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Friday, October 19, 2012 · sitting No. 165

Commons debates Combating Terrorism Act as NDP signals opposition

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on Government Orders for Bill S-7, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Canada Evidence Act and the Security of Information Act. New Democrat MP Jean Crowder said her party would oppose the bill, noting that investigative hearings and recognizance with conditions had never been used when similar provisions were in force. She said existing Criminal Code measures were sufficient.

In Question Period, New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen pressed the government to split the second budget implementation bill so that changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act could be examined separately. Conservative MP John Baird said the changes had been announced on page 282 of the March budget and responded to requests from municipal leaders. Liberal MP Scott Brison asked why the government would not also fast-track separate legislation on the navigable waters provisions after agreeing to split members' pensions.

New Democrat MP Libby Davies raised conditions reported at the XL Foods plant in Brooks, Alberta, and asked when the government would take responsibility for food safety concerns. Conservative MP Gerry Ritz said the United States audit had found that corrective actions were taken promptly.

Decided that day

  • C-46 introduced and read a second time

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-19

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 35%, opposition 65% of the words spokenGovernment businessMembers' statementsQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:00Last speech 12:50Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 2 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Terror bill inches forward, answers dodgeThe Combating Terrorism Act advanced through introduction and second reading while most other time went to routine business and questions. Question period produced more deflected than fully answered replies, with no votes recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Food Safety

New Democrat MP Libby Davies asked why Canadian authorities had not identified problems at the XL Foods plant that appeared in U.S. audits.

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The Environment

Liberal MP Scott Brison said changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act had not been mentioned in the March budget and asked why they were buried in the omnibus bill.

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Election Expenses

New Democrat MP Niki Ashton said the member for Labrador had exceeded spending limits and asked when the Conservatives would respect Elections Canada rules.

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Public Safety

New Democrat MP Jean Rousseau said more than 300 people had crossed the border illegally at Stanstead and asked the minister to acknowledge the effect of budget cuts on the Canada Border Services Agency.

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Citizenship and Immigration

New Democrat MP Linda Duncan asked why northern Alberta still had no citizenship judge months after the Edmonton office closed.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Budget ImplementationMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes job creation and notes a spring/fall split but avoids addressing the request to split the current bill for separate study of surprises.The Minister of Finance has already split the budget bill into one in the spring and one in the fall.
  2. deflected
    Budget ImplementationMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats talking points on jobs and debate while attacking the NDP's carbon tax stance instead of responding to the call for splitting the bill.What we need is the NDP to get off its bench and get on to the job creation train instead of its carbon tax train.
  3. partly answered
    Budget ImplementationMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the claim that navigable waters changes were absent from the budget by citing page 282 but does not address splitting other elements.The member talked about the changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act. This was contained on page 282 of the budget.
  4. answered
    Food SafetyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the concern over American audits by explaining the reciprocal audit process and corrective actions taken.The U.S. audit she is talking about clearly stated that upon finding food safety issues, "The CFIA and the establishment took immediate and appropriate corrective actions".
  5. misdirected
    Food SafetyMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition for allegedly misusing old data rather than addressing current concerns about the XL Foods plant and Canadian oversight.if the members opposite were actually concerned about the truth, they would reveal the fact that most of the information that is being bandied about in the media is from a 2003 audit in a different plant.
  6. deflected
    The EnvironmentScott Brison (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends modernization of the act and cites municipal support but sidesteps the question of why changes were buried in the budget bill without prior mention.What we are doing is responding to concerns by municipal leaders from coast to coast to coast.
  7. deflected
    The EnvironmentScott Brison (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes consultation with municipalities and job creation but does not explain why changes preceded the five-year review.We worked with the municipalities in every region of Canada.
  8. deflected
    The EnvironmentScott Brison (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates municipal input and budget page 282 while implying Liberals oppose jobs, avoiding agreement on separating the navigable waters changes.why is the Liberal Party of Canada always standing up against measures to create more jobs, more hope and more opportunity?
  9. answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Directly addresses the premise by clarifying the act's purpose.it has never been a law to protect the environment because it is not an environmental law.
  10. deflected
    Budget Implementation LegislationMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the specific claims and pivots to unrelated job creation talking points.
  11. answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Directly rebuts the environmental claim with the same clarification.It is not an environmental law and it has never been an environmental law.
  12. answered
    Workplace SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses the concern by explaining the role continues elsewhere.the Hazardous Materials Information Review Commission's role will continue to be performed by Health Canada
  13. deflected
    Budget ImplementationMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores holiday pay changes and shifts to unrelated safety claims.we are actually committed to a safe working place.
  14. misdirected
    Election ExpensesMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the question and attacks the asker’s party instead.when the hon. member ran for office, part of her campaign was paid for using illegal union money.
  15. misdirected
    Election ExpensesMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the specific allegation and counters with attacks on the NDP.She is part of a party that accepted almost ten times that amount in illegal union money.
  16. answered
    EthicsMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked Mrs. Susan Truppe (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states reliance on RCMP to recover funds if warranted.we trust the experienced officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to get to the bottom of this very serious matter
  17. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Rathika Sitsabaiesan (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the member's integrity but sidesteps the question about negative perceptions in Ukraine.people are entitled to be innocent until proven guilty.
  18. misdirected
    Food SafetyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts involvement but ends by attacking the asker's awareness rather than addressing the call to redirect ad funds.I am not sure where the member has been.
  19. deflected
    Food SafetyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to Alberta actions but avoids committing to a federal Public Health lead role.Again, I am not sure where the member has been.
  20. partly answered
    Food SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references existing provisions and panels but does not directly consent to the requested amendment.The panel will do an independent audit which will become public.
  21. answered
    TelecommunicationsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the legal inability of cabinet to overturn the CRTC decision.the government has no legal ability to overturn this decision.
  22. answered
    TelecommunicationsMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the legal inability of cabinet to overturn the CRTC decision.cabinet has no legal ability to overturn this decision.
  23. answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the assistance already provided to Turkey via UN programs.We have put a lot of those resources into the United Nations World Food Programme and the United Nations refugees program
  24. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly affirms Canada's ongoing and potential increased humanitarian support.Canada is prepared to step up to the plate and do even more to provide for humanitarian assistance.
  25. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Jean Rousseau (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for past votes instead of addressing the Stanstead border situation or budget cuts.For him to be grandstanding for his constituents now when he is in fact the cause of any problems in terms of getting things done that our government is getting done is shameful.
  26. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Jacob (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for opposing past bills instead of addressing the specific impacts of cuts on border security.Again, Mr. Speaker, that is a member who has consistently opposed our efforts to bring in reforms to deter bogus refugee claimants and other abuses of the refugee system.
  27. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly responds to the request for a citizenship judge appointment.No, I will not, Mr. Speaker, because the cabinet approved one two weeks ago.
  28. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the questioner's party position and knowledge rather than addressing the impact of office closures on Sudbury businesses.I have two points, Mr. Speaker. First, the NDP calls on us to shut down the temporary foreign worker program, except for when the NDP members ask us to provide temporary foreign workers for employers.
  29. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms no changes to fishers' EI but shifts to general EI reforms without outlining specifics requested.There have been no changes to the fishers' EI program.
  30. deflected
    Small BusinessMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes the credit penalizes hiring; the answer avoids the premise and pivots to voting records.But, at every turn, the Liberals and the NDP vote against our plan.
  31. deflected
    Canada Post CorporationMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes Canada Post independence but pivots to attacking the questioner's carbon tax position instead of addressing service cuts.If the hon. member wants to support accessible mail, she should oppose her party's carbon tax.
  32. deflected
    Canada Post CorporationMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes Canada Post independence but pivots to attacking the questioner's carbon tax position instead of addressing rural post office closures.The NDP plan to impose a carbon tax will make these operations more expensive and postal services less accessible to Canadians.
  33. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMark Eyking (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the yes-or-no vote question by noting Rwanda was acclaimed.Rwanda was acclaimed. No one was running against it.
  34. partly answered
    Human ResourcesMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the recruitment requirement for Canadians but does not address the 15% wage issue or abuse.In fact, there is a requirement that if a company is bringing in workers from offshore, the company must first prove that it has done extensive advertising and attempts to recruit Canadian workers unsuccessfully.
  35. deflected
    Official LanguagesMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general promotion of linguistic duality without addressing the committee delay.we are working on Canada's linguistic duality. We are promoting it, and we will continue to do so.
  36. answered
    TelecommunicationsMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states there is no legal opportunity for cabinet to overturn the CRTC decision.this is a decision made by the CRTC, an independent agency of the government, and therefore there is no legal opportunity for cabinet to overturn this decision.
  37. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Bruce Hyer (Independent) asked Mike Lake (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the asker's past vote instead of addressing the Petronas bid.My question for the hon. member is that in 2009 when we introduced changes to the Investment Canada Act and added provisions to protect national security, why did he vote against them?