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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 · sitting No. 148
Commons debates RCMP accountability bill amid job and trade clashes
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-42, the Enhancing Royal Canadian Mounted Police Accountability Act. NDP members said the measure would not fix systemic problems including sexual harassment, while government members defended the creation of a new civilian review body. The bill remained before the House at adjournment.
In Question Period the NDP pressed the government on temporary foreign worker rules and employment insurance changes that members said would force lower wages or loss of benefits. The Conservatives replied that their policies had created 770,000 net new jobs and that the NDP carbon tax would harm families. Liberals raised similar concerns about support for low-income workers and young people.
The NDP also questioned the proposed CNOOC takeover of Nexen, citing the company's environmental and human rights record, while Industry Minister Christian Paradis said the review process would ensure a net benefit to Canada.
Decided that day
- Bill C-309 passed as amended
- One bill advanced to second reading and sent to environment committee
- Finance committee report extension approved
- One bill failed at second reading for transport committee
- Ways and Means motion on income tax passed
- C-42 and C-370 both advanced to second reading
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-09-19
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Other moments
Asbestos
Industry Minister Christian Paradis told the House Canada would no longer oppose adding chrysotile asbestos to the Rotterdam Convention and announced $50 million in diversification funds for affected regions.
Read the exchangeGasoline Prices
NDP members accused the government of ignoring a 36 per cent rise in pump prices since 2006 and called for tighter rules on collusion; Christian Paradis pointed to the GST cut and the Fairness at the Pumps Act.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Jean Crowder asked Aboriginal Affairs Minister Greg Rickford to extend the final day for residential school abuse compensation applications after a surge in claims; Rickford said the government would honour the court-supervised settlement.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
NDP MP Jack Harris asked Defence Minister Peter MacKay to release documents and cover costs for the Fynes family at the Military Police Complaints Commission hearing into their son's death; MacKay said the government had already spent $2.5 million supporting the inquiry.
Read the exchangeFisheries and Oceans
Liberal MP Joyce Murray said closing the Kitsilano search-and-rescue base would endanger lives and asked for a meeting with the Prime Minister; Fisheries Minister Keith Ashfield said the Coast Guard had confirmed no loss of response capability.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedEmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to general job creation stats and attacks NDP carbon tax instead of addressing temporary foreign workers' impact on unemployed Canadians.
our approach has been to help the unemployed by creating jobs.
- deflectedEmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims preference for Canadians but pivots to opposing NDP policies and carbon tax without explaining the 15% wage rule or TFW effects.
our policies aim to create more jobs for Canadians.
- misdirectedEmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP incentives for unemployment and pivots to carbon tax platform instead of addressing EI cuts or 30% pay cut examples.
I know the NDP thinks it is better to create incentives for people to be unemployed.
- misdirectedEmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores EI pay cut question entirely and attacks Mulcair on carbon tax and leadership statements.
the problem for him is that it is here. It is $21.5 billion and it goes up every year.
- deflectedThe EconomyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer agrees on lower taxes but shifts to criticizing NDP meeting plan and carbon tax without addressing trade deficit or manufacturing jobs.
there actually is one thing the Leader of the Opposition has right. We actually believe the solution is lower taxes, not higher taxes and a carbon tax.
- partly answeredThe EconomyDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists tax reductions and benefits for vulnerable Canadians but does not address the specific claim about balancing books on the poor or EI/CPP/OAS issues.
we have been helping taxpaying, working Canadian families.
- deflectedThe EconomyDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists programs but ignores inequality, youth unemployment, and EI clawback, instead claiming broad help without specifics on the issues raised.
we have taken measures to help all Canadians.
- misdirectedThe EconomyDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites job numbers and attacks Liberals for voting against programs instead of addressing youth job abandonment, EI clawbacks, or OAS rollback.
I could go on, but we can see who is really taking it out on vulnerable Canadians. It is the Liberal Party.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the review process and attacks NDP policy instead of addressing consultation refusal.
We will not take lessons from the NDP, whose reckless economic policy would deter investment, kill jobs and hurt Canadian families.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats net benefit claim and attacks NDP without addressing oil spill concerns or lobbyist meetings.
As I said before, the NDP is not in a position to tell us how we should do things because its irresponsible economic policies would result in job losses and negative outcomes for Canadian families.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to NDP trade policy attacks rather than explaining lack of consultations or net benefit definition.
we all know that the NDP policy is to get away from trade tables.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms commitment to the settlement agreement but does not address extending the deadline for claims.
The Indian residential schools settlement agreement is court supervised and was agreed to by multiple parties, including legal counsel for most students and the Assembly of First Nations.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses funding priorities but ignores deadline flexibility and core funding cuts to healing organizations.
we want to ensure that funding for aboriginal organizations is focused on the delivery of essential services and programs in key areas, such as education, economic development and community infrastructure.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates shared priorities without addressing cuts or backlog, while question assumes refusal to build relationships.
Flowing from the Crown–First Nations Gathering, we will continue to work with first nations community members and with their leadership to ensure that our shared priorities are met.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats focus on essential services but avoids explaining core funding cuts to aboriginal health organizations.
as I have already said, we want to ensure that these aboriginal organizations which have done great work in the delivery of essential services and programs continue to place the priority on just that, the delivery of essential services and programs, particularly in the areas of education, economic development and community infrastructure.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's voting record instead of addressing specific funding cuts to organizations like AMC.
what is most unfortunate about the member's comments and the position of her party is that every time we have moved forward with allocations for resources to shared priorities with first nations leadership, that party has voted against them.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the requests for apology, documents and expenses by accusing the asker of interference and citing the ongoing inquiry.
The member wants to interfere with the process.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the math on low-wage earners and instead attacks the Liberal voting record.
However, let us look at the hypocrisy of the member and the Liberal Party.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general support for veterans without addressing whether RCMP veterans will be included in discussions or face court action.
We are going to continue to ensure that our veterans are entitled to all the programs and services they need and fully deserve.
- partly answeredHousingJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the existing CMHC policy terms but does not address re-evaluating charges or supporting co-ops further.
Those are the terms that these individuals agreed to and those are the terms that we expect them to honour, just as we will honour those terms.
- deflectedPublic TransitMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer cites past spending and jurisdiction but sidesteps committing to a national transit strategy vote.
The NDP seems to vote against all our initiatives rather than support our initiatives.
- deflectedPublic TransitMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes jurisdictional respect and past revenue growth but offers no commitment to a national strategy.
Finally, the NDP public transit plan is a carbon tax, which would make it impossible to pay for gas.
- deflectedGasoline PricesMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists past measures but pivots to attacking an NDP carbon tax instead of addressing current high prices.
What about the $20 billion fact? What about the carbon tax that those guys over there are proposing?
- deflectedGasoline PricesMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats past actions and again attacks the NDP carbon tax without proposing new solutions to collusion or prices.
It would be really shocking if these people came in with their carbon tax and prices jumped 10¢ a litre.
- misdirectedInternational CooperationMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP for focusing on tragedy and voting records instead of addressing the specific budget cuts and aid to poorest countries.
There have been no cuts to the humanitarian side of the CIDA budget.
- deflectedInternational CooperationMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates commitments and global praise while avoiding the question on cuts to bottom 25% nations.
we are not cutting aid to nations on a humanitarian level.
- answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly apologizes and commits to resolving the miscalculation affecting families.
I want to sincerely apologize to the Canadian families who have been affected.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the error by announcing an investigation but does not specify timelines or take personal responsibility.
I have asked the Taxpayers' Ombudsman to conduct an investigation into this issue
- partly answeredPensionsMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the 50-50 pension share idea but avoids committing to a stand-alone bill.
we have previously indicated that we think it is fair for parliamentarians to move up to a 50-50 cost share
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates coast guard confidence in no impact without addressing the request for a prime ministerial meeting.
There will be no negative impact on our ability to respond quickly and effectively to distress incidents on the water.
- answeredAsbestosMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the new policy position on asbestos classification and related funding.
Canada will no longer oppose adding chrysotile asbestos to annex III of the Rotterdam Convention.
- deflectedAsbestosMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the non-opposition stance but pivots to regional funds instead of confirming support for the classification.
Canada's position is to no longer oppose the inclusion of chrysotile in annex III of the Rotterdam Convention.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Ted Hsu (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the shift to online services and mentions Service Canada as an alternative but does not address protection of service levels for vulnerable people.
Canadians can visit their local Service Canada location for assistance and the CRA will provide in-person meetings for issues—
- deflectedAgricultureMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to provincial processes and an election delay instead of stating any federal action to be taken today.
There was a little thing in Quebec called an election, which has slowed down the assessment.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer turns to warning the opposition about agreeing with a statement on President Obama rather than addressing the humanitarian request.
Just a warning to the other side: I hope members agree with that statement.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the net-benefit test and general policy without addressing the timing of releasing the fine print or the specific deadlines raised.
Our job here is to ensure that it provides a net benefit for Canada.