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Wednesday, October 30, 2013 · sitting No. 11
Opposition grills Harper on Wright exit during ethics questions
Oral questions on ethics consumed the largest share of the sitting. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on whether Nigel Wright resigned or was dismissed from the Prime Minister's Office and on the number of legal cheques issued to secure Mike Duffy's silence.
Harper replied that Wright's actions were inappropriate and that he is no longer on the public payroll. He added that Duffy should face the same consequence.
The House also spent substantial time on second reading of Bill C-7, the Canadian Museum of History Act, with members debating the scope of the new institution and its impact on regional museums.
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National Defence
Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis and NDP MP Jack Harris questioned Minister of National Defence Rob Nicholson over the release of injured Corporal David Hawkins before he qualified for a pension; Nicholson said members are not released until a transition plan is complete.
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NDP MPs David Christopherson and Chris Charlton asked Industry Minister James Moore what action the government would take after U.S. Steel closed the blast furnace at Stelco in Hamilton; Moore said production would continue and noted NDP opposition to pipelines.
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Conservative MP Tilly O'Neill Gordon asked Minister of the Environment Leona Aglukkaq to comment on Anthony Bourdain's defence of the seal hunt; Aglukkaq thanked the chef and invited him to Nunavut.
Read the exchangeCanadian Museum of History Act
Conservative MP Rick Dykstra said the bill would allow small museums across Canada to participate more meaningfully; NDP MP Dennis Bevington replied that federal funding cuts had already hurt regional museums.
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- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids stating resign or dismissed and pivots to attacking Duffy instead.
Obviously when things like this happen, we would expect the other side of the transaction, Mr. Duffy, to do the same.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats that Wright is gone but never clarifies resign versus dismissed.
Mr. Wright's actions are unacceptable and that is why he is no longer working for me.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the premise and shifts to general party practices rather than addressing the specific cheques.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates the repayment expectation and attacks the NDP instead of addressing whether the deal was a valid expense.
The member can confirm it is the case that his political party has on a number of occasions provided him with substantial legal assistance.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the Nelligan firm query and attacks the NDP leader's past legal costs.
it even paid findings of wrongdoing against him by a court of law.
- misdirectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberals and changes subject to Senate expulsion instead of addressing when the Prime Minister learned of the lie.
The Liberals are trying to make victims out of these three senators and disgraced Liberal senator Mac Harb.
- deflectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates Wright's responsibility and pivots to pipelines and the economy.
While the Liberal leader is talking about pipes in his token role as Liberal leader, we are talking about pipelines.
- misdirectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the pattern question and tells an unrelated story about his daughters' allowance.
If my five-year-old and seven-year-old can figure this out, how is it that these senators cannot figure
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the question on Duffy payments and instead attacks Mulcair's own legal expenses.
If the Leader of the Opposition thinks this is a problem, why would he have his party not only pay his legal expenses but even pay nearly $100,000 of wrongdoing damages imposed by a court of law?
- partly answeredEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the PM's position on repayment but does not address the negotiation details during the month in question.
My understanding, the understanding of this caucus and the entire Canadian public, was that Mr. Duffy had indeed repaid those expenses himself.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids the question on who knew about the deal and pivots to attacking Mulcair's court damages.
I wonder how many members of the NDP are aware that this party leader not only claims expenses for court cases he loses but also expects his political party to actually pay, for him, the damages imposed by a court of law.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims the question was answered but shifts to criticizing Mulcair for changing his story without addressing the approval of legal bills.
What is not, of course, being answered is why in fact the Leader of the Opposition keeps changing his own story.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes uncertainty about the question and pivots to Senate motion without addressing the guarantee offered to Duffy.
I am not quite sure what the question is there.
- partly answeredEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses Senate independence but does not confirm or deny any PMO guarantee to Duffy.
as I think has been illustrated many times, the Senate makes its own decisions in these matters.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer clarifies the committee involved but avoids addressing the email evidence of control from the PMO.
the Senate committee that the member refers to was the committee of Senator Tkachuk, not Senator LeBreton, who was the government leader in the Senate.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Mulcair for making unsubstantiated allegations instead of comparing the two senators' expense claims.
It is really interesting to see the comportment of this particular individual, making allegations without any substantiation against some individuals, against some senators.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner and his party instead of addressing the Senate appointment question.
If the leader of the NDP thinks it is so inappropriate for a political party to assist its members with financial expenses, why would he not pay back those expenses to his party?
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking Liberals and NDP for defending senators rather than explaining selective legal fee payments.
Here again go the Liberals, with their partners the New Democrats, trying to defend these three senators and disgraced Liberal senator Mac Harb, because they took money from the Canadian taxpayers.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the legal fees and PMO involvement question by telling an unrelated personal story and pivoting to a motion.
One of the first things I taught my daughters when they could speak was their address, so that if they got lost, they would know to tell the police or anybody where they lived.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberals for defending senators instead of addressing the legal fees payment or PM testimony request.
only the Liberals would stand up for three senators and disgraced Liberal senator Mac Harb, who have admitted they took money that they actually did not earn.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the contradiction about apologies and deals, instead repeating the call for a suspension motion.
We are very clear: These senators accepted payments that they did not earn.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer sidesteps the PMO contact question by restating the expenses issue and mocking the NDP.
As I said yesterday, if Eugene can figure it out, and if my daughters Natalie and Olivia can figure it out, surely the NDP members can hear what all Canadians are saying
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks the questioner and Duffy instead of clarifying the law firms' roles in the affair.
Somehow he was forced on the ground to accept $90,000 in expenses that he did not earn.
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's leader over an unrelated past bribe allegation instead of addressing health benefits or removal terms.
How awkward it must be for her to ask that question when it was her leader who 17 years ago was offered a bribe, decided to hide that and cover it up for 17 years.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to Senate accountability instead of clarifying the versions of Wright's departure.
However, we also have an opportunity now to expect accountability from our senators, those senators who accepted funds that they were not entitled to.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the timeline question by directing to external documents without explanation.
Mr. Speaker, as I did on Monday, I would refer the hon. member to affidavits that were filed in court.
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question and attacks the NDP leader's statements instead.
Really, Mr. Speaker, the only person changing the story is the Leader of the Opposition who actually said at one point that he did not get a bribe, or he did get a bribe.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's Senate position rather than addressing the Prime Minister's actions on the scandal.
the NDP does not want to abolish the Senate.
- partly answeredNational DefenceJim Karygiannis (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the general transition process but does not address reinstating the specific individual.
Ill and injured Canadian Forces members are provided with physical, mental and occupational therapy services for their eventual transition to civilian life.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer corrects facts briefly then pivots to attacking the opposition's record on veterans.
It is pretty hypocritical coming from the member, when his party did nothing to help veterans in the country.
- deflectedSteel IndustryMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the premise and shifts to criticizing NDP pipeline policy instead of outlining government action.
The NDP comes before the House and says no pipelines to British Columbia, no Keystone XL pipelines, and then comes before the House again and asks what is happening to all the jobs in steel manufacturing.
- deflectedSteel IndustryMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the facts and attacks NDP pipeline stance rather than committing to action against U.S. Steel.
Again, we have the NDP leader and an NDP environment critic going to Washington, D.C., saying not to approve Keystone, do not approve the Enbridge line, do not approve the Kinder Morgan pipeline, have no more pipelines, and yet those steel pipelines are actually manufactured in Hamilton and Hamiltonians are losing their jobs.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Directly denies government payment but omits any mention of the Conservative Party.
Mr. Speaker, no, the Government of Canada has not paid his legal fees.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Corrects the premise and states the transition process has not changed.
Before being released, members of the Canadian Armed Forces work with the military on a transition plan.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Francine Raynault (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks the member for lack of prior notice instead of addressing the funding request.
if the member were even remotely serious about the problem she is referring to, she could have at least had the decency to inform me personally or to inform my office, which she did not do.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). loaded question.Restates general principles and shifts to calling on opposition rather than addressing personal responsibility.
What do Canadians expect for that? They expect that we will do our best and that we will be honest in our dealings.