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Tuesday, June 5, 2012 · sitting No. 134
NDP motion on muzzling scientists leads supply day debate
New Democrat MP Kennedy Stewart moved an opposition motion calling on the government to end the muzzling of scientists, reverse cuts to research programs at several federal departments and agencies, and cancel the closures of the National Council of Welfare and the First Nations Statistical Institute. The motion, debated during government orders as the largest item of the day, remained unresolved at adjournment.
In question period, New Democrat MP Nathan Cullen and Conservative MP Jason Kenney clashed over military procurement costs and the affordability of the government's defence plan. Liberal MP Bob Rae and Conservative ministers Diane Finley and Jason Kenney exchanged views on youth employment, apprenticeship supports and manufacturing job losses.
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Who held the floor · 2012-06-05
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Ministerial Expenditures
New Democrat MP Alexandre Boulerice questioned changes to the minister of international cooperation's expense claims while Conservative MP Peter Van Loan defended only appropriate expenses as reimbursed.
Read the exchangeCitizenship and Immigration
New Democrat MP Jinny Jogindera Sims pressed the minister of citizenship and immigration on a televised ceremony using government employees, and Conservative MP Jason Kenney said he and his office were unaware most participants were officials.
Read the exchangePensions
New Democrat MP Irene Mathyssen criticized the pooled registered pension plan approach and urged expansion of the Canada pension plan, while Conservative MP Ted Menzies said the framework had provincial support and would reach 60 per cent of workers without plans.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
Liberal MP Francis Scarpaleggia asked why the government planned to privatize or eliminate the Experimental Lakes Area program, and Conservative MP Peter Kent said scientists were being moved west to study acidification in western lakes.
Read the exchangeAgriculture
New Democrat MP Malcolm Allen raised reports of up to 85 per cent colony losses among honey producers and sought immediate support, while Conservative MP Gerry Ritz said the government would rely on sound science and conduct its own studies.
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- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the question by listing actions and attacking opposition instead of addressing the affordability claim.
While we were doing that, the NDP and the Liberal Party opposed our efforts to get the equipment that our men and women in uniform need to do their jobs to defend Canada.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists equipment delivered and attacks opposition rather than addressing the unaffordability warning from officials.
the reality is that no government in the modern history of Canada has done more to invest in giving the equipment necessary to our men and women in uniform.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses only the photo op cost and ignores the question on procurement delays from mismanagement.
the announcement to replace Canada's aging CF-18 fleet was considered significant and necessary to ensure public media and industry awareness.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to opposition's record and general support for military instead of addressing the minister's use of assets or staff criticism.
The reality still remains that if it were up to the NDP, our military men and women would have no assets whatsoever.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer acknowledges member's service but restates prior answers without addressing why military should handle minister's reputation.
With respect to the trip in question, it has been answered many times before.
- partly answeredEmploymentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists apprenticeship grants and youth programs but does not address protecting apprentices specifically amid manufacturing layoffs.
That is why we introduced the apprenticeship incentive grant, the completion grant for apprentices, and also incentives for employers to hire and keep them.
- deflectedEmploymentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites overall job numbers but ignores the specific issue of manufacturing layoffs affecting apprentices and skill shortages.
Under this government, 750,000 new jobs have been created in Canada over the past two years.
- misdirectedEmploymentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberal spending plans and cites deficits instead of addressing Canada's manufacturing strategy relative to the US.
The country to which he refers is running a deficit of over a trillion dollars, while this country is on track to balance the budget within two years.
- deflectedMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The response restates a prior claim without addressing the specific changes to expense claims or timeline for answers.
only appropriate expenses were paid for by the government.
- deflectedMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to economic talking points instead of addressing the Davos limousine costs raised.
It is a success that is second to none among the major developed economies.
- deflectedMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response avoids the repayment question by pivoting to Canada's economic story and attacking the NDP's hypothetical record.
I know that if the NDP were in government, it would not have to worry about it, because Canada would not be there with an economic success story to deliver.
- deflectedMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the demand to repay funds and instead emphasizes bilateral meetings and investment attraction.
That is why they are going there.
- partly answeredMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The response directly explains vehicle booking and requirements but does not address the parking cuts comparison.
Those vehicles were booked by the department, not by the ministers' offices, and they were booked following a competition.
- deflectedMinisterial ExpendituresMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cuts off while pivoting away from cuts and entitlements to Canada's presence at Davos.
Its plan is that Canada should not be there attracting investment on the world—
- answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The response directly addresses the awareness claim and provides clarification on the ceremony details.
the documents that have come to light today reconfirm that in fact I and my office were not aware of the fact that there were only a few new citizens sworn in at that ceremony.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner instead of addressing the request for an apology or admission.
The member should apologize for the tone of that outrageous question.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the NDP's understanding and discusses normal ceremonies instead of addressing the request for an apology.
clearly the NDP does not understand that citizenship reaffirmation ceremonies take place every year and that some of them are televised.
- deflectedInternational TradeGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of misleading the public and labels the concern nonsense without addressing the trade negotiation specifics.
The reality is that the negotiations will exclude public services such as public health, public education and social services.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise outright then shifts to discussing the number of ceremonies rather than addressing deception or blame.
I did no such thing. The reality is that every year there are dozens of special citizenship ceremonies, many of them produced specifically—
- deflectedSearch and RescueJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer refers to prior answers and professional relationships without addressing the minister's use of the helicopter.
With respect to the trip in question, that question has been answered many times before.
- deflectedThe BudgetMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights positive feedback on infrastructure instead of addressing calls to split the budget bill or environmental concerns.
What I heard is that they are so proud of what we have done together.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes listening and past support for municipalities without addressing consultation failures or splitting the bill.
A number of mayors came to see me afterwards to tell me how much they appreciate the support our government has provided in the past to the municipalities
- deflectedPensionsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the government's PRPP plan and criticizes the NDP's voting record instead of addressing CPP expansion or pension volatility.
opposition members would actually have the opportunity to answer their own question pretty soon, because we actually have a piece of legislation that is willing and able to help 60% of the people in the workforce who do not now have a pension plan.
- deflectedPensionsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains jurisdictional limits and provincial support for PRPPs instead of addressing CPP expansion.
We do not have the jurisdiction to change the Canada pension plan whatsoever without the support of the provinces.
- deflectedNational Film BoardMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the specific CineRobotheque closure and pivots to past NDP votes.
Unfortunately, the NDP and the Liberals voted against all those investments.
- deflectedNational Film BoardMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids the cuts and policy question by attacking NDP voting record.
Every single time we have moved forward with our economic action plan to invest in arts and culture, those members vote against it.
- partly answeredVeteransMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the investigation and cooperation but not why violations continue.
that is why I have asked the staff in my department to co-operate fully with the commissioner during her investigation.
- deflectedVeteransMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps specific benefit denials and executive spending by restating general investments.
we have invested billions of dollars so that our veterans have access to all the services and benefits to which they are entitled.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges past contributions but shifts to moving scientists west without addressing privatization.
At the same time, we want to put the research where the challenges are.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists other water investments and attacks prior Liberal record instead of addressing listed cuts.
This government does not pay lip service to the environment, as the previous Liberal government did.
- partly answeredAgricultureMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer commits to studies but does not specify immediate support programs for beekeepers.
We will begin our own studies and get to the bottom of this as quickly as we can.
- deflectedAgricultureMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes research spending but pivots to attacking NDP instead of addressing moratorium request.
We can never, ever count on the NDP to backstop any of that spending.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise outright and pivots to general consultation statements without addressing exclusion or the adversaries remark.
I reject the entire content of that question.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the shift in research focus but does not address the claimed health risks to Canadians.
We are now moving our science father west where there are acid-sensitive lakes and where research is required.
- answeredAir TransportationMs. Élaine Michaud (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rebuts the need for further consultation by citing prior meetings and an existing agreement.
The town met with the developers seven times.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the reforms with a positive FCM quote instead of addressing the request to admit a mistake.
By reducing the time municipal employees are forced to spend filling out forms...the changes will make it faster and less expensive for local governments to perform routine public services