any documentation that the RCMP has required.
  12. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores PCO warning and redirects to RCMP cooperation and unrelated sanctions.All and any information that has been requested from our office has been given to the RCMP
  13. misdirected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer corrects premise on investigation targets rather than addressing email negotiations or warnings.The RCMP has made very clear there are two individuals under investigation.
  14. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states what was conveyed to PM about repayment source.it was always conveyed to me that Mr. Duffy would repay his own expenses.
  15. answered
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly denies knowledge of party payment and accuses asker of ignoring truth.It was always conveyed to me that it was Mr. Duffy who was going to pay Mr. Duffy's expenses, not the Conservative Party
  16. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids yes/no on Gerstein and redirects to status of investigation and sanctions.There is an investigation into the actions of Mr. Duffy and Mr. Wright.
  17. deflected
    EthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores Gerstein and pivots to Duffy and Wright instead.On the contrary, here are the facts: Mr. Duffy accepted a payment from Mr. Wright and did not properly report that payment.
  18. answered
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly quotes PCO apology and accepts responsibility for the email delay.We apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused
  19. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to Liberal email issues and quotes report on PMO cooperation instead of addressing PCO delay.However, having said that, on page 21 of the exact same report it says: Rob Staley, legal representative for the PMO, advised my office that he had clear orders from the Prime Minister to provide complete cooperation with the investigation
  20. deflected
    EthicsDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses audit process and senators removed but avoids Gerstein's conduct or PM's confidence.At the same time, the RCMP has indicated in the documents to which the member refers that it is the actions of Nigel Wright and Senator Duffy that are under investigation.
  21. deflected
    Rail TransportationMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked Mr. Jeff Watson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists actions taken but ends by attacking NDP critic instead of addressing the warning letter.Who said that? It was the senior transport critic for the New Democratic Party.
  22. partly answered
    Rail TransportationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Mr. Jeff Watson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes ongoing independent investigation but does not address whether more could have been done after the warning.Independent investigators are still continuing their investigation.
  23. deflected
    PensionsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites economic concerns and promotes PRPPs without engaging the provincial consensus on CPP.We encourage provinces to move forward with PRPPs, pooled registered pension plans.
  24. deflected
    PensionsMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats that reform is under study and attacks NDP plan rather than offering federal proposals.The NDP's plan to double Canada pension plan premiums when our economy is still fragile is not a moderate proposal.
  25. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes existing funding instead of addressing the call for a national inquiry.we have invested over $62 million since 2007 in local community projects.
  26. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes ribbons and vigils rather than a national action plan.I encourage the NDP members opposite to wear a ribbon, get involved in a community project and ensure they attend a vigil tomorrow evening.
  27. misdirected
    National DefenceMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the premise of the question as false instead of addressing the policy concern.that is completely false and I would ask the hon. member not to alarm those individuals who are thinking of coming forward.
  28. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends existing programs but does not commit to new clinics or specialists.I do not know how the member has completely missed what has taken place over the last couple of years, such as the inauguration of the joint personnel support unit
  29. answered
    National DefenceMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly confirms outreach and lists the 24-7 helpline.In fact, just last night the Chief of the Defence Staff made it very clear that help was available to those individuals who were suffering.
  30. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer describes current supports but offers no new future actions.There have been unprecedented investments in health care for individuals.
  31. partly answered
    Natural ResourcesMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Mrs. Kelly Block (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the report and promises engagement but does not commit to acting on recommendations.We will be engaging with aboriginal peoples on this report, as well as provinces and industry, to identify the most promising avenues for meaningful follow-up.
  32. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mrs. Kelly Block (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states only that recommendations will be reviewed without indicating action.our government will thoroughly review the recommendations before making any decisions on next steps.
  33. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses monitoring and future inspection but provides no specific immediate plan or timeline for remediation.Based on these most recent reports, we will be conducting another visual inspection and taking the necessary action as soon as possible.
  34. answered
    Search and RescueMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states the condition under which consolidation will not proceed.We are not proceeding with the consolidation of the marine rescue sub-Centre in Quebec until we are fully confident there is a sufficient bilingual capacity at the JRCC Trenton and Halifax centres.
  35. deflected
    International TradeMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids specifics on cheese compensation by attacking NDP and shifting to pork benefits and general assurances.I would encourage the member to think about the pork farmers of Quebec who will benefit greatly from the Canada-European trade agreement.
  36. answered
    Natural ResourcesMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Explicitly affirms constitutional obligations and links them to consultation and participation efforts.of course we recognize our constitutional obligations.
  37. deflected
    Business of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the time allocation criticism and instead highlights opposition obstruction before listing the schedule.That did help us to advance the process, notwithstanding the clear efforts by the opposition to obstruct at every stage our very important economic action measures for the benefit of Canada's economy