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Tuesday, October 23, 2012 · sitting No. 167
Commons debates military justice reforms amid Auditor General criticism
The House spent the majority of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-15, the Strengthening Military Justice in the Defence of Canada Act. New Democrat members including Mylène Freeman and Charlie Angus argued the bill falls short on summary trials, grievances and the Military Police Complaints Commission despite incorporating some recommendations from the 2003 Lamer report. Conservative Chris Alexander said further changes belong in committee.
In Question Period the Auditor General's report on cyber security drew sharp exchanges. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair and Liberal Leader Bob Rae pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on the failure to operate the cyber response centre overnight and on weekends. Harper replied that the government has made progress and accepted the Auditor General's recommendations.
The Auditor General's findings on old age security costs and Veterans Affairs case management also featured prominently, with Mulcair and Rae accusing the government of withholding information and failing ill and injured members.
Decided that day
- Strengthening Military Justice bill referred to committee
- Second bill referred to agriculture committee
- Motion on contaminated meat failed
- S-206 advanced in second chamber
- C-456 and C-455 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-10-23
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- deflectedPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reframes the Auditor General's report positively without addressing the delay or lack of 24/7 operations.
He said: "[The government has made progress in securing its systems against cyber threats, in improving communications, and in building partnerships with owners and operators of critical infrastructure".
- deflectedPensionsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies cuts exist rather than addressing the alleged hiding of cost estimates.
There is no cut to old age security in the government's budget.
- deflectedPensionsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that seniors will receive expected benefits without addressing transparency concerns.
The reality is that our seniors will continue to receive the benefits they are expecting to receive.
- deflectedBudget ImplementationMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general fairness to taxpayers without specifying amounts taken from workers.
I think most Canadians judge those changes to be fair and reasonable.
- partly answeredBudget ImplementationMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the vacation pay deadline change but ignores taxation of group benefits and overall impact on workers.
We want to set a clear 30-day deadline to ensure that employees do get paid.
- deflectedPublic SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites progress and investments without addressing the 24/7 operational gap.
We have been working with the Auditor General.
- deflectedPublic SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes global work and investments without addressing the 24/7 operational issue.
The government is working with its partners here and its allies around the world.
- misdirectedCorrectional Service CanadaBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for trivializing criminality instead of addressing prison mental health issues.
At the same time, the leader of the Liberal Party should not trivialize the issue of criminality.
- deflectedFinanceMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accepts recommendations but avoids specifying any timeline for delivering the promised report.
With respect to his recommendations, we accept them. We have acted and will act in response.
- answeredFinanceMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly states the report will be published that afternoon, addressing the core request despite the loaded premise.
The report will be available on the finance website this afternoon.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights positive steps but does not address when words will turn into action on managing the department.
We are taking action on the Auditor General's recommendations and will continue to enhance cyber security in Canada.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's past comments instead of explaining the lack of a comprehensive long-term plan.
in October 2010, when we announced our cyber strategy and funded that with $90 million, members opposite from the NDP said that we were simply engaged in science fiction.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists investments made but does not explain why the complex process has not been simplified as requested.
We have invested in joint personal support units, hired more staff, put more resources into this very important issue.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes opposition to investments and promises to investigate one case but does not address the broader failure to prioritize services.
I have asked them to look into this and to report to me immediately.
- answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer acknowledges the specific incident and states it was referred for immediate review, addressing the question despite the loaded framing.
I also find it disturbing and I have asked officials who were responsible for this letter to report back to me immediately.
- answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms that an options analysis is underway as part of the seven-point plan.
That substantive work has begun. It is ongoing. It is doing very good work and that includes an options analysis, which is a full evaluation of choices to replace the CF-18.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Directly confirms looking at alternatives with a yes.
- partly answeredVeterans AffairsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Mentions launching an action plan but provides no concrete details or timeline.
I also informed him that we are going to launch an action plan for the transition of our veterans to civilian life.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the question on discussions with premiers and pivots to treaty reception.
This treaty has been very well received by Canadian businesses and is similar to many other treaties that Canada has signed with many other countries around the world.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks opposition's failure to debate instead of addressing the call for debate.
It shows that they really do not care about trade and they do not care about investment.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Claims no change occurred rather than addressing how many assessments are affected.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.Redirects environment questions to another minister without addressing the contradiction.
The member asks frequent questions about the environment, and the Minister of the Environment will continue to answer those.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Frames the issue as private life without addressing the reporting question.
this investigation concerns the private life of a citizen.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Lists existing laws instead of addressing the specific failure to report.
We do have tough laws in place in this area, and we expect them to be followed.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references past changes and Petronas but sidesteps whether new rules will precede any Nexen decision.
As for the two deals she just mentioned, and more specifically the Petronas deal, I said that I was not satisfied that the transaction would be a net benefit for Canada.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promises scrutiny of CNOOC but avoids committing to new rules before the Nexen decision.
with regard to the CNOOC proposed transaction, I reiterate to my colleague that this transaction will be scrutinized very closely.
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer labels it a private business matter and pivots to the plant reopening instead of naming who bears responsibility.
this is a business decision between two different entities.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the secretariat's composition and ongoing work but supplies none of the requested dates or terms of reference.
- misdirectedNational DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise as ludicrous and misleading rather than addressing the security-information disparity.
that is such a ludicrous question on such a serious issue that I really do not know even how to respond.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts general communication of displeasure but gives no concrete actions or timeline for an inquiry.
I have never been known as one to be shy or retired, and I have always communicated the government's pleasure or displeasure in no uncertain terms
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites the three Treasury Board criteria and security rationale but does not explain why sole-sourcing complied with them.
Treasury Board guidelines offer three criteria for moving quickly: national security and the issue of urgency, health and safety, and ministerial approval.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates safety concerns and past losses but never addresses adherence to contracting rules.
This government will take all the necessary actions that we can possibly take to ensure that our diplomats are safe.
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses inspector numbers but pivots to an existing panel instead of the requested audit.
There is also a panel that has been put together by the CFIA after the Weatherill report that will be looking into this, and that report will be made public.
- deflectedQuebec BridgeMr. Denis Blanchette (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refuses to discuss repairs by citing ongoing litigation without engaging the funding reallocation proposal.
When a matter is before the courts, we have to wait until the legal process has run its course and rulings have been handed down.
- partly answeredPersons with DisabilitiesMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses future viability of the plan but does not confirm whether current funding levels will be restored.
we are working with officials and the unions in order to establish a viable plan for the future that will protect the interests of public servants and also be accountable to taxpayers, of course.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses reciprocal obligations and investment benefits but does not address provincial arbitration rights or constitutional concerns.
This agreement is an important step forward.