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Tuesday, November 27, 2012 · sitting No. 186

Commons advances First Nations transparency bill amid QP clashes on economy

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on debate of the First Nations Financial Transparency Act. Parliamentary secretary Greg Rickford told members the bill would apply to first nations' first complete financial year after royal assent and would require publication of audited statements within 120 days of fiscal year end.

In question period, NDP MP Libby Davies pressed the prime minister on the governor of the Bank of Canada's departure and on contingency plans for a possible recession. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the government had created 800,000 net new jobs and remained on track to balance the budget in the medium term without tax increases.

Liberal leader Bob Rae asked about pharmaceutical drug coverage for the roughly six million Canadians who lack adequate protection. The prime minister answered that the federal government respects provincial jurisdiction and continues to increase health transfers faster than provincial budgets are growing.

Decided that day

  • One bill passed third reading and do pass
  • C-27 advanced in first chamber
  • S-13 given second reading
  • C-49 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2012-11-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 47%, opposition 53% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Bills Advance Past Dodgy AnswersThe House spent most of its time on the First Nations Financial Transparency Act and passed one bill at third reading while moving two others forward. Question Period produced few direct answers and the Speaker issued several calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Labour

Conservative MP Russ Hiebert said the NDP filibustered for two hours at the finance committee to avoid a vote on amendments to his private member's bill on labour organization transparency.

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Points of Order

Government House leader Peter Van Loan clarified that the finance committee motion invited other committees to consider provisions of Bill C-45 rather than instructing them.

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Citizenship and Immigration

Immigration minister Jason Kenney said the government would continue to provide asylum claimants with the same basic medical services offered to most Canadians and would not match more generous provincial benefits.

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International Trade

NDP MP Don Davies cited a leaked European memorandum showing Canadian concessions on public utilities that the government had not disclosed.

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Public Safety

NDP MP Brian Masse raised reports that Canada Border Services Agency officers had been told to stand down when drugs destined for the United States were discovered leaving Canada.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates government economic policies and job creation without addressing the question about rethinking budget choices or bank criticisms.the policy of this government has been to gradually balance the budget over the medium term, while not raising taxes, as the NDP would like us to do, and while preserving our payments for vital programs like health care, education and pensions for our senior citizens.
  2. misdirected
    The EconomyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the governor's departure instead of tabling any contingency plan for recession.the Governor of the Bank of Canada, who has done a tremendous job and we know will do a tremendous job in a country with much greater difficulties than Canada, has told me he will take up that job in July of next year.
  3. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises the finance minister and opposes NDP tax policies without addressing inconsistent statements or contingency plans.the Minister of Finance has been recognized as probably the best in his job in the entire developed world.
  4. partly answered
    The EconomyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses growth projections but denies need for a contingency plan rather than tabling one.We are not in need of a contingency plan because we are going to continue to grow.
  5. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates job creation and growth metrics while ignoring the question about errors in budget bills and contingency plans.on this side of the House, we are agreed, as we always intended, to balance the budget in the medium term during the course of the current Parliament.
  6. partly answered
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges federal transfers and provincial jurisdiction but does not address drug coverage in a future health accord.as I have said repeatedly, the federal government recognizes the jurisdiction of the provinces over much of the health care system.
  7. deflected
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats federal transfers and provincial jurisdiction without addressing drug coverage or a national program.once again, on this side of the House, we recognize the jurisdiction of the provinces over much of the health care system.
  8. misdirected
    HealthBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks previous Liberal governments instead of addressing rising drug costs or federal involvement.it was previous Liberal governments that imposed certain health care requirements on the provinces, then turned around and cut the funding and refused to fund those very requirements.
  9. deflected
    FinanceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer denies inconsistency but pivots to their overall plan without addressing who is telling the truth.Of course, the member opposite is incorrect, Mr. Speaker.
  10. misdirected
    FinanceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the NDP's record instead of addressing the deficit discrepancy or story inconsistency.This is passing strange coming from the NDP, Mr. Speaker.
  11. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the Doha plan question and restates general emissions targets.Canada will continue working with our international partners in Doha to create a binding new agreement, which will include all major emitters.
  12. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the international cooperation question and promotes their vehicle regulations instead.With regard to the new vehicle tailpipe regulations for model years 2017 to 2025, we will actually reduce emissions between the model years 2008 and 2025 by fully 50%
  13. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the secretariat's role but does not address why an auditor, economist and deputies are defining defence needs.The membership is comprised of the senior deputy ministers in charge of military procurement, in addition to two independent members.
  14. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer assures expertise will be brought in but does not address the listed policy priority questions.I can assure the hon. member, the House and the public that the secretariat will ensure the proper expertise is brought in to review the statement of requirements and to do a full options analysis.
  15. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims 10 of 12 recommendations acted upon but does not explain why documents are withheld from the ombudsman.as I stated last week, 10 of the 12 recommendations made by the ombudsman have been acted upon.
  16. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the implementation count but ignores the request for documents and the ombudsman's role.10 out of 12 does not seem like a spectacular failure to me, and as I indicated, we will be acting on the remaining recommendations.
  17. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner rather than addressing the cooperation issue.It is interesting, coming from the member opposite. I know what he is not, and that is an advocate for the Canadian Forces.
  18. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates government talking points on refugee numbers instead of addressing the specific health care access complaints.the only confusion seems to be coming from that very excitable member.
  19. deflected
    HealthCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to provincial jurisdiction without addressing the federal formulary question.the prescribing of drugs is provincial jurisdiction, so provincial health ministers—
  20. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames the previous government and restates intentions without addressing the cabinet confidentiality claim.that member's righteous indignation would seem a little more sincere if he had fixed it on his watch.
  21. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP and Liberals instead of confirming or denying the Nexen approval plan.On the one hand, we have the radical NDP who would block virtually any kind of transaction in this country; on the other hand, we have the Liberals who would blindly approve anything
  22. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP carbon tax plan rather than addressing the foreign takeover concerns.It is not a responsible approach to try to impose a $21.5 billion carbon tax on the shoulders of Canadians and to have a plan to tax everything.
  23. partly answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the policy rationale for the cuts but does not address the premiers' criticisms or reversal request.we will provide the basic package of hospital and physician medical services to asylum claimants, but not levels that are more generous than what a Canadian can typically get.
  24. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the policy on provincial transfers without addressing the call to reverse the cuts.If, for humanitarian reasons, the provinces want to provide health care to illegal immigrants or to people avoiding deportation, visitors and foreign students, then they have the right to do so.
  25. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to emissions rules and Doha talks rather than Arctic preparedness or the 2007 report.I will be going to Doha to work with like-minded countries to ensure that we create a new climate change regime including all major emitters.
  26. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites budget spending on adaptation but does not address placing climate change on the Arctic Council agenda.NDP members also did not read budget 2011, where our government committed $150 million to adaptation to climate change focused primarily in the north
  27. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states that trap tags remain required for the lobster fishery and explains the new supply method.gear identification tools such as trap tags are still required in fisheries where industry has deemed they are necessary.
  28. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes meetings with fishers and that proposals will be considered but does not commit to the requested one-year transition.The proposals will be considered, and the tags program will be in place.
  29. answered
    FinanceStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the deficit timeline and risk adjustment directly while insulting the questioner's numeracy.the numbers show a deficit within the adjustment for risk in the fiscal year 2015-16 of $1.8 billion
  30. deflected
    FinanceScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates the balance timeline without engaging the election-date or legal-commitment questions.We are on track to balance the budget during the current session of Parliament.
  31. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites overall museum funding and a quote from the Museums Association but ignores the specific Postal Museum closure.The federal government is demonstrating strong support towards Canada's museums and art sector…
  32. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes the new museum mandate and extra funding while attacking the NDP's understanding rather than addressing the unannounced closure.
  33. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the request for a climate plan and instead attacks the prior Liberal government.for 13 long years the previous Liberal government paid only lip service to climate change and then campaigned—
  34. deflected
    Tourism IndustryMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking a carbon tax instead of addressing funding or respect for the historic site.I do not think tourists want to come to Canada to see a $21 billion carbon tax, because that would increase the cost and bring tourism down even further.
  35. partly answered
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the assessment process but does not commit to rejecting the Arctic apple application.any decisions about GM products are subject to a rigorous, science-based assessment process.
  36. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains digitization plans but does not address the copyright barrier or reversal request.Library users are asking for digital information, so it is only logical that Fisheries and Oceans would accommodate that demand by making its collection available in digital format.
  37. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rebuts the concern by clarifying invitation versus instruction and noting NDP agreement.the four members of the New Democratic Party sitting on the finance committee agreed with the process undertaken by the finance committee, extending an invitation, not an instruction, to the other committees.
  38. misdirected
    Points of OrderScott Brison (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses a prior clarification on committee access rather than the NDP voting inconsistency raised.I did want to clarify the answer that I gave yesterday in the House regarding members of the public attending committee meetings, and particularly in the incident relating to the defence committee.
  39. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains that Senate security provided the advice to the chair.my understanding of the incident, and I was not there or involved, was that it was actually Senate security who provided the advice to the chair that the member should not be admitted for whatever reason or history.
  40. misdirected
    Points of OrderScott Brison (Liberal) asked The Speaker (Conservative). substantive question.The provided response is the Speaker ruling on an unrelated written-question point of order rather than the tabling request.I am now prepared to rule on the point of order raised on November 5, 2012 by the hon. member for Westmount—Ville-Marie and the House Leader of the Liberal Party , regarding the nature of an answer given to a written question.