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Monday, September 24, 2012 · sitting No. 151
House debates faster removal of foreign criminals bill
Government orders on the faster removal of foreign criminals act occupied the largest share of the sitting as members debated Bill C-43. Parliamentary secretary Rick Dykstra said the bill would end repeated appeals by convicted non-citizens and protect public safety while New Democrat MP Jinny Jogindera Sims warned that expanded ministerial powers would bypass judicial oversight.
In question period the leader of the official opposition Thomas Mulcair pressed the government on weak economic growth forecasts and on a proposed agreement to share embassy space with Britain. Foreign affairs minister John Baird replied that the administrative arrangement would allow Canada to maintain independent representation and a distinct foreign policy.
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Who held the floor · 2012-09-24
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Motions in amendment
Liberal MP Irwin Cotler moved amendments to Bill C-299 that would impose a five-year mandatory minimum sentence on parents or guardians convicted of kidnapping a minor.
Read the exchangeUkraine
Conservative MP Peter Goldring marked the twenty-first anniversary of Ukraine's independence and noted Canada's early recognition of the new state.
Read the exchangeThe Economy
Liberal MP Bob Rae asked whether the government agreed with the Bank of Canada governor that income inequality required public debate and action.
Read the exchangeForeign Investment
New Democrat MP Peter Julian cited a CSIS report warning that some state-owned enterprises pursue opaque agendas when acquiring control of strategic Canadian sectors.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
Liberal MP Sean Casey said the government spent $750,000 fighting disabled veterans in court over pension clawbacks and asked whether the same approach would be taken against retired RCMP officers.
Read the exchangePublic Safety
New Democrat MP Brian Masse said border delays already cost the economy between $15 billion and $30 billion a year and warned that further CBSA cuts would worsen the problem.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedThe EconomyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes existing job measures and attacks the NDP instead of addressing when the government will change its economic approach.
our Conservative government is committed to creating jobs, promoting Canadian exports and accelerating economic growth.
- deflectedThe EconomyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights past jobs and international projections while attacking the NDP on carbon tax rather than admitting or changing course.
Every single time we come forward with initiatives to create jobs, the NDP stands in its place and votes no.
- answeredForeign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the limited administrative nature of the embassy arrangements and rejects the premise of lost independence.
This is a small administrative agreement. It has nothing to do with what the NDP has just suggested.
- deflectedForeign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as fabrication and lists unrelated co-location examples instead of addressing independence concerns.
the Leader of the Opposition is just making it up as he goes along.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the sarcastic merger suggestions and pivots to attacking the NDP's leadership choice.
it is funny because the New Democratic Party finally had to turn to the Liberal Party to find itself a new leader.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the Prime Minister's schedule but adds sarcastic invitation and praise that diverts from the UN speech question.
I am going to go out on a limb and invite the member for Toronto Centre, the leader of the Liberal Party.
- deflectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer agrees with the governor on growth but lists tax cuts instead of addressing income inequality directly.
We agree with the governor when he says that we need to do more job creation, have more economic growth and inspire more hope for opportunity in Canada's economy.
- deflectedThe EconomyBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists programs and attacks Liberal opposition rather than explaining refusal to target economic inequality.
Every time we brought forward those initiatives, the Liberal Party fought them tooth and nail.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states lack of knowledge on the source without addressing the call to investigate or reassure allies.
I cannot comment on the accuracy of the Maclean's article and I do not know the source of the material.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP's position on Khadr instead of addressing the leak or trust issues.
In fact, perhaps the member should wonder why members of her party would suggest that we already prejudge the Khadr case by paying Mr. Khadr $10 million, as the NDP has indicated it wants to do.
- partly answeredForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms scrutiny under the Investment Canada Act but does not address public consultations.
The Investment Canada Act process, by the way, has provisions in it that protect national security.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the review process and shifts to criticizing NDP economic policies rather than acknowledging concerns.
However, we have no lessons to take from the NDP, whose reckless economic policies will deter investment, kill jobs and hurt Canadian families.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights job creation and attacks NDP policies instead of addressing the lack of consultation on EI changes.
This is a little bit different from the approach by the NDP: a $21 billion tax hike through a carbon tax, let alone that the NDP and Liberals have voted against every opportunity to ensure the unemployed have opportunities for employment.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the policy intent but avoids engaging with the accusation of penalizing claimants or incompetence.
those who work more will be able to keep more when it comes to their employment insurance.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims the changes work for seasonal workers but does not address the impact on training or agricultural companies.
The employers and employees in my riding are saying that these new changes work.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the rules for finding appropriate local employment but does not address impacts on contract teachers or education quality.
Our government is working to help Canadians find jobs in their local areas appropriate to their qualifications.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking NDP policy instead of addressing the EI changes or consultation.
It would have a $21 billion carbon tax, which would kill jobs.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the new earnings rule but ignores the specific clawback examples and timeline question.
those who work more will be keeping more of their earnings, which will encourage people to accept work while on unemployment insurance.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Ms. Eve Adams (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends government actions and attacks opposition voting records rather than addressing the court case or minister's remarks.
Our government has significantly improved benefits for veterans, including the benefits for disabled veterans, while the NDP and the Liberals consistently vote against these benefits.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insults the question and the Liberal Party instead of addressing embassy or sovereignty concerns.
The fact that the once great Liberal Party of Canada could ask such a ridiculous question is probably the best example of why its members are sitting in the far corner.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes the secretariat's composition but avoids the PR spending and 'no comment' criticism.
I would ask her to allow them to do their work.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises secretariat members and KPMG but sidesteps the communications firm and honesty cost questions.
I have every faith in the individuals who are members of the secretariat charged with the due diligence necessary to make the decision to replace our CF-18s.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer criticizes the PBO's focus instead of explaining refusal to provide requested figures.
we believe that rather than spending his time and energy tracking money that was not spent, the budget officer would do well to spend his time ensuring that money that will be spent is spent correctly.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates normal reporting channels and avoids the court action or leaked documents issue.
on the contrary, we will continue to report to Parliament through the normal means, which are the estimates, quarterly financial reports and the consideration of the public accounts.
- answeredPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly denies privatization plans and addresses the study by stating no new prisons will be built.
let me be clear that there are no plans to pursue privatized prisons similar to those implemented in the United States or by the Labour government in the United Kingdom.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses privatization of guarding but deflects on the specific study by pivoting to existing private services.
there are already private services in prisons.
- answeredGovernment SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the issue and details actions taken including an audit and expense oversight.
I asked the Auditor General to conduct an independent audit and he has agreed to do so and is doing that.
- partly answeredGovernment SpendingMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer focuses only on the Old Port case and repeats prior measures without addressing broader spending attitude or other examples.
when it comes to the Old Port, we have sent a message loud and clear.
- partly answeredNational DefenceJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer covers cost estimates and KPMG review but does not address reviewing the statement of requirements or launching open bidding.
We have hired KPMG to do that and we look forward to those cost estimates being made public to parliamentarians.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates general policy on investment review without addressing China-specific conditions or reciprocal rights.
Canada's investment review process is sound and ensures that foreign investment is of net benefit to Canada and Canadians.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids confirming French services by redirecting to future announcement and unrelated examples.
We will be announcing it in a very short period of time.
- answeredOfficial LanguagesMr. Pierre Dionne Labelle (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states no change to Official Languages Act services in response to the query on French-language maintenance.
There has been no change to the Official Languages Act with respect to services provided by the Government of Canada or the buildings in which we work in countries around the world.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the foreign policy question entirely and instead attacks the MP personally for crossing the floor.
For this member to talk about policy assimilation, someone who sought election to the House of Commons proudly as a New Democrat only to cross the floor mere months after election, that is a real bait and switch.
- deflectedChildren's RightsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists general government efforts on children but never addresses the late UN response or the lack of data on children in care.
governments at both the federal and provincial levels as well as our municipal partners do a lot to support the rights of children, do a lot to provide services for children, whether they be children in care at the provincial level or children in care in our first nations.
- partly answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the Haiti family reunification program and notes thousands benefited but does not address the specific claims of broken promises, fees, delays or denials.
on the contrary, the government implemented a program to expedite the reunification of families following the earthquake in Haiti in 2010.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to urging support for unrelated crime bills and dismisses the question by stating the obvious without addressing a stolen-phone database.
I urge my colleague to vote in favour of this government's crime bills.