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Friday, November 22, 2013 · sitting No. 22
Commons advances drug-free prisons bill amid ethics clashes in question period
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to government orders on the Drug-Free Prisons Act. Conservative MP Roxanne James said the bill would give the Parole Board of Canada new tools to keep prisoners drug-free inside institutions and on parole. NDP MP Randall Garrison countered that testing alone fails to address addiction and noted a wait list of 3,000 inmates for treatment programs.
Question period focused on the Senate expenses affair. NDP MP Nycole Turmel asked why the Prime Minister authorized repayment arrangements for Senator Mike Duffy. Conservative MP Paul Calandra replied that the Prime Minister had insisted Senator Duffy repay expenses he did not incur and that the Conservative Party never approved payment of the senator's obligations.
Further exchanges in question period touched on first nations education funding and automotive pricing. NDP MP Romeo Saganash pressed the government to increase spending on reserve schools while Conservative MP Paul Calandra defended the record of the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs. Liberal MP Judy Sgro raised the $10,000 price gap for Canadian-made vehicles sold north of the border.
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Who held the floor · 2013-11-22
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Aboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Jean Crowder asked why the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs had not withdrawn proposed education legislation opposed by first nations educators in British Columbia, Ontario and Quebec.
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NDP MP Pierre Nantel demanded contingency plans if the Champlain Bridge must close before its replacement opens in 2021.
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Conservative MP Brent Rathgeber urged the government to support lowering the salary disclosure threshold in Bill C-461 to the level of a member of Parliament.
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Conservative MP Bob Zimmer asked the Minister of State for Multiculturalism to explain the importance of remembering the Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.
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- deflectedEthicsMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the PM's demand for repayment but avoids explaining any need for authorization.
Senator Duffy, right to the end, was trying to justify these inappropriate expenses.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies approval of the 32k plan but does not address awareness of the 90k plan.
as the Prime Minister responded in this House yesterday, he did no such thing.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses a convention announcement instead of what Gerstein said to the Prime Minister.
I think Senator Gerstein made an announcement at our convention that the Conservative Party would not pay the $90,000
- deflectedEthicsMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reiterates repayment instructions and cites page 72 but sidesteps the authorization question.
the Prime Minister did not know of the arrangement between Nigel Wright and Senator Duffy.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on repayment orders and later RCMP cooperation but ignores residency awareness.
on February 13, the Prime Minister was very clear to Senator Duffy when he was approached by the senator to try to justify his inappropriate expenses.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's framing and pivots to unrelated government achievements abroad.
The Prime Minister , as we know, was in Lac-Mégantic yesterday making a very important announcement with respect to funds to assist the people of Lac-Mégantic.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing the Liberal leader's policies instead of addressing the staffer's continued employment.
what is scary is that the leader of the Liberal Party would go to an elementary school and talk about legalizing marijuana.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberal candidates and policies rather than responding about Jenni Byrne's knowledge or role.
They do not need a Toronto Liberal telling them that legalizing marijuana is the most important thing that this government should be looking at.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question on Gerstein by restating facts about Duffy and Wright while praising the PM.
That is a sign of real leadership.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP instead of addressing consequences for Gerstein.
If he lives by that standard, I guess all 101 members of the NDP caucus should resign, in light of the fact that they accepted $340,000 in illegal campaign donations from their union friends.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the question on PMO involvement by emphasizing PM cooperation with RCMP.
PMO employees have all provided privacy waivers through their legal counsel.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior points about May 15 discovery without addressing the specific plan or PM knowledge.
As soon as the Prime Minister found out on May 15, as I have just said, and as stated on page 21 of the report, the Prime Minister took immediate action, showed incredible leadership, and ensured that his office assisted the RCMP to get to the bottom of this.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question on Perrin and redirects to documents showing PM had no knowledge.
I would also refer him to page 72, where it is quite clearly stated by the RCMP that the Prime Minister had no knowledge of this agreement between Senator Duffy and Nigel Wright.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the Gerstein question by generalizing about advice given to MPs.
With respect to reports, I think all members of Parliament, on both sides of the House, are routinely given advice by different people.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Tarik Brahmi (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question on PM knowledge of the amount by restating that PM did not know of the plan.
again, the documents quite clearly state that the Prime Minister did not know that this plan had been hatched by Nigel Wright and Senator Duffy.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Tarik Brahmi (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to PM cooperation with RCMP instead of addressing whether PM was informed of objections.
What the documents show, on page 21, is the level of assistance the Prime Minister Office's did offer.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to PM's February 13 conversation and other senators instead of addressing whether LeBreton informed the PM.
The Prime Minister told him he had to repay those expenses back and that if he did not, he could not expect the support of this caucus going forward.
- misdirectedEthicsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to ridings and vote counts while only briefly noting Treasury Board rules without naming who deleted the emails.
I note that there are some 42,000 people in my riding who voted for me to come here to represent them.
- misdirectedEthicsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the Law Society question entirely and instead jokes about football teams and personal feelings.
I thought the hon. gentleman liked me. I am hurt to hear that somehow we have had a change in our relationship.
- deflectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates that the PM did not know and contrasts with Liberals rather than confirming whether staff lied.
The Prime Minister has said on a number of occasions that had he known he would have in no way allowed this to happen.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refers only to existing Treasury Board rules without acknowledging whether rules were broken by deleting emails.
I would refer the hon. gentleman to Treasury Board Secretariat rules with respect to how emails of employees who are departing offices are dealt with.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alain Giguère (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites rules but does not address whether deletion shows lack of RCMP cooperation.
Those rules are set by Parliament and enforced by the Treasury Board Secretariat with respect to how emails of departing employees are handled and managed.
- deflectedEthicsMr. José Nunez-Melo (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats that rules were followed by public servants without confirming full cooperation or rule-breaking.
Those rules were followed. Those rules are undertaken by the Treasury Board Secretariat.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again points only to Treasury Board guidelines without identifying who deleted the emails.
as I have said, documents upon the departure of staff are managed according to rules included in the Treasury Board guidelines.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the investment question and pivots to unrelated Senate matter and general praise.
However, when it comes to investing in aboriginal communities, I think the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs has shown extraordinary leadership on this file.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP for not supporting a bill instead of addressing chronic underfunding directly.
he should convince his leader and the members of his party to support the bill on education for first nations children.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states no decision made and ongoing consultations but does not commit to working with educators as asked.
We are in the process of consultation with first nation and provincial stakeholders to determine the best way of ensuring we meet the challenges of youth on reserve.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses funding concerns by attacking NDP and Liberals rather than committing to equitable funding.
I indicated clearly that currently we have a system where the NDP and the tax-and-spend Liberals would have us throw more money at a problem that is failing the students on reserve year after year.
- deflectedAutomotive IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids car price disparity and instead highlights unrelated sales figures and past NDP votes.
That is exactly why we recently renewed the automotive innovation fund, which the NDP voted against.
- misdirectedAutomotive IndustryJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal tax and drug policies instead of addressing the $10,000 price gap for Canadian cars.
What is the Liberal solution to this? It is to raise the GST back up like they did before and then generate more tax revenue through the sale of illegal drugs.
- partly answeredChamplain BridgeMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mentions past maintenance spending but provides no contingency plans for full shutdown.
That is why we undertook major renovations, injecting $380 million in maintenance work, to ensure that the existing bridge is safe until the new bridge opens.
- deflectedChamplain BridgeMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer blames NDP voting record instead of addressing urgency of contingency planning with municipalities.
we do not need lectures from a party that has always opposed investments for repairs.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMs. Yvonne Jones (Liberal) asked Mr. Jeff Watson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims action was taken on recommendations but does not address the specific recommendation for a transportation safety board.
Transport Canada reviewed the Transportation Safety Board report and our government has taken action to address the recommendations.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states a review is underway without addressing the claim of refusing measures or explaining why.
we are currently reviewing the environmental assessment report submitted by the Mackenzie Valley Review Board.
- misdirectedAir TransportationMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promises to get back later and pivots to health and safety instead of addressing job relocations or Air Canada compliance.
As a government, our commitment is to the health and safety of all Canadians in all workplaces.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Ms. Roxanne James (Conservative). loaded question.The answer affirms accepting a court decision and general safety measures without addressing data transfer to Quebec or alleged censorship.
we accept the decision of the Supreme Court.
- misdirectedPublic Service of CanadaMr. Brent Rathgeber (Independent) asked Mr. Bob Dechert (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks opposition voting records and claims existing disclosures instead of stating a position on the proposed salary threshold amendments.
let us not forget the NDP and the Liberals voted against this legislation in the first place.