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Thursday, May 9, 2013 · sitting No. 250
NDP motion seeks documents on $3.1 billion in untracked funds
New Democrat MP Mathieu Ravignat moved a supply motion that called for all Public Security and Anti-Terrorism annual reports, Treasury Board submissions and departmental evaluations from 2001 onward to be tabled so Parliament could trace the $3.1 billion the Auditor General said had gone unaccounted for in the initiative. The motion, which occupied 76 per cent of the sitting, remained before the House at adjournment.
In Question Period, NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper to support the motion and release the records. Harper replied that the Auditor General had found no evidence of improper spending and that the government would implement the report's recommendations on future reporting.
Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc and NDP MP Charlie Angus also raised the government's $2.5 million media-monitoring contract that tracked Conservative backbenchers, while Mulcair questioned the handling of Jane Kittmer's denied employment-insurance sick-leave claim.
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Ethics
NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair said the Senate's own audit showed Mike Duffy does not maintain a primary residence in Prince Edward Island, violating the constitutional residency requirement for senators from that province. Prime Minister Stephen Harper answered that an independent auditor had found the rules unclear and that the Senate had required repayment of the disputed amounts.
Read the exchangeExperimental Lakes Area
Conservative MP Greg Rickford announced that the government had signed a memorandum of understanding with the International Institute for Sustainable Development to assume operation of the Experimental Lakes Area facility and to support research through the summer transition period.
Read the exchangeSearch and Rescue
NDP MP Annick Papillon asked Fisheries and Oceans Minister Keith Ashfield to confirm that the Quebec City marine rescue sub-centre would remain open and would not be consolidated with centres in Halifax, Trenton or Montreal. Ashfield replied that the Coast Guard would delay any consolidation until bilingual capacity was assured.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Jean Crowder said the government was appealing a Federal Court ruling that would require it to apply Jordan's principle to a severely disabled teenager from the Pictou Landing reserve. Conservative MP Greg Rickford replied that the appeal was needed to ensure cases are handled according to provincial standards.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
NDP MP David Christopherson asked Environment Minister Peter Kent for an update on the stalled Randle Reef remediation agreement. Kent said Environment Canada was completing implementation agreements with all partners, including the Hamilton Port Authority, to keep the project on schedule.
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- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Rejects the motion by citing the Auditor General rather than addressing document release.
of course, that is not what the Auditor General said at all and that is obviously why we reject the motion.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Rejects the allegation without addressing trust or efforts to locate the funds.
once again, the Auditor General himself has rejected the NDP leader's allegation.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Discusses unclear rules and repayment instead of addressing punishment or deterrence.
external auditors and experts examined all these expenditures and said that the rules were not clear.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Focuses on the auditor's findings on rules rather than residency or fraud claims.
an independent external auditor was brought in to examine all of these expenses.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Notes future law changes and ongoing commitment but does not explain the delay for this case.
the government is committed to addressing and resolving that matter, and we continue to work on that.
- misdirectedEmploymentDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the spying premise and pivots to announcing summer jobs program.
we just today announced the launch of Canada summer jobs 2013.
- misdirectedEmploymentRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the spending critique and lists job creation programs instead.
apart from the Canada summer jobs program that we launched today creating 36,000 jobs for young Canadians, this year alone we are helping 60,000 young people get jobs.
- deflectedStatistics CanadaRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Defends data collection and quality without addressing compensation or census issues.
the survey provides useful and usable data for communities, representing 97% of the Canadian population.
- answeredGovernment ExpendituresMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly addresses the query on tracking and use of funds by citing the Auditor General and public accounts.
We didn't find anything that gave us cause for concern that the money was used in any way it should not have been.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids stating how much has been spent since 2010 by again quoting the Auditor General instead of providing new data.
We didn't identify anything that would cause us to say that we felt that anything was going on outside of these processes.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the claim that funds were not reported in public accounts by restating that they are tabled and quoting the Auditor General.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids specifying when due course will occur and instead repeats Auditor General quotes on controls.
We didn't identify anything that would cause us to say that we felt that anything was going on outside of those processes.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts blame to the former Liberal government and refuses further comment due to court proceedings.
I will leave the characterization of the former Liberal government's actions to the member opposite.
- partly answeredPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the point and agrees on needing more detail in future but does not outline specific current measures.
I agree with the hon. member, and I think we should require this in the future.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to noting opposition also uses the service rather than explaining the expenditure on monitoring MPs.
They are there because on this side of the House, we do want to be aware of all of the media reporting about our members of Parliament
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses Senate accountability actions but does not address the Prime Minister taking responsibility for broader issues raised.
The Senate has already actually taken action to strengthen and improve those rules.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites audits to counter fraud claim and ignores police/documents demand.
They indicated that the rules were not clear.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes unrelated programs and attacks Liberals instead of addressing media monitoring spend.
Unfortunately, the Liberals may bray about it, but they do nothing to actually help young people get jobs
- deflectedEmploymentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists apprenticeship grants but never addresses the $3,300 daily monitoring cost or student job comparison.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal voting record and ignores the monitoring versus student jobs trade-off raised.
That makes it pretty difficult to explain why the Liberals voted against the apprenticeship incentive grant for young people.
- partly answeredSearch and RescueMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms delay of consolidation pending bilingual capacity but does not rule out future changes.
The Canadian Coast Guard will delay consolidation of the eastern portion of the Quebec region until it is confident that a bilingual capacity is there in the system.
- partly answeredSearch and RescueMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats delay for bilingual capacity but avoids explicit yes/no on specific transfer locations.
The Canadian Coast Guard will delay consolidation of the eastern portion of the Quebec region until it is competent in the bilingual capacity of the system.
- answeredSearch and RescueMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the St. John's closure occurred and claims Halifax is handling calls without issue.
we closed the sub-centre in St. John's a year ago, and the facility in Halifax has been handling the work quite well.
- answeredSearch and RescueMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly rebuts the claim with incident response data showing no negative impact.
In fact, since the closure of the Kitsilano base on February 19, the Canadian Coast Guard on Sea Island has responded to 38 search and rescue maritime distress incidents in the greater Vancouver area.
- deflectedStatistics CanadaMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes national-level data quality and privacy without addressing the specific municipal data gaps raised.
The current survey has provided useful and usable data representing 97% of Canada's population.
- deflectedStatistics CanadaMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats national data claims and privacy points while ignoring the request to reverse the policy.
We know the survey provides useful and usable data for communities representing 97% of the Canadian population.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the specific case and notes ongoing review but does not commit to dropping the appeal.
we are looking at ways to successfully resolve this situation.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to general system integrity without addressing the missing funds or double-standard claim.
workers all across Canada expect us to respect the money they pay into the employment insurance system.
- misdirectedDemocratic ReformStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to an Elections Canada audit instead of confirming consultation with the Chief Electoral Officer.
the audit that was recently released by Elections Canada highlights widespread errors in Elections Canada's operations in the last election.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes rule changes for future cases and ongoing review but avoids confirming immediate benefits for the individual.
We are looking for ways to resolve the situation.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the appeal on provincial standards and then attacks the opposition on unrelated legislation.
It is the opposition that should answer for opposing our matrimonial real property rights legislation that would protect aboriginal women and children on reserve.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats commitment to standards and again criticizes the NDP on a separate issue instead of addressing the appeal.
On the matrimonial real property matter, it is time for the NDP to put down its talking points and support the protection of women and children on reserve.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses monitoring but provides no plan for if the leak worsens.
The Canadian Coast Guard will continue to actively monitor the situation and is assessing the best approach for reducing the pollution threat.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states actions to complete agreements and move the project forward.
Environment Canada is leading this project, moving forward aggressively to complete project implementation agreements with all participating organizations, including the port authority, to ensure that this important project continues to move ahead and not establish any schedule issues.
- deflectedTransportationMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids federal plans by shifting blame to provincial jurisdiction and insulting the asker.
My colleague does not understand federal and provincial jurisdictions.
- misdirected1982 Repatriation of the ConstitutionMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the request to open archives and instead attacks the member for wanting separation.
the member obviously wants Quebec to separate from Canada, but we want a strong Quebec within a united Canada.
- misdirectedPresence in GalleryJim Karygiannis (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the substance of the letter and instead corrects terminology while attacking the member.
It is not a province of Russia or the Soviet Union, it is Ukraine.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Provides the agenda but ignores the question about time allocation and the minister's statement.
this afternoon we will continue the debate on today's opposition motion from the NDP.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Refuses to table the letter and instead attacks the member for supporting foreign workers.
He instead wanted to see more foreign workers brought there.