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Friday, November 2, 2012 · sitting No. 175
Commons debates Canada-Panama trade deal at third reading
The House of Commons devoted the largest share of its sitting to third reading of the Canada-Panama Economic Growth and Prosperity Act. International Trade Minister Ed Fast moved the bill be read a third time and described it as part of the government's most ambitious trade plan. New Democrat MP Paul Dewar said the agreement and similar deals would not lift unemployment, which stood at 7 per cent.
In Question Period, New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen asked the government to explain campaign donations accepted by a minister that exceeded legal limits, and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said a new official agent was correcting the return while noting the New Democrats' own past violations. New Democrat MP Rosane Doré Lefebvre pressed Public Safety Minister Candice Bergen on mental-health programming for women offenders after the correctional investigator's report.
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Who held the floor · 2012-11-02
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The Environment
New Democrat MP Jean Crowder said the changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act left important salmon rivers unprotected while shielding lakes in Conservative ridings, and Transport Minister Steven Fletcher replied that the act concerns navigation only.
Read the exchangeForeign Investment
New Democrat MP Peter Julian warned that approval of the Nexen deal would give a Chinese state-owned firm unlimited rights to Canadian resources and expose provinces to lawsuits, and International Trade Minister Ed Fast said every transaction would be judged on net benefit to Canada.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
New Democrat MP Guy Caron said taxpayers would pay up to a billion dollars to repatriate equipment because of the government's dispute with the United Arab Emirates, and Associate Defence Minister Bernard Valcourt said the total mission cost remained 8.7 billion dollars.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
New Democrat MP Yvon Godin asked why KPMG was paid to produce a report that copied an earlier U.S. defence document, and Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said the firm had been hired for an independent audit that would be made public.
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- deflectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific donation allegation and pivots to attacking the NDP's past violations.
For a member of the New Democratic Party, which pocketed $340,000 illegally into its bank account, to make these charges is just simply too rich.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again evades the accountability request by restating the NDP scandal instead of addressing the minister's conduct.
It does not absolve the fact that Elections Canada discovered, under our new finance rules, the biggest campaign fundraising scandal under the new laws brought forward by the New Democratic Party.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies party involvement and shifts blame to a Liberal conviction rather than answering about the leak or Sona.
Obviously, we are all concerned about what took place in the riding of Guelph, which is why we are working with Elections Canada on this important issue.
- deflected41st General ElectionMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims cooperation with Elections Canada but immediately pivots to attacking the NDP's donations instead of confirming details on Prescott.
I find it ironic that the New Democratic Party is rising in the House to condemn these violations of the act, when the NDP accepted $340,000 in illegal union donations.
- deflected41st General ElectionMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the question on investigative powers by again raising the NDP donation issue.
I think what is disturbing to all Canadians is that the NDP accepted $340,000 in illegal donations.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references a new agent but evades the question by attacking Liberal loans instead of explaining the minister's actions.
When will they come clean with Canadians?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberals' record and past scandals rather than addressing the minister's alleged violations or resignation.
the Liberals standing in judgment on campaign finance reform is almost like Colonel Sanders standing in judgment of chickens.
- deflectedEthicsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims an agent is addressing issues but pivots to criticizing Liberal loans instead of explaining the minister's conduct.
I would add that it is the Liberal Party that still has $400,000 in loans that have become illegal donations to the Liberal leadership candidate.
- deflectedCorrectional Service CanadaMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses mental health investments but avoids committing to the specific recommendations mentioned.
Our government has taken concrete steps and CSC has implemented a mental health strategy.
- partly answeredCorrectional Service CanadaMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites specific investments and training but does not address resource allocation or waiting lists directly.
Since 2006, we have invested nearly $90 million in mental health for prisoners, as well as training over 8,000 front-line staff at CSC.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insists the act is only about navigation and ignores the environmental protection premise entirely.
the Navigable Waters Protection Act is an act respecting the protection of the public to navigate.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). loaded question.Answer calls the premise wrong and dismisses the wreck removal concern without engaging the policy change.
the premise of that question is wrong.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains the acts' purposes but sidesteps the partisan distribution and Quebec disparity claim.
Environmental laws protect the environment, including water; the Fisheries Act protects the fisheries; and the Navigable Waters Protection Act protects navigation.
- partly answeredGovernment AccountabilityMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists existing reporting mechanisms but does not confirm provision of the specific cut details requested.
We have given information according to statutory obligations to the House through our quarterly financial reports, estimates and other means.
- misdirectedGovernment AccountabilityMr. Craig Scott (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking the opposition's carbon tax record instead of addressing secrecy or information sharing.
On the other side, the members vote against these things.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer gives the total mission cost figure but does not address the UAE base closure or extra transport costs.
as the Minister of National Defence told the committee of the whole last May, the government expects to invest $8.7 billion in Canada's military commitment to Afghanistan.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly confirms the costs were budgeted within the stated total mission figure.
the Afghanistan mission will cost the defence department a total of $8.7 billion, which includes the cost of bringing home equipment and closing down the mission in Afghanistan.
- answeredCorrectional Service CanadaRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the government has directed full cooperation with the inquest.
Our government has directed the Correctional Service of Canada to fully co-operate with the coroner's inquest.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question about calling others liars and instead attacks the asker and the university.
I call on the member for Wascana to help us get all of the facts from the University of Regina, instead of standing in the House and being political about an issue that we can work with the ministry on.
- answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the premise by stating the rejection was due to criminal record, not orientation.
Mr. Dennie's previous criminal activities were at issue, not his sexual orientation.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question on FIPA risks and instead attacks the NDP's unrelated policies.
What we will not advocate for are the kinds of policies advocated by the members of the NDP who are anti-trade, anti-investment, against the development of natural resources and for a job-killing carbon tax of $21 billion that would be put on the shoulders of Canadians.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the member personally and pivots to unrelated economic talking points.
the louder he speaks, the less worthy he is of an answer.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates existing guidelines but pivots to attacking NDP policy instead of addressing the call for new transparent criteria.
What we will not do is to go with the kinds of policies advocated by the NDP, which would deter any form of investment in this country.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Alain Giguère (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats general criteria but attacks the opposition instead of committing to new clear rules.
What is clear is that the members on other side of the House are against trade, investment and the development of natural resources and support a $21 billion carbon tax that would kill the economy.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific questions about the report's location and payment for existing data.
The report will be made public.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Reiterates the report will be public without addressing the delay or hidden costs.
the report will be made public soon.
- answeredPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly refutes the claim of cost overruns.
The budget approved for this project has not increased.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts blame to the previous government instead of addressing cost management.
these needed renovations are being done because the previous government allowed some of the Parliament buildings to fall into a serious state of disrepair.
- deflectedHealthMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). loaded question.The response focuses on clinical trials without addressing the accusation of silencing patients.
our government recognizes the difficulties and the heartbreak faced by the thousands of MS patients and their families across Canada.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to the Liberal Party's actions instead of addressing the question about providing information.
only one person and one party have been found guilty of violating the Canada Elections Act by making robocalls, and that was the Liberal candidate for Guelph.
- partly answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer indicates careful review but does not commit to implementing the recommendations.
We must do our due diligence, review the report carefully and speak with all of our stakeholders and partners about the next steps.
- answeredNatural ResourcesMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains that a strategic environmental assessment is underway to ensure safety.
A strategic environmental assessment is taking place to ensure that any drilling in the gulf would be safe for the environment and Canadians.
- deflectedScience and TechnologyGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general R&D investments and reviews instead of addressing the specific lab closure decision.
We have asked all organizations to optimize all of their research activities.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates government talking points on criminals and savings without addressing costs or the Quebec data court order.
We have saved millions of dollars every year for the Canadian taxpayers.
- misdirectedHousingMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer turns to attacking the NDP's voting record rather than addressing support for a national housing strategy.
However, the NDP voted against these initiatives to help thousands of Canadians.
- misdirectedForestry IndustryMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's motives and party instead of addressing the comparison of support for forestry versus auto industries.
No doubt the hon. member is opposed to that because his one and only goal here is to separate Quebec from the rest of Canada.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Bruce Hyer (Independent) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to asking the member about carbon tax instead of responding to the thanks or the Nexen deal.
Since the member is now independent, will he stand with us against the $21 billion of carbon tax and, if so, I will thank him?