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Monday, March 25, 2013 · sitting No. 228

Budget debate dominates as NDP presses on first nations education gap

Government orders on the budget consumed the largest share of sitting time, with New Democratic members criticizing underfunding of first nations schools and a proposed workfare program for aboriginal youth. NDP MP Romeo Saganash said the 36 per cent graduation rate in first nations communities stems from 30 per cent lower per-student spending than provincial systems. Conservative ministers replied that the budget adds training funds and infrastructure support.

Question period focused on the same themes, with NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asking why Ottawa continues to spend 30 per cent less on first nations education and why infrastructure allocations fall by a billion dollars next year. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird defended the spending record and urged the NDP to support the Canada jobs grant.

Decided that day

  • A proposed sub-amendment to the budget motion failed

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Who held the floor · 2013-03-25

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 47%, opposition 53% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
63Bills creep forward while answers dodgeThe House spent most of its time on the budget and advanced seven bills through various stages, yet Question Period produced few direct answers. A single recorded vote failed and the Speaker issued five calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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BAN ON SHARK FIN IMPORTATION ACT

New Democratic MP Robert Chisholm supported Bill C-380 to ban imports of detached shark fins, calling the practice intolerable. Conservative MP LaVar Payne said the bill is unnecessary because finning has been banned on Canadian vessels since 1994.

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Journey of Nishiyuu

Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett welcomed the Nishiyuu walkers who trekked 1,600 kilometres to Parliament Hill and urged a change in government policy toward first nations. NDP MP Romeo Saganash praised the youths for inspiring aboriginal pride across Canada.

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Employment Insurance

Liberal MP Marc Garneau said the government cancelled a five-week EI extension pilot and spent the same amount on budget advertising instead. Human Resources Minister Diane Finley replied that the pilot did not produce the desired results and is being replaced by training measures.

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Taxation

NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice condemned the budget decision to end the labour-sponsored funds tax credit, calling it an attack on Quebec investment. Conservative MP Maxime Bernier said the credit was not directing enough capital to small businesses.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the specific education spending disparity and pivots to unrelated investments plus a counter-question.The question is this. Will the leader of the NDP do the right thing and stand up and support all these meaningful investments for our first nations?
  2. deflected
    The BudgetThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer evades the inflation-adjusted funding question entirely and launches into partisan attacks on NDP policy.the NDP wants more taxes, higher deficits and more government spending.
  3. misdirected
    The BudgetThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer abandons the PBO and budget cuts topic to attack the questioner personally over Keystone XL.The leader of the NDP went to Washington and said he would not talk about Keystone and would not take a position.
  4. partly answered
    Status of WomenMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms the event occurred but sidesteps the substance of the quoted remark.It was indeed a great day to promote our budget on Friday.
  5. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question as trivial without addressing the alleged disrespect or policy implication.obviously the opposition members have little fault to find in our budget if this is the only type of question they can ask in this House.
  6. misdirected
    Search and RescueMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores search-and-rescue funding and instead praises the absent MP while attacking the third party.Peter Penashue was a great representative for Labrador, a strong voice for economic development and job creation.
  7. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer evades EI and advertising spending to defend the same MP on unrelated economic achievements.He was part of a team that saw the Canadian economy create hundreds of thousands of jobs since the bottom of the economic recession
  8. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to budget process and comparative ad spending rather than fisheries cuts or EI.This government spends $20 million less on advertising than the Liberal government did.
  9. deflected
    InfrastructureMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites external praise instead of addressing the claimed budget cuts or contradiction in numbers.The opposition does not understand this.
  10. misdirected
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the tariff program but ignores the infrastructure funding decrease and honesty about budget impacts.This is actually a foreign aid program that was created back in the 1970s to give special treatment to countries that are developing.
  11. deflected
    TaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's sources rather than reconciling the two contradictory ministerial statements on the tax credit.I am not surprised by what my opposition colleague is saying because, as usual, the NDP believes what it hears from Quebec's big union bosses.
  12. misdirected
    TaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the investment percentage and pivots to a general tax pledge instead of addressing job or small-business impacts in Quebec.It is not 60% of the money that is invested in small business start-ups in Quebec but 11%.
  13. deflected
    Intergovernmental RelationsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the new job grant without addressing provincial training successes or interference concerns.the Canada job grant will help unemployed people and people who are trying to improve their lives.
  14. deflected
    Financial InstitutionsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the tax change by noting credit unions still have the low rate but avoids the lack of consultation or sudden impact.The New Democrats actually do not understand that the credit unions still have access to the lowest small business tax rate out there.
  15. partly answered
    Financial InstitutionsMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the low tax rate remains and references Quebec's prior change but does not address the lack of consultation.we respect the fact that credit unions have actually helped many Canadians and they continue to do that.
  16. deflected
    HealthMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and pivots to past GST cuts instead of addressing hospital parking fees or their effect on patients.I certainly reject the premise of that question.
  17. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes investments instead of addressing the cuts and lack of consultation.economic action plan 2013 contains a number of significant investments to support the development of Canadian fisheries.
  18. answered
    Search and RescueStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the language capability concern raised in the question.of course, before we make any changes in the Quebec office, we will ensure that the language capabilities and the language requirements are there to provide a bilingual service.
  19. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to new programs without addressing the specific pilot project cancellation or ad spending comparison.the pilot project the member is talking about did not deliver the desired results.
  20. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and blames the prior government rather than addressing the ruling or current denials.I reject the premise of that question, for sure.
  21. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the funding claim and pivots to consultations without addressing the administrative costs versus training split.what the member is suggesting is completely false.
  22. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer directly responds by confirming a meeting with the walkers to discuss concerns.I shall be meeting later today with the walkers to discuss with these aboriginal youth about the challenges and also how we can best continue to improve the situation for all aboriginals in Canada.
  23. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly responds by confirming a meeting with the walkers to discuss concerns.I will be meeting with them later today to discuss their concerns and to discuss possible solutions that we can envision in the future.
  24. misdirected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's actions in Washington instead of addressing the call for respect or environmental issues.when we try to do just that, the NDP goes to Washington to say that the mines and forests are a disease.
  25. partly answered
    Regional DevelopmentMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses specific funding claim but pivots to attack on opposition leader.What does the member's leader do? He goes to Washington and talks down the Canadian economy.
  26. deflected
    Regional DevelopmentMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores new funding question and instead criticizes past NDP votes.Every time, the party on the other side of the House voted against that and voted against the interests of northern Ontario.
  27. misdirected
    Regional DevelopmentMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores mining workforce and tax allowance question to attack NDP on resources.Unfortunately, the NDP can see no good in any of this.
  28. misdirected
    Regional DevelopmentMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores specific program complaints to boast about caucus and attack NDP leader.I will put our northern Ontario caucus against the NDP's northern Ontario caucus any day of the week.
  29. partly answered
    Government AdvertisingMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses ad budget decline but adds partisan comparison to Liberals.The last full year of the Liberal government, it had an advertising budget more than $20 million higher than our budget for the same purposes.
  30. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). rhetorical question.Directly responds to meeting question by confirming upcoming meeting with youth.I will be meeting with these aboriginal youth later today.
  31. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores recruitment fund renewal to discuss first nations policing and past opposition.Unfortunately, that member and his party have opposed every single measure we have taken in terms of toughening up our criminal justice system.
  32. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores provincial funding question to note provincial responsibility and past opposition.That party has opposed tougher sentences for sexual assault and has opposed ending house arrest for serious crimes.
  33. partly answered
    Financial InstitutionsMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the tax subsidy change but ignores the accusations of neglect and killing the level playing field.The changes that are being made to credit unions across this country would eliminate an outdated tax subsidy.
  34. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's knowledge of his riding instead of addressing the NCC budget cut question.I am surprised the member of Parliament for Ottawa Centre does not know anything about the largest public event in his own riding that happens every year on Canada Day.
  35. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer clarifies the case arose under prior rules but does not commit to dropping the court action.The case to which the member refers was actually under the previous Liberal government's rules, and we have made tremendous improvements to that system since then.
  36. misdirected
    TaxationMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois rather than addressing the specific tax measures on Quebec investors and caisses.The Bloc Québécois is out of arguments.
  37. answered
    Journey of NishiyuuMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question proposes applause rather than seeking information, and the answer responds by committing to a meeting.We will meet with them and listen to them.