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Wednesday, April 4, 2012 · sitting No. 106
Budget debate leads Commons as NDP attacks cuts to jobs and services
Government orders on the budget consumed the largest share of the sitting. Opposition members said the plan would eliminate thousands of public service positions and scale back services across the country while increasing the retirement age.
In question period the NDP pressed the government on accountability for the F-35 procurement after the Auditor General's report. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government accepted the report's recommendations and had not yet purchased any aircraft.
Decided that day
- Bill C-310 passed
- budgetary policy approved
- C-19 given royal assent
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-04-04
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Canada Revenue Agency
NDP MP Hoang Mai said the government was cutting resources at the Canada Revenue Agency while tax cheaters cost billions; Minister Gail Shea said the agency had recovered more than $4 billion in unpaid taxes since 2006.
Read the exchangeEmployment
NDP MP Nycole Turmel said the budget would eliminate 19,000 public service jobs and 40,000 more in the private sector; Conservative MP Andrew Saxton said the measures would reduce the federal public service by about 4 per cent over three years.
Read the exchangeFirearms Registry
Conservative MP Kevin Sorenson asked for an update on ending the registry; Parliamentary Secretary Candice Hoeppner said the Senate would vote for the last time that day.
Read the exchangeGasoline Prices
NDP MP Guy Caron said Quebec families faced sharp price increases at the pump and called for a gasoline prices ombudsman; Minister Christian Paradis said the government had reduced the GST and introduced the Fairness at the Pumps Act.
Read the exchangeCanadian Broadcasting Corporation
Liberal MP Scott Simms said Conservative cuts would eliminate 650 jobs and end service in rural areas; Minister James Moore said the budget provided the funds needed for the CBC to fulfill its mandate under the Broadcasting Act.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refers to AG report without naming any responsible individual.
the Auditor General's report was very clear about responsibilities.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly affirms that the minister did his job.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the government and the ministers accept their responsibilities
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer disputes premise instead of addressing calls for accountability.
the leader of the NDP is putting words into the Auditor General's mouth that he certainly never said.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists actions taken but avoids addressing minister's personal responsibility.
On the contrary, Mr. Speaker, the government is acting on the recommendations of the Auditor General.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects NDP suggestion and shifts to contracts and equipment needs.
The course of action suggested by the leader of the NDP is not the course of action suggested by the Auditor General.
- partly answeredNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims responsibility for acting on recommendations but not for the original misinformation.
the government is taking the responsibility to act on his recommendations.
- deflectedNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses US costs and contracts instead of when the Prime Minister became aware.
it is the Government of the United States that has agreed to cover escalation in the development costs.
- deflectedNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats actions on recommendations without addressing calls to replace leadership.
The Auditor General's report was very clear about responsibilities.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accepts report but avoids assigning fault by shifting to future actions.
we accept the conclusions of the Auditor General and will implement his recommendations.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates actions taken instead of addressing why no open tender now.
We agree. However, we will also go further than that to ensure that taxpayer dollars are respected.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer rejects premise and outlines process without taking personal responsibility.
of course the member is wrong. The Auditor General has provided conclusions and has made recommendations and we have accepted those.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer attacks the member's advice instead of addressing ministerial accountability.
I would advise the member opposite to do the same.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores past minister's role and repeats current plan.
We agree with him but we will go one step further to ensure taxpayers' interests are protected
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to unrelated shipbuilding success instead of addressing the named minister's role.
I would remind the hon. member that the largest procurement in the history of Canada was the shipbuilding procurement strategy
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accepts report but avoids explaining attacks on PBO.
the Auditor General spoke and we have accepted his recommendations.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores call for apology and restates commitment to process.
Canada will not purchase new aircraft until further due diligence, oversight and transparency are applied to the process
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the yes/no request for hearings by deferring to the committee without committing.
committee business is up to the committee, but I would encourage as much transparency as possible on this file.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise about the Auditor General and does not address the resignation demand.
The member should be very careful about mischaracterizing the words of the Auditor General.
- deflectedNational DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is rhetorical with insults and no actionable request; the answer ignores the firing demand and restates process steps.
We have also asked, through the secretariat, that annual updates to Parliament on the performance schedules and the cost estimates are also made public.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise of misleading statements and pivots to actions taken without addressing resignation.
in actual fact, no such thing has happened.
- partly answeredCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the Auditor General's findings and steps taken but does not explain why funding is being cut.
We agree with the recommendations contained in the report and we are taking steps to address the issues that have been identified.
- deflectedCanada Revenue AgencyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights past achievements and voluntary disclosures but does not address the proposed budget cuts to CRA.
since 2006, the CRA has audited thousands of cases of tax evasion, identified more than $4 billion in unpaid taxes through our efforts on aggressive tax planning.
- deflectedEmploymentMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the plan and modest savings but does not address the claimed job losses in the private sector or economic harm.
We have found fair, balanced and moderate savings measures to reduce the deficit, which would reduce the size of the federal public service by about 4% over the next three years.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the budget's purpose and claims modest savings without identifying which services might be affected.
Savings measures contained within the budget are modest.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites an investigation to avoid any comment on the relationship or actions.
the member for Timmins—James Bay knows full well that this is under investigation. Therefore, it would be inappropriate for me to comment.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the query by accusing the asker of throwing dirt and restating the investigation excuse.
we know the member for Timmins—James Bay likes to throw dirt around this place.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the patronage and ethics claims and states a general policy without addressing the specific appointment.
People must be appointed based on merit, and that is what we always do.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the merit claim and deflects by suggesting the asker review qualifications instead of addressing scandals or resignation.
all appointments, including this one, are made based on merit.
- partly answeredCanadian Broadcasting CorporationMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly counters the premise on cuts and funding by referencing the CBC president's speech and budget details.
in fact, the member opposite has it exactly wrong.
- partly answeredCanadian Broadcasting CorporationDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses funding sufficiency and contrasts with past Liberal cuts but ends by attacking the opposition's position.
in our budget, the CBC has sufficient funds to fulfill its mandate under the Broadcasting Act.
- misdirectedGasoline PricesMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the asker's carbon tax support instead of addressing the ombudsman request or gas prices.
what is really interesting is that the member is a carbon tax advocate.
- misdirectedGasoline PricesMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing the carbon tax and past actions rather than responding to the ombudsman or oil subsidies query.
if the member were serious about this matter, he would stop advocating for a carbon tax, which would be devastating for the economy of Canada.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists alternative groups but sidesteps the specific cuts, eliminations, and risk of disaster raised.
There is a plethora, in fact, of groups and organizations across academia and across business, even many NGOs, domestic as well as international, that do have today the scientific and research capacity that did not exist broadly when the national round table was created.
- deflectedRights & DemocracyMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer affirms general values without addressing the shutdown of Rights & Democracy or loss of credibility.
We do believe in promoting freedom. We do believe in promoting democracy and human rights.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMs. Élaine Michaud (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the claim false and attacks the opposition instead of addressing the job cuts at bases.
It is true that the member and her party have opposed every investment we have made in equipment, in bases, in support for the men and women in uniform and their families.
- deflectedTransportMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer focuses on regulatory safety and past tanker traffic but ignores the question about overriding British Columbians' will.
our government is confident that sound regulations are in place to ensure petroleum products are transported safely along the B.C. coast.
- deflectedPrivilegeBob Rae (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates agreement with the Auditor General without addressing the factual disagreements noted in the report.
our government believes very strongly that the Auditor General's recommendations and conclusions were accurate, and we agree with them.
- deflectedPrivilegeBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reaffirms acceptance of the findings while avoiding the contradiction between ministerial statements and the report's content.
This government has clearly expressed, through the ministers here, the views we have that we accept the findings of the Auditor General and the recommendations.