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Tuesday, February 14, 2012 · sitting No. 80
Commons limits debate on financial institutions bill
Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a time allocation motion to limit second reading debate on Bill S-5, An Act to amend the law governing financial institutions and to provide for related and consequential matters, to one further sitting day. The motion passed after 54 per cent of the sitting was consumed by the measure and related exchanges. New Democratic Party house leader Joe Comartin said the motion was the 16th such order since the 41st Parliament began and accused the government of abusing power.
Liberal MP Massimo Pacetti called the bill non-controversial and noted it had already passed the Senate. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan replied that the official opposition had forced repeated time allocation by refusing to agree on reasonable debate timelines for several bills.
In Question Period, NDP Leader Nycole Turmel pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on reports that Canada would accept information obtained through torture and on proposed changes to self-defence rules. Harper said the government follows a detailed protocol to protect Canadians and that legislation before the House would clarify self-defence rights.
Decided that day
- Bill S-5 passed
- Bills C-395, S-7 and C-30 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-02-14
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Other moments
National Defence
NDP MP Peter Julian said the government was determined to waste $30 billion on jets that do not meet Canada's needs while workers waited for employment insurance cheques. Defence Minister Julian Fantino replied that the Royal Canadian Air Force requires equipment to protect sovereignty and that the CF-18s must be replaced.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Linda Duncan asked the government to commit resources to address inequities in First Nations education after a Valentine rally on Parliament Hill. Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan said the government had signed five education partnership agreements and would review the national panel's recommendations.
Read the exchangeNatural Resources
NDP MP Megan Leslie said the government was spending thousands of dollars to give oil companies lobbying training while cutting other services. Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver replied that the government had invested more than $10 billion in clean energy and that the oil sector would create hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
NDP MP Peter Stoffer said Veterans Affairs had again breached the privacy of a veteran serving on the Veterans Review and Appeal Board. Veterans Affairs Minister Steven Blaney said any show of disrespect toward veterans was unacceptable and that corrective measures would be applied.
Read the exchangeInternational Trade
NDP MP Mike Sullivan said Toronto city council feared the Canada-EU trade deal would reduce the city's ability to promote local jobs. International Trade Minister Gerald Keddy said the deal would boost bilateral trade by 20 per cent and create almost 80,000 jobs.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the torture claim entirely and pivots to a generic safety protocol.
we have a highly detailed protocol for ensuring the safety of Canadians under any circumstances.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to existing legislation and past NDP support rather than addressing warning shots.
The NDP used to support that legislation.
- deflectedGovernment PrioritiesMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies reopening debates but does not address the orchestrated-slope accusation.
as we have said repeatedly, we do not intend to reopen certain debates.
- partly answeredPensionsMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms no cuts to current seniors but only partly addresses the 2020 age-67 change.
We will not cut our seniors' pensions.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates long-term F-35 involvement and budget but does not confirm reconsideration of the order.
It will operate within that budget.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes past Liberal and NDP support and pivots to attacking the Liberal position instead of responding to the judge.
those particular changes passed by this government were in fact supported by the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again highlights Liberal support and questions Liberal consistency rather than addressing civility.
When the leader of the Liberal Party criticizes a policy on crimes committed with firearms that his party supported, the real question is what is the Liberal Party's position?
- deflectedPublic SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the policy via provincial consensus but never addresses the Hitler/pedophile labels or civility request.
the changes in the lawful access legislation have not only been sought by police to protect our young people from pedophiles, but they have in fact been supported by every single provincial government and every single attorney general
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly refutes the spying claims and clarifies the need for judicial warrants.
There is nothing in the bill that would allow police to snoop on an individual's private conversations or even to follow a person's activities on the Internet.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the questioner's honesty and reading ability rather than addressing the bill's content.
He is either incapable of reading or incapable of being honest.
- answeredPublic SafetyMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses judicial oversight but includes a sarcastic personal remark about love.
As I have made clear, we are ensuring that there is judicial oversight and there is accountability by the police when they obtain information.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to provincial support and a personal jab about the member's caucus instead of addressing the commissioner's criticism.
As for love in that caucus, I understand the member just left that caucus for the third party.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions ongoing work and agreements but does not commit to the requested resources or panel plan.
We will review the national panel's recommendations and continue working for first nations students.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights existing partnerships and K-12 focus but avoids committing to full partnership on all educational needs.
That is why that joint action plan prioritized K-12 education.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the air force role without addressing the cost overruns or alternatives raised.
Canada's CF-18s are nearing the end of their life cycle and we will ensure Canada's air force is properly equipped for the job we ask of the air force.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses context and pivots to sovereignty needs without addressing plan B or cost issues.
The one thing that is in context is that unlike the NDP, Canadians want our air force to have the ability to protect our sovereignty and defend our interests at home and abroad.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer supplies some timeline facts but pivots to attacking the NDP's motives rather than addressing the cover-up allegation.
Why does the NDP not want our men and women in the forces to have the best equipment possible?
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates prior party history and privacy claims without engaging the editorial's evidence critique.
10 years ago the member's party brought forward the predecessor bill.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly describes the warrant and reporting mechanisms but ignores the encryption and existing powers points.
we have put into place a mechanism by which police will have to go to a judge to get the authority for a warrant before any intrusive action is taken.
- deflectedPublic SafetyHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites prior legislation and urges consultation with police but does not address the backlog or Supreme Court ruling.
the hon. member may have forgotten we have brought forward legislation already to assist with the backlogs in courts
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights clean-energy spending and job numbers while ignoring the specific request for equal treatment of renewables.
this government has spent over $10 billion investing in clean energy, alternative energy.
- misdirectedNatural ResourcesMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question with sarcasm and accuses the NDP of siding with foreigners instead of addressing climate or lobbying concerns.
In its ongoing battle against jobs, the economy and the national interest, the NDP takes the side of foreigners against the side of Canadians.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Kennedy Stewart (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes trade success and future jobs but sidesteps the panda-versus-jobs calculation and opposition dismissal.
the trip to China was extraordinarily successful in building a relationship with the largest consumer of energy in the world
- misdirectedNatural ResourcesMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mocks the NDP's pipeline stance and shifts to unrelated GHG statistics rather than addressing refinery job losses or public opposition.
it seems the NDP wants to build refineries but does not want to build pipelines, so the oil would presumably just stay there.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids any apology or inquiry by stressing general care and arm's-length status instead.
the Veterans Review and Appeal Board is an arm's-length organization.
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP voting record rather than addressing the privacy breach or apology request.
What is unacceptable is that the New Democrats have filled 13 pages with votes against veterans.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and pivots to listing CETA benefits without addressing municipal autonomy.
I reject the premise of the hon. member's question but I will tell him what the CETA with Europe will do.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses concerns and rejects the question outright instead of engaging with municipal rights.
I totally reject the hon. member's question.
- misdirectedJusticeIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's past record rather than addressing mandatory minimums and the Charter.
if the hon. member has a problem with mandatory penalties why did he support them as justice minister
- deflectedJusticeMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the question nonsense and restates the bill without engaging the vigilantism claim.
that is a complete bunch of nonsense.
- answeredInfrastructureMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the deadline breach and policy change that led to withdrawing funding.
this project was accepted on the basis that the work was to begin on January 1, 2010, and end on December 31, 2011.
- partly answeredInfrastructureMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the professional-team concern but does not engage on collaborating with regional stakeholders.
We now have a program that prevents us from investing in professional sports facilities.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promises future discussion but provides no immediate action or decision on funding.
They will be having a conversation on that and I will take that question under advisement.
- deflectedHomelessnessMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights existing investments without addressing the program's potential end or immediate funding increase.
For the first time in many years, there was stable funding to help the homeless.
- deflectedCanada PostMr. Pierre Dionne Labelle (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions past actions and criticizes the opposition's vote rather than directly addressing price hikes.
The member and his colleagues voted against the latest budget.
- answeredForeign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The minister directly refuses to amend but then criticizes the member's position on investments.
I urge the member to stand up with us in welcoming foreign investment that will benefit Canada, instead of rejecting virtually every single economic opportunity in this country.