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Monday, May 27, 2013 · sitting No. 256
Time allocation imposed on mental disorder bill as Senate scandal dominates question period
The House devoted the largest share of the sitting to debate on Bill C-54, the Not Criminally Responsible Reform Act. Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a motion to allot no more than five further hours to second reading, after which all questions would be put. Opposition members including NDP MP Françoise Boivin and Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux criticized the repeated use of time allocation.
In question period the main exchanges concerned the Senate scandal. NDP leader Thomas Mulcair asked whether the Prime Minister knew of a $90,000 payment from his former chief of staff to Senator Mike Duffy. Conservative MP James Moore replied that the government was advancing Senate reform legislation and urged the opposition to support it.
Liberal leader Justin Trudeau raised a court ruling on election fraud involving the Conservative database, accusing the government of blocking proceedings. Conservative MP James Moore countered that western Canadians had rejected the Liberals in recent elections and pointed to the Liberal leader's remarks on Alberta's influence.
Decided that day
- Bill C-54 passed
- Bill C-48 passed
- Bill S-2 passed
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Who held the floor · 2013-05-27
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Read the exchangeNational Defence
NDP leader Thomas Mulcair asked whether the FBI, not CSIS, informed the RCMP of Jeffrey Delisle's espionage; Public Safety Minister Vic Toews called the story's conclusions incorrect.
Read the exchangeMembers of the New Democratic Party
Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said NDP MPs in Jeanne-Le Ber and Brossard—La Prairie owe Revenu Québec tens of thousands in unpaid taxes.
Read the exchangeCitizenship and Immigration
NDP MP Jinny Jogindera Sims questioned the cost of Immigration Minister Jason Kenney's trip to California to promote skilled-worker immigration while domestic unemployment among immigrants remains high.
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- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the $90k payout question and pivots to Senate reform legislation.
If the Leader of the Opposition genuinely supports meaningful Senate reform, he should say so and support this bill today.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids accountability on the payout and instead attacks NDP tax issues.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer sidesteps the payout and truth questions by repeating Senate reform talking points and attacking NDP.
Again, if the NDP members believe in accountability, they will support these reforms.
- misdirectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the CSIS-RCMP question as incorrect and pivots to attacking NDP taxes.
Speaking of Canadian law, I am wondering how many NDP MPs have not paid their taxes.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refuses to confirm FBI vs CSIS details and restates prior deflection without new information.
My office does not get involved in investigative matters, but the conclusions that were drawn in that story are totally incorrect.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes ongoing reviews but then attacks Trudeau on Senate reform instead of addressing the motion.
For the Liberal leader, it is kind of interesting to see him stand in the House and pretend as though he actually cares about Senate reform because he does not.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the election fraud ruling and instead attacks Trudeau and Liberals on western issues.
western Canadians know accountability and they will hold him accountable for what he has been saying.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer denies the premise then pivots to attacking Trudeau's comments on language and the west.
That is the same Liberal leader who said, "Canadians who only have the capacity to speak one of our two official languages are 'lazy'".
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific questions about PMO briefings and instead attacks NDP tax compliance.
it is interesting to have a New Democrat today of all days stand before the House in full sobriety and say that the NDP believes in defending taxpayers.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites Wright acting alone and pivots to Senate reform and NDP taxes rather than addressing PMO involvement.
Nigel Wright made it clear in his statements to the public when he resigned as chief of staff that he acted alone.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer repeats the call for Senate reform legislation without addressing the listed Conservative disappointments or what they knew.
with respect to the Senate, as I just said, Canadians want us to move forward with our plan to reform the Senate.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again states Wright acted alone and redirects to NDP tax issues instead of detailing PM instructions on expenses.
Once again, if my colleague is so keen to prove he is accountable to taxpayers, he should ask his leader to show some leadership and tell us how many NDP MPs are not paying their taxes
- deflectedEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the topic to general accountability and NDP taxes without addressing documents on the $90,000 payment.
On the issue of credibility, defending taxpayers and ensuring that taxpayers' interests are in the best interests of all Canadians, that is the subject before us.
- partly answeredEthicsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states when the PM learned of the situation and notes ongoing investigations, partially addressing the query on knowledge and documents.
as my colleague should know, the Prime Minister learned of this situation when it was reported in the media.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that Wright acted alone without addressing whether Ray Novak was aware of the payment discussions.
Nigel Wright said himself that he acted alone.
- deflectedEthicsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again cites Wright's statement without addressing whether the PM inquired about Novak's involvement before promotion.
as has been made clear in Nigel Wright's statement when he resigned as chief of staff to the Prime Minister
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the Senate abolition question and instead attacks the asker's personal record on lawsuits.
If he believes in actually improving the quality of this place and improving these institutions, perhaps he should walk his talk and avoid as many lawsuits as he has seen over the past few years.
- deflectedEthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the natural justice issue about senators judging their own report changes by pivoting to Liberal committee members and an outside auditor.
as I understand, again, the opposition parties agreed with the government that there should be an independent outside auditor brought in to look at this matter.
- deflectedEthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the premise but then redirects to other bodies like the Ethics Commissioner instead of addressing the self-judgment question.
If the member opposite does not like that, then he can look to the Ethics Commissioner who is also examining this as well as the Senate ethics office, who are looking at this matter to answer these questions.
- deflectedEthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the authority question by attacking Liberal senators for not filing a dissent rather than addressing the Ethics Commissioner's scope.
if it against natural justice, where was the Liberal senators' dissenting report?
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to address the information-sharing failure or fixes by citing inability to comment on operational matters and calling the claims incorrect.
I cannot comment on operational matters of national security.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the communication failure or preventive steps by stating conclusions are incorrect and disclaiming involvement in operations.
I do not involve myself in operational matters of national security.
- partly answered41st General ElectionMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the court ruling on evidence but ignores the question about delaying reforms to the Canada Elections Act.
The judge in question said that there is no evidence that the Conservative Party or Conservative Party candidates were directly involved in the campaign to mislead voters.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking the NDP on union donations and Elections Canada errors instead of addressing delays in strengthening investigative powers.
We know the NDP accepted hundreds of thousands dollars in illegal union donations.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates merit process without addressing patronage accusations.
our government has made appointments based on merit.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats merit claim and ignores illegal donations and rule-breaking.
our government makes appointments based on merit.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP immigration levels instead of addressing the California trip expense.
now we see the bizarreness of NDP immigration policy.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to NDP policy critique rather than justifying the promotional expense.
the NDP's position is very bizarre.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking the NDP leader on Senate reform instead of addressing the database fraud.
That member over there should perhaps answer what his leader failed to do so.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer quotes judgment then redirects to NDP leader's Senate stance.
Why is her leader becoming the number one cheerleader for the existing status quo in the Senate
- deflectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids PMO contact question by pivoting to Senate reform.
Nigel Wright said that he acted alone, and the Prime Minister has been very clear about the need for all parliamentarians to show leadership on the issue of Senate reform
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP members on taxes instead of addressing when police were called.
I will not take lessons from New Democrats when it comes to showing leadership and defending taxpayers, when members of their own party refuse to pay taxes
- misdirectedEthicsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about the PM and instead attacks Liberals on unrelated expenses.
perhaps the Ethics Commissioner should also look into the matter the Liberals seem to want to also move away from, which is the very matter of three Liberal members of Parliament ripping off taxpayers to the tune of $175,000 in falsely claimed expenses.
- partly answeredLabourMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the issue and states that officials are reviewing it but offers no immediate action or commitment.
I have asked my labour officials to look at this very closely.
- deflectedTourism IndustryMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the tourism strategy and an upcoming report instead of addressing the specific requests for funding increases.
We will soon be releasing a public report on the first year of the strategy's implementation.
- deflectedTourism IndustryMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the criticism of spending priorities and instead highlights general tourism metrics and advertising efforts.
hotel occupancy rates increased considerably last year compared to the previous year.
- partly answeredTelecommunicationsMr. Bruce Hyer (Independent) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends existing policies and cites price drops but does not address reserving spectrum or blocking sales to the big three.
Just recently, we learned from a Wall Communications report that prices went down an average of 11%.