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Thursday, December 15, 2011 · sitting No. 68
Commons debates citizen's arrest bill before adjourning until January
The House spent most of the day on second reading of Bill C-26, the Citizen's Arrest and Self-defence Act. New Democratic MP Mike Sullivan said the bill reprises the Lucky Moose private member's bill and redefines self-defence in the Criminal Code, while raising concerns about a grey area that could allow intervention by people not in immediate harm. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux asked whether the NDP would propose amendments at committee. The House agreed on division to deem the second-reading motion adopted at adjournment.
The House also adopted a motion to stand adjourned until Monday, January 30, 2012. In Question Period, New Democratic MP Nycole Turmel pressed the government on committee meetings held in camera, unapproved spending and travel expenses by the minister of national defence. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the government would stay focused on jobs and economic growth.
Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett asked the government to visit Attawapiskat to assess housing conditions after meeting the chief. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan said the meeting between the minister of Aboriginal affairs and the chief had produced agreement on emergency aid and modular homes.
Decided that day
- C-20 received royal assent
- C-386 introduced
- S-5 advanced in first chamber
- S-203 passed second reading
- C-26 passed second reading
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2011-12-15
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Pensions
New Democratic MP Wayne Marston urged the government to support an NDP plan to enhance the Canada Pension Plan at the finance ministers' meeting. Conservative MP Ted Menzies said the government had consulted all provinces and offered a low-cost private-sector plan.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
New Democratic MP Christine Moore said Canada would pay an extra $35 million to Washington for F-35 research and development. Associate Minister of National Defence Julian Fantino said the joint strike fighter partnership would guarantee the lowest price paid by the United States.
Read the exchangeEmployment Insurance
Liberal MP Judy Foote asked whether the government would help families facing a massive employment-insurance backlog. Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development Diane Finley said extra resources were being added to process claims quickly.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
Conservative MP John Weston asked about assistance for Canadians in Syria. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said a voluntary evacuation had been declared with facilitated consular services.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedGovernment of CanadaMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores all specific allegations and pivots to unrelated economic record.
our government and our country have a very good track record in terms of job creation and growth
- deflectedGovernment of CanadaMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects assertions without addressing them and returns to economy talking points.
I do not accept the assertions in that question at all
- answeredCanada-U.S. BorderMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states no decision has been made and clarifies the plan's intent.
no such decision has been made
- answeredCanada-U.S. BorderMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states no decisions made and restates border policy goals.
no decisions have been made regarding the draft report to which the member refers
- deflectedCanada-U.S. BorderMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects premise and attacks the member for not supporting auto workers.
Why will the member not stand up for auto workers in Windsor
- partly answeredMinister of National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses hotel choice but ignores helicopter and reimbursement demands.
Canada books rooms at the same hotel where the conference takes place
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses meeting outcomes but avoids third-party management critique and invitation.
Today's meeting between the minister and the Attawapiskat chief represents a positive step forward
- misdirectedJusticeStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Mr. Robert Goguen (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to defending the bill's purpose instead of addressing provincial cost disclosure.
People who break the law will spend Christmas in jail and the victims will be protected
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes positive progress and third-party results without addressing the accusations of confrontation or broken relationships.
my read of today's meeting is that it was a positive and constructive event, a good step forward.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer provides funding figures and references a joint plan but sidesteps the core claim about slashed capital funding and silencing calls for justice.
since we became the government, $1.5 billion has been allocated for housing.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the spending critique and pivots to a light-hearted remark about fairies while offering general economic assurances.
I do not know why the hon. member casts aspersions on fairies.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights job numbers and credit ratings but does not engage with the comparison of NDP versus Conservative money management or specific spending criticisms.
The IMF and the OECD predict that Canada will have the strongest economic growth, not only this year but next year.
- partly answeredPensionsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references provincial support and a private-sector plan but does not directly address support for the NDP CPP enhancement proposal.
we actually do have a plan that is supported by all of the provinces.
- misdirectedPensionsMr. Alain Giguère (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to the minister's personal consultations without addressing the provinces' or experts' alleged support for the NDP plan.
I personally have consulted with a tremendous number of Canadians.
- answeredPensionsMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly responds to the interjection by affirming consultation with real people and explaining the pooled pension plan option.
I have consulted with many real people, not only those who are retired but those who are looking at retirement someday
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer asserts continued commitment to the F-35 choice without addressing the specific $35 million payment or the Prime Minister's prior statement on R&D costs.
the development phase of the F-35 program continues with our partners.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mocks the questioner about Christmas and pivots to general partnership statements without addressing the $35 million claim or misleading accusation.
I feel a sense of duty to point out to the member opposite that this is the Christmas season, not the silly season.
- deflectedJusticeMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked Mr. Robert Goguen (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the cost discrepancy and instead recites victim-impact talking points plus a holiday greeting.
The cost of crime is roughly $99.6 billion and 83% of that cost is absorbed by the victims.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer avoids the in-camera and free-speech issues by shifting to economic gridlock comparisons and government achievements.
One of the things that we see when we compare Canada with other countries is we have a strong economy.
- deflectedGovernment AccountabilityIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives a blanket claim of transparency without addressing any of the three specific non-disclosure examples raised.
our government has an unprecedented commitment to transparency and openness reflected in the statutes that we have passed to ensure accountability.
- answeredHuman RightsIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly details the diplomatic steps taken after the member raised the case and states the ongoing demand for release.
When the member brought it to my attention, within a matter of hours we were in contact with the Egyptian ambassador.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites G7 job-creation statistics instead of addressing the specific Quebec layoffs or the requested job-creation plan.
Canada has the best job creation record of any country in the G7, of any major industrialized country in the world.
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the layoffs and references prior pension-protection legislation but does not address the NDP bill or immediate changes for the affected workers.
We actually brought forward legislation just last year to make sure those pensions were as fully funded as they could be in case there was a bankruptcy
- partly answeredEmploymentMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes concern for affected workers and lists existing forestry funding but does not address the requested new action or the auto-versus-forestry disparity.
$100 million to create jobs and increase economic activity, including $20 million for silvicultural work.
- deflectedEmploymentMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer counters growth claims but ignores EI cuts and unemployment specifics.
In fact, Canada's economy is expected to grow modestly next year.
- answeredSearch and RescueMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses service impact and staff relocation.
this consolidation will have no service impact to mariners relating to the provisions of safety, communications and navigational warnings to ships at sea.
- answeredSearch and RescueMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly rebuts service reduction and Arctic impact claims.
with today's technology, it will have no impact on the safety and the concerns of mariners.
- answeredTransportation of Dangerous GoodsMs. Isabelle Morin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accepts audit and commits to action plan.
We will implement a rigorous action plan in order to correct this situation.
- deflectedTransportation of Dangerous GoodsMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats stats and mocks repetition instead of addressing delays.
speaking of new tapes, I note that the hon. member has just asked exactly the same question as his colleague.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner rather than addressing consular cases.
For the member at this time of year to so wrongfully and unfairly smear them is just beyond belief.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses EI processing resources but ignores luxury hotel criticism.
That is why we are putting extra resources to process these claims.
- deflectedAffordable HousingMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites past spending and attacks NDP vote instead of renewal commitment.
Unfortunately the NDP voted against all these initiatives.
- deflectedAffordable HousingMr. Dany Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's voting record instead of addressing renewal of social housing agreements.
the NDP should try to support our efforts to help people who need affordable housing.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to discuss the case citing privacy and lectures the asker rather than addressing the policy inconsistency.
The member has been here for a while. He should know that the appropriate way to raise individual immigration case files is directly with my officials, my office or me, not in a public forum that invites violation of the Privacy Act.
- answeredCanada Post CorporationMs. Alexandrine Latendresse (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the relocation of the post office, distance to alternatives, and lack of job losses.
Canada Post is proposing to move the post office in the member's riding about two kilometres away to a new outlet.
- partly answeredRail TransportationMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes existing bus and road alternatives but does not commit to funding or address the rail repair timeline.
In regard to the member's riding, VIA Rail service between Victoria and Courtenay is also paralleled by bus service and road service so people can get from point A to point B.
- misdirectedGovernment of CanadaMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois instead of responding to the list of federal decisions harming Quebec.
That is why they are at the back of the House.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is a holiday statement rather than a query, and the answer responds in kind by summarizing session accomplishments.
The fall has been a productive, hard-working and orderly session.