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Friday, April 27, 2012 · sitting No. 112
Commons debates seniors protection bill amid F-35 and environment clashes
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on Government Orders for Bill C-36, the Protecting Canada's Seniors Act. Conservative MP Robert Goguen told the House the bill responds to growing abuse of elderly Canadians and court recognition of the trend in cases such as Regina v. Foubert. Liberal MP Sean Casey questioned the bill's focus on Criminal Code expansion while the government raises the eligibility age for old age security, and NDP MP Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet asked what steps would help seniors navigate the justice system before charges are laid.
Question Period featured repeated exchanges on the F-35 procurement. NDP MP Nycole Turmel said the Auditor General confirmed cabinet hid rising costs from Parliament. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird replied that the government had set and would respect a budget for replacing the CF-18s and was following a seven-point plan announced by the Minister of Public Works and Government Services.
Further exchanges in Question Period addressed changes to environmental assessment and fisheries rules contained in the budget bill. NDP MP Peggy Nash said the measures exempt projects from review and weaken fish habitat protection. Conservative MP David Anderson said the changes modernize regulation to encourage investment while protecting the environment.
Decided that day
- C-310 advanced one stage
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Who held the floor · 2012-04-27
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National Defence
Liberal MP Stéphane Dion asked whether a single-engine fighter with limited range and payload could meet Arctic sovereignty needs, and called for a competitive bidding process. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird noted that Dion had sat in cabinet when the previous Liberal government spent hundreds of millions designing the aircraft.
Read the exchangeStatus of Women
NDP MP Niki Ashton said the government had reopened debate on women's right to choose despite election promises, and asked when the Prime Minister would tell his caucus that such rights are not negotiable. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird replied that the Prime Minister had been clear before and after every election that the government would not reopen the issue.
Read the exchangeOffice of the Inspector General
NDP MP Rosane Doré Lefebvre asked why the government was eliminating the CSIS Inspector General and removing independent oversight. Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner said the responsibilities would be merged into the Security Intelligence Review Committee to eliminate duplication and save one million dollars a year while preserving accountability.
Read the exchangeCriminal Code
Conservative MP Joy Smith moved third reading of her private member's bill C-310 to strengthen Criminal Code provisions on trafficking in persons and said further amendments were not needed at this stage. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux said his party supported the bill and was prepared to see it pass without delay.
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- deflectedNational DefenceMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids accountability question by shifting to unrelated hockey congratulations and restating budget plan.
before I answer that question, I know many members of the House will want me to congratulate the Ottawa Senators on a great season this past year.
- deflectedNational DefenceMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects all statements in question without addressing trust or credibility issues raised.
I disagree with all of the statements in the member's question.
- misdirectedGovernment PoliciesMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to economic talking points instead of addressing F-35 or policy choices questioned.
the path that this government has chosen is the path of economic growth and long-term prosperity.
- answeredStatus of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the Prime Minister's position on not reopening the debate.
the Prime Minister has always been very clear, before every election and since: we will not reopen this debate.
- answeredStatus of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly reaffirms no intention to reopen debate despite accusations of hypocrisy.
the government and the Prime Minister have no intention of reopening the debate on this issue.
- misdirectedNational DefenceStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner's past cabinet role instead of addressing current F-35 suitability concerns.
that member sat around the cabinet table when the previous Liberal government spent hundreds of millions of dollars designing this aircraft.
- partly answeredNational DefenceStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses acceptance of Auditor General recommendations but ignores abdication of responsibility and letter rejection.
this government has completely accepted the recommendations that he has come forward with.
- deflectedEthicsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to general spending reductions instead of addressing specific minister's accountability.
our government has reduced overall travel spending by ministers by over 15% from that of the previous Liberal government.
- deflectedOffice of the Inspector GeneralMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to cost savings and attacks NDP instead of addressing oversight concerns.
I know the NDP do not really like saving taxpayer dollars, but we do.
- deflectedOffice of the Inspector GeneralMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats duplicate oversight claim without addressing accountability or chair vacancy.
In fact, the services that are provided are duplicate in their oversight over CSIS
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends regulatory changes but attacks NDP ideology rather than explaining bill placement.
The NDP needs to get beyond its ideological blinders and come and join us to make this into a good project.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.Answer describes benefits of changes but ignores lobbying question and campaign promises.
The changes will provide greater certainty and consistency for stakeholders and will enhance partnership opportunities with the provinces and territories and conservation groups.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP record on industry instead of addressing climate report or round table abolition.
The NDP, over the last several months, has bashed industry with regard to its concern for our environment, including the Canada's Oil Sands Innovation Alliance.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes resource development and attacks opposition but sidesteps emissions standards and budget bill use.
I get tired of the no-development party over there, because it criticizes everybody and praises no one.
- partly answeredEmployment EquityMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains modernization goal but does not address whether equity provisions are outdated or weakened.
The amendment is to include the design and delivery of federal contractors programs.
- deflectedEmployment EquityMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Answer focuses on business success without addressing discrimination reduction or equality assault claim.
We are focused on job creation and economic growth in this country.
- deflectedPensionsMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids addressing studies on vulnerable seniors by accusing NDP of fearmongering and restating sustainability talking points.
I do wish that the NDP would stop the needless scare mongering and fear mongering for our seniors.
- misdirected41st General ElectionWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the robocall and royal commission question to attack the Liberal Party's trustworthiness instead.
Canadians do not trust the Liberal Party, and that is why he is way down there.
- misdirected41st General ElectionWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots from the corruption allegations to attack the Liberal record on the sponsorship scandal rather than addressing the question.
if we look at the Liberal Party's record, it ran a program that stole $363 million from Canadians
- misdirectedSeniorsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer deflects the OAS austerity question by attacking the member's voting record instead of addressing the spending comparison.
Where was she when we were reducing expenses for seniors?
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses whether Parliament will debate the extension by referencing the prior vote and process.
the Prime Minister has always said that he would bring these issues before Parliament, just like we did on November 25, 2010
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the debate/vote question by listing friends in Washington and attacking the NDP's historical foreign policy stance.
The NDP does not support sending troops abroad for anything.
- deflectedInternational TradeMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer sidesteps municipal concerns and closed-door negotiations by attacking the NDP's trade record instead.
The NDP has been very consistent. It opposes trade with every other country in the world.
- deflectedPolitical Party FinancingMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing the specific request to return funds by claiming the party lacks access to riding-level donation info.
The Conservative Party does not have access to information about any such donations.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about Conservative ethics and instead attacks the NDP with unrelated accusations.
It is dubious for the member for Winnipeg Centre to make baseless smears against Canadians across this country and then have to apologize.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the question on ministerial accountability by shifting to unrelated internal NDP issues.
The NDP started out with a caucus that was just slightly larger than the one it has today, probably because following its leadership campaign, the former patron saint of the NDP, Mr. Broadbent, came out and warned people not to put a given individual into leadership.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer addresses the expense issue by noting repayment and reductions but does not engage the rhetorical framing about the Prime Minister.
as we have mentioned several times this week, the minister in question has apologized and has repaid all inappropriate expenses.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the request to separate environmental changes for scrutiny by redirecting to the government's overall approach.
With regard to the budget implementation bill, it is scrutinized under the finance committee where it belongs.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with funding claims and attacks the member's voting record instead of addressing the cuts to Environment Canada.
if my colleague opposite delved into the budget that she is maligning at length, she would note that the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act received increased funding this year, yet she voted against it.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Robert Goguen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides details on related family violence funding but does not address the aboriginal justice strategy specifically.
Our budget has proposed funding of $11.9 million over one year for the family violence prevention program, which would allow the department of aboriginal affairs to continue to offer current programming at a total budget of $30.4 million.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Robert Goguen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on funding the justice strategy and instead attacks the NDP's voting record on other justice bills.
I would like to remind the House about how the opposition members have been voting lately on justice issues.
- deflectedAir CanadaStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question about the lack of reply to the mayors by citing court proceedings instead.
Since this matter is before the courts, for Aveos in particular, we have no further comments to make.
- deflectedNational Council of WelfareMr. Dany Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The response discusses general anti-poverty investments and program duplication without addressing the National Council of Welfare closure.
Through our review of the programs that the government offers, we recognized that there was some duplication of effort.
- partly answeredGovernment ProgramsMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Mr. Mike Lake (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains program changes and alternatives but does not address the belief question or the hotel room comparison.
Free computers will still be made available, however, through the federal government's computers for schools program, which collects, repairs and refurbishes donated surplus computers from government and private-sector sources and distributes them to schools, public libraries and not-for-profit learning organizations throughout Canada.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the current review process but does not address the request to separate environment-related bills for specific committees.
I would remind my colleague opposite that what is included in the budget implementation act is reviewed through the finance committee.