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Thursday, June 13, 2013 · sitting No. 269
House debates time allocation on contraband tobacco bill
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to government orders on Bill S-16, an act to amend the Criminal Code concerning trafficking in contraband tobacco. Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a motion to allocate no more than one further sitting day to second reading, prompting immediate objections from opposition members who described the step as the 48th use of time allocation.
Justice minister Rob Nicholson defended the measure by noting the government's broader justice agenda and said discussions had already taken place on the number of speeches. New Democratic Party members countered that the government was arbitrarily limiting debate and preventing elected members from representing their constituents.
Decided that day
- Bill S-16 passed a stage
- Bills C-534, C-535 and C-536 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2013-06-13
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Other moments
Ethics
Conservative MP James Moore told the House that NDP leader Thomas Mulcair ran through five stop signs, refused an RCMP request to pull over, and asked an officer whether she knew who he was.
Read the exchangeParliamentary Budget Officer
NDP MP Pat Martin accused the government of trying to sabotage the selection committee for a new parliamentary budget officer to ensure a compliant appointee, a claim government House leader Peter Van Loan rejected as unfounded.
Read the exchangeCanadian Heritage
NDP MP Andrew Cash asked Canadian Heritage minister James Moore whether he or his staff had discussed the cancellation of a Victorian underwear exhibit at the Canadian Museum of Civilization; Moore replied that neither he nor his staff had any involvement.
Read the exchangeRegional Economic Development
NDP MP Claude Gravelle pressed Northern Development minister Greg Rickford on the suspension of the Ring of Fire mining project, saying Conservative inaction had left first nations and local communities without clear rules; Rickford said the government continues to work with stakeholders.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
NDP MP Paul Dewar asked why the government had not returned to the bargaining table with foreign service officers who have worked without a contract for two years; Conservative MP Andrew Saxton said the offer on the table is fair to both employees and taxpayers.
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- misdirectedEthicsMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the cheque question entirely and attacks the NDP leader over an unrelated traffic incident.
From not paying their taxes to not pulling over for the RCMP, why is it that the New Democrats think they are above the law?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids any discussion of evidence for the cheque and instead attacks the NDP leader's temperament and law-breaking.
Again, the simple answer to the member opposite's question is that if the NDP believes in accountability and responsibility, the leader should show up in the House and explain himself and why he broke the law today.
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer changes the subject to the NDP's opposition to a street racing bill and attacks the NDP leader instead of addressing the cheque.
On matters like this, it really would be appropriate for the leader of the NDP to show up and explain why he broke the law.
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims questions are taken seriously but pivots to attacking the NDP leader over an RCMP stop rather than discussing the cheque or PMO actions.
That is very important. Again, if the NDP believes that it is appropriate for the leader of the NDP to break the laws of Parliament Hill, to not pull over when an RCMP asks him to, and, when an RCMP gets in his face, to actually ask, "Do you know who I am?"
- misdirectedEthicsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer briefly notes the Ethics Commissioner's independence but immediately shifts to attacking the NDP leader's punctuality and law-breaking.
but what is equally important for the NDP members, if they want to be so self-righteous, as they are every day, about the importance of following the rules, respecting the law and demonstrating leadership by example, it would be great if the leader of the NDP would actually show up in Parliament.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer offers a brief statement on the cheque being personal then diverts to attacking the Liberal leader over Senator Mac Harb.
However, we have a real question for the leader of the Liberal party concerning Senator Mac Harb.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges RCMP independence but immediately attacks the Liberal leader over Senator Mac Harb instead of addressing the Criminal Code sections.
Indeed, Liberal Senator Mac Harb took $231,000.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the RCMP is independent then pivots to attacking the Liberal Party over Senator Mac Harb's expenses.
Just as the Liberal Party can only answer the questions that taxpayers have about the money that was taken from them and given to their friends, the Liberal senators.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses accountability in general but pivots to attacking the NDP leader rather than government actions on senators.
It is also why we, as a House, should be asking and getting serious answers from the NDP about why the NDP leader thinks he can flaunt the law, confront RCMP officers, ignore them when they try to pull him over and then not show up in the House of Commons to be accountable.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on the PMO cheque and instead attacks the NDP leader's traffic incident.
Is the leader of the NDP being investigated for running five stop signs?
- answeredEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states it was a personal cheque and notes the RCMP's independent role.
we have already answered these questions very clearly: it was a personal cheque.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references an ongoing process but immediately shifts to criticizing the NDP leader's conduct.
It is not the Conservative leader who behaves that way on Parliament Hill.
- partly answeredEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains lack of access to the personal cheque and ongoing RCMP review but does not fully resolve how certainty is maintained.
The government did not have access to a personal cheque written by Mr. Wright.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers questions to the RCMP and pivots to lecturing the NDP leader on respect for police.
The NDP leader should show us how he plans to respect the RCMP.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the commitment to legislation but immediately attacks the NDP on unrelated legal issues.
Will the New Democrats actually follow those laws?
- answeredDemocratic ReformMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the timeline for legislation and references required reports and commitments.
We committed to introducing legislation and we will introduce that legislation.
- misdirectedParliamentary Budget OfficerMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the appointment process question and instead attacks the NDP on unrelated law-respecting grounds.
We are looking forward to the time when the NDP actually demonstrates a similar interest in respecting and following the law.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots entirely to attacking Liberals on unrelated expense issues instead of addressing Conservative overspending compliance.
We have at least two Liberal MPs who billed false housing expenses so they could fill their pockets with taxpayer money illegally.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal leadership candidates on loans rather than addressing the question about Conservative compliance with election laws.
That is in sharp contrast to the Liberal leadership candidates who have half a million dollars in past due loans that have become illegal donations.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to attacking the Liberal leader on expenses and speeches instead of responding to the question on Conservative election overspending.
It is his leader who said that he would welcome with open arms a Liberal senator who stole almost one-quarter million dollars in expenses from the Canadian taxpayer.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the government's offer and criticizes the union without addressing when or if negotiations will resume.
It is unfortunate that the union is attempting to take out its labour demands on Canadians.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats the same talking points on the offer and union actions without addressing good-faith negotiation or equal pay.
It is unfortunate that the union is taking out its labour demands on Canadians.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.Answer confirms negotiations are ongoing and not timetable-driven but does not identify which sectors might bear costs from compromises.
We continue to negotiate in good faith, and both sides continue to move closer together.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids naming affected sectors and instead lists generic negotiation principles without addressing the concessions raised.
We will only sign an agreement that is in the best interests of all Canadians.
- answeredCanadian HeritageMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The minister directly denied any conversations as asked.
the answer is no. Neither I nor anybody on my staff had any comments or discussions with the Museum of Civilization on its exhibit on underwear.
- misdirectedCanadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is a rhetorical attack and the answer pivots to criticizing the NDP and praising the PM instead.
Meanwhile, the Prime Minister of this country is fighting for Canadian jobs in Europe, speaking in the Westminster parliament for the first time since 1944.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about Conservative violations and instead attacks Liberal finances.
His party is in flagrant violation of election finance laws, as we speak.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer attacks Liberal history and the current leader rather than addressing the question about Conservative rules.
This is the party that still cannot tell us where the missing $40 million has gone, that has half a million dollars in illegal leadership debt
- deflectedRegional Economic DevelopmentMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.The answer begins with an ironic jab at the NDP before stating general commitment without specifics on action.
today, there is something really ironic about an NDP member talking about following clear rules.
- misdirectedRegional Economic DevelopmentMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends government actions but ends by attacking the NDP's voting record instead of outlining fixes.
Every time we try to create better conditions for first nations communities, the NDP members consistently vote against those and make those challenges even more difficult.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms monitoring and containment but does not specify next steps for oil removal.
A program of containment and remediation is under way.
- deflectedAir TransportationMr. Dany Morin (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states decisions are non-political and criteria-based without addressing the timeline or project status.
the decisions that are made by CBSA officers and administration are not made by politicians.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMr. Marc-André Morin (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists Service Canada access methods but never addresses enacting legislation for universal high-speed Internet.
We provide service across Canada.
- deflectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Claude Patry (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites existing constitutional agreements but does not explain the refusal to transfer funds or any change in openness.
We respect the Constitution of Canada and we signed administrative agreements with the Government of Quebec a few years ago regarding the management of this money.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mrs. Susan Truppe (Conservative). substantive question.The response raises an unrelated point of order about an RCMP remark instead of addressing the Elections Canada compliance query.
Did he say in his statement that the female RCMP officer who puts her life on the line every single day was a meter maid?
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer enumerates bills passed but does not address the criticism of time allocation or Senate-sourced legislation.
In just the last five days, thanks to a lot of members of Parliament who have been here sitting late at night, working until past midnight, we have accomplished a lot.