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Monday, June 18, 2012 · sitting No. 142

Commons advances budget bill at third reading amid QP clashes

The House spent most of the day on third reading of Bill C-38, the jobs growth and long-term prosperity act. Conservative parliamentary secretary Shelly Glover said the bill would secure jobs and long-term prosperity while finance committee members heard nearly 70 hours of testimony. New Democrat MP Peggy Nash said the measure would worsen unemployment and cut services.

In Question Period Liberal MP Scott Brison pressed Glover on accountability after the Parliamentary Budget Officer reported that 64 departments had not supplied requested data. Conservative House leader John Baird replied that the government had provided estimates supplementary estimates and public accounts. New Democrat leader Thomas Mulcair said the Federal Accountability Act required free and timely access to financial data.

Other exchanges centred on ethics and refugee health care. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre defended Peterborough MP Dean Del Mastro's election filings while New Democrat MP Alexandre Boulerice called for Del Mastro to step aside during an investigation.

Decided that day

  • Third Report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates passed
  • Two bills read a third time and passed
  • Amendment to main motion defeated
  • House proceeded to Orders of the Day

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Who held the floor · 2012-06-18

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 47%, opposition 53% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0513:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:00Last speech 21:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 10 h 40 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Budget bill advances amid routine sparringThe House devoted most of its time to the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act, advancing three bills through initial stages and passing several key motions. Question Period produced mostly deflected answers, yet recorded votes showed clear legislative progress rather than procedural gridlock.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Points of Order

Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan asked that the record be corrected to show he voted nay on Motion No. 273 in Division No. 325.

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Federal Framework for Suicide Prevention Act

Conservative MP Harold Albrecht said the conversation on Bill C-300 was as important as the legislation itself and noted that suicide is the second-largest killer of Canadian youth.

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Pensions

New Democrat MP Peggy Nash said the last Statistics Canada report showed seniors' income declining and poverty rising while Conservative minister Diane Finley said tax cuts had lifted 380000 seniors from tax rolls.

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Privacy

New Democrat MP Randall Garrison said Canada Border Services Agency had installed airport surveillance microphones without consulting the Privacy Commissioner while Public Safety minister Vic Toews said privacy rights of law-abiding Canadians were respected.

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The Environment

New Democrat MP Megan Leslie said the budget bill would repeal the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act while Natural Resources minister Joe Oliver said the northern gateway project remained under joint review panel study.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the PBO law claim and pivots to standard reporting and unions.the Prime Minister and the government will continue to report to Parliament through the means that have been used for many years.
  2. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the law-breaking accusation and shifts to debate length and economic praise.we had unprecedented debate about budget 2012 in the House and in committee.
  3. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the accountability law and MP access issue to discuss consultations and votes.it is this government that held unprecedented consultations in preparing budget 2012.
  4. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats normal reporting channels without addressing PBO information refusal.we will continue to report to Parliament by the normal means, including the estimates, quarterly financial reports and the public accounts process.
  5. misdirected
    PensionsMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP voting record instead of addressing seniors' poverty data or OAS cuts.Unfortunately, the NDP has voted against every one of those initiatives to help our seniors be better off.
  6. deflected
    Government AccountabilityBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores PBO access rights and pivots to election platform and job numbers.when this government sought election this past year in May 2011, we came forward with a solid economic plan to create jobs and opportunity.
  7. deflected
    Government AccountabilityBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer evades the Reform accountability point and returns to economic messaging.this party is the party that was elected on a plan for job creation and economic growth.
  8. misdirected
    Government AccountabilityBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks prior Liberal government instead of addressing PBO obligations.When we brought in the Federal Accountability Act, it was designed with one big goal: to clean up the ethical mess that was left by the previous Liberal government
  9. deflected
    International TradeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as nonsense without addressing any concessions.the question is sheer nonsense.
  10. deflected
    International TradeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's trade stance instead of addressing IP or drug costs.we know that the NDP does not support free trade agreements in any way, shape or form anywhere in the world.
  11. partly answered
    International TradeMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reassures on supply management but avoids a direct yes or no.Supply management has not stood in the way of Canada signing any of our free trade agreements with any country in the world.
  12. partly answered
    PrivacyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the purpose but does not address consultation or security benefits.Canada Border Services Agency operates customs-controlled areas for screening international travellers arriving at airports across Canada, including monitoring video and audio in order to detect and prevent illegal smuggling.
  13. deflected
    PrivacyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to the Air India report instead of addressing the hold request.I also want to point out that two years ago Justice Major completed the Air India report.
  14. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the asker's donations rather than addressing the investigation.But while we are on the subject of donations to political parties, the hon. member now has a chance to rise and tell the House whether, after his donation of $3,700, he still supports Québec Solidaire.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer is a direct partisan attack with no substantive response.
  16. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's past violations instead of addressing the Prime Minister's awareness of the documents.He might be right because his party has already been found guilty of the allegations that were outstanding against it.
  17. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The response shifts focus to NDP illegal donations rather than the member's investigation or Prime Minister's support.By contrast, the NDP admits now to having accepted illegal donations from union bosses and admits that it had to give some of that money back.
  18. deflected
    EthicsMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer criticizes use of parliamentary privilege and challenges repetition outside instead of addressing the call for committee testimony.Last week I challenged the member to repeat his false allegations outside this place.
  19. deflected
    EthicsMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The response highlights lack of contact from Elections Canada and mocks the asker rather than addressing the motion for testimony.Then he became curiously quiet, which is very unusual for him and merciful for us.
  20. deflected
    International TradeWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as nonsense and discusses Canada's TPP interest without explaining the chief of staff's role.What sheer nonsense, Mr. Speaker.
  21. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses pipeline safety measures and the review process but does not directly respond to the deficient response plan or budget bill changes.Our government is further increasing pipeline safety by devoting significant funds to increasing inspections by 50% and doubling the number of audits.
  22. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The response defends Canada's G20 position and sovereignty but avoids addressing the NEB's follow-up failures or fossil fuel subsidies.Our position at Rio has not changed.
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses Canada's contributions and sustainable development strategy without justifying the maintenance of fossil fuel subsidies.Canada has already provided a useful contribution to Rio+20 by sharing a number of policy tools and best practices that had been developed and implemented in Canada.
  24. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The minister promotes government investments without addressing the specific concerns about Enbridge or pipeline incidents.under current legislation on responsible resource development, our government will invest more than $160 million to improve environmental protection, marine protection and pipeline safety by doubling the number of inspections—
  25. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the case but uses privilege to avoid full disclosure and attacks the asker.There are issues, of course, of solicitor-client privilege that are well established by the courts
  26. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Quotes precedent but then diverts to an unrelated tragic event.Solicitor-client privilege is fundamental to the proper functioning of our legal system
  27. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Turns to attacking the member instead of addressing the question.
  28. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Responds with personal attacks rather than substantive reply.What is very disturbing is that the hon. member and others seem prepared to make this matter political. He is becoming Parliament's ambulance chaser.
  29. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Directly explains the policy change and rationale.under our reformed interim federal health program, resettled refugees will receive the same comprehensive health insurance that all Canadian permanent residents receive from their provincial governments.
  30. partly answered
    PrivacyMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Provides context but does not directly agree to refer the issue.If the member wants the privacy commissioner to look at any practices inside the CBSA in this respect, I would invite him to make that request.
  31. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Defends policy without agreeing to reverse or addressing long-term costs.We are ending supplementary insurance, which is not available to Canadians.
  32. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates government policy on refugee health benefits without addressing the demand to reverse cuts.What we will no longer do is provide supplementary extra benefits that are not available to taxpaying Canadians.
  33. answered
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses both questions by explaining the timeline for cost estimates and rejecting the premise on US pricing.What it means is that we are following the recommendations of the Auditor General and he recommended that the Department of National Defence table updated cost estimates.
  34. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. José Nunez-Melo (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise about immigration levels and pivots to asylum abuse instead of addressing impacts on Laval.Do the hon. member and the NDP believe that Laval's economy depends on bogus asylum claims and illegal immigration?
  35. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific scenario on successive pay cuts and instead questions the NDP's motives.I have to wonder: while we want to help people find work, why does the NDP not want to help people work?
  36. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise on visa delays but provides no explanation for the reported nine-month waits.I believe that the hon. member is absolutely wrong.
  37. partly answered
    Points of OrderWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Chris Warkentin (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the observed gesture and calls for an apology but does not resolve the factual dispute over intent.If the hon. member did not intend to communicate what was in fact communicated by his actions, I would ask that he apologize for how they would be interpreted because it was clear in the way it was presented that anybody would see it as a gesture that would be unacceptable in this House.