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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 · sitting No. 61
Commons advances fair representation act after deleting clauses
The House spent most of the day in Government Orders debating Bill C-20, the Fair Representation Act. NDP MP David Christopherson moved Motion No. 1 to delete Clause 1, arguing the bill still fails to achieve fair representation from a historical and nation-building perspective. Bloc Québécois MP André Bellavance moved Motions No. 2 and No. 7 to delete Clauses 2 and 4.
In Question Period the main clashes centred on the use of a government aircraft by the Minister of National Defence. NDP MP Nycole Turmel accused the minister of fabricating a search-and-rescue demonstration to leave a fishing camp. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the aircraft was used for government business.
Liberal MP Bob Rae pressed the Prime Minister on the same issue and on alleged false statements in a campaign against the member for Mount Royal. The Prime Minister rejected the premise of the questions.
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Aboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Charlie Angus read a letter from a 12-year-old resident describing ice in windows and mould, calling the situation a humanitarian tragedy. Conservative MP Greg Rickford said third-party management is in place to address urgent health and safety needs.
Read the exchangeFirearms Registry
NDP MP Françoise Boivin said dangerous weapons like the Ruger Mini-14 will circulate freely without safeguards once the registry ends. Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner replied that ending the registry targets criminals and does not affect licensing requirements.
Read the exchangeAsbestos
NDP MP Pat Martin accused the government of cheerleading for the asbestos cartel and seeking duty-free exports to India. Conservative MP Christian Paradis said the government has supported the safe use of chrysotile in controlled environments for 30 years.
Read the exchangePort of Montreal
NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice read transcripts alleging influence peddling by Leo Housakos and Dimitri Soudas in appointments at the Port of Montreal. Conservative MP Denis Lebel replied that the chair is appointed by the board of directors and no influence peddling occurred.
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- deflectedSearch and RescueMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is a mocking poem rather than a factual query, and the answer claims prior response without addressing the call to fire the minister.
The minister said that his use of the government aircraft was for government business and that clearly was the case.
- deflectedSearch and RescueMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is an attack demanding resignation with no factual query, and the answer restates a talking point instead of engaging.
the opposition claims that the aircraft was used for personal reasons, but it is clear that it was used for government business.
- deflectedPort of MontrealMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes inner-circle pressure and asks for confirmation, but the answer avoids confirming or denying by citing board responsibility.
that appointment is the responsibility of the Port of Montreal's board of directors, and the board made its own decision in this case.
- answeredPort of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks for the role of a specific individual, and the answer directly states none and explains the appointment process.
- answeredPort of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks for the role of another individual, and the answer directly denies influence peddling while explaining the board process.
he was not appointed chair, end of story; there was no influence peddling.
- deflectedSearch and RescueBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The question highlights a factual inconsistency in the minister's statement, but the answer shifts blame to the opposition without addressing the discrepancy.
it was the opposition that said that the aircraft was used for personal reasons, when it is clear that the minister used it on government business.
- misdirectedPhone Calls to Mount Royal ConstituencyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes government dishonesty and demands responsibility, and the answer rejects the premise outright rather than engaging.
I utterly reject the premise and the so-called facts in that question.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The question criticizes the response to Attawapiskat as insufficient and disrespectful, and the answer addresses immediate needs and accountability but ignores the apology reference.
this government has made it very clear at every stage that it has been and will continue to respond to the immediate needs of that community.
- answeredPort of MontrealMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the appointment process for the chair.
the chair of the Montreal Port Authority is appointed by the board of directors.
- deflectedPort of MontrealMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids influence peddling by praising the board and attacking the opposition.
While the opposition is trying to make political hay with this, the board of directors is helping us to find solutions so that the public gets something that works.
- deflectedSearch and RescueMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates personal timeline instead of addressing the call to apologize.
I was on personal time on a trip I paid for myself.
- deflectedSearch and RescueMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer refers back to prior response without engaging the demand to resign.
I have already answered this question.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains third-party management role but does not address whether it makes the tragedy disappear.
Third party management is in place to address these urgent health and safety needs.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists general investments instead of addressing effectiveness of third-party management.
We have made specific targeted investments in first nations priorities like education, water, waste water infrastructure, and housing under Canada's economic action plan.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the asker's colleagues rather than addressing the infrastructure plan request.
that member then would be ashamed that his colleagues, in a previous session, voted against the infrastructure that we have been putting into those first nations communities.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to general gun crime policy and attacks NDP instead of addressing the Mini-14 sale safeguards.
Our government believes the best way to tackle violent gun crime is to ensure individuals who commit crimes with firearms are in jail.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer promotes government policy instead of addressing the specific criticism about understanding police and victims.
our government is taking real action to combat violent gun crime.
- partly answeredSearch and RescueJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the hiding claim but evades the call to do the honourable thing by reimbursing.
I am not hiding, Mr. Speaker, I am right here.
- deflectedPort of MontrealDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to the board of directors instead of answering when the PM knew of the RCMP investigation.
I would note that the board of directors of the Port of Montreal appoints a president.
- deflectedPort of MontrealDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the board appointment point and avoids the security report or infiltration claims.
After voting as its mandate instructs it, the board of directors appointed a president.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the asker as denigrating Canada rather than addressing the Kyoto withdrawal or leadership role.
Before she continues to denigrate our country, I would like to remind her of a few things.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP carbon tax instead of explaining the walk-away from negotiations.
if my colleague opposite would have those in the international community ignore Canada, this is what she would have them pay attention to
- answeredService CanadaMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer directly states they will continue the overtime tradition to process claims quickly.
We will continue the tradition this year of putting extra resources toward EI processing to make sure that Canadians get their benefits as quickly as possible.
- answeredService CanadaMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer corrects the premise and confirms extra resources will be added for EI processing.
we have a very long tradition of putting extra resources in EI processing for the season and just before Christmas so that Canadians get their benefits as quickly as possible.
- deflectedCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Mr. Bob Dechert (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids naming any specific information by pivoting to general privacy assurances and economic talking points.
The United States will not end up with more information than is already accessible.
- deflectedCanada-U.S. RelationsMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Mr. Bob Dechert (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the request for details by citing past consultations and an election campaign instead of addressing the agreement's contents.
This issue was discussed with Canadians during the recent federal election campaign.
- deflectedAsbestosMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the call for a transition plan and instead repeats the government's long-standing position on safe use of chrysotile.
Chrysotile can be used safely in a controlled environment that is properly regulated, either at the national or international level.
- misdirectedAsbestosMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise of the question by accusing the asker of ignoring risk management while restating the same position.
with all due respect, my colleague made no mention of risk management.
- partly answeredOcean Choice InternationalMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses assistance via Service Canada programs but does not speak to federal help for the provincial government or the regions.
Service Canada does have programs to work with the provinces and employers to help the people who have been laid off get access to all the benefits to which they are entitled as quickly as possible
- misdirectedVeterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Ms. Eve Adams (Conservative). loaded question.The answer deflects by attacking the previous Liberal government and listing unrelated spending rather than explaining the current cut.
In fact, it was the previous Liberal government that cut assistance for funeral and burial costs by half.
- answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly commits to the requested full-scale investigation and names the body that will conduct it.
I have asked the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP to investigate allegations of systemic failures to deal appropriately with sexual harassment in the RCMP.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Marie-Claude Morin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references steps already taken but does not commit to new corrective action beyond the existing investigation.
We have taken a number of steps, both in the new contract that we signed with the province and also with the new commissioner, to ensure that there is a complete investigation of what may be systemic failure to deal appropriately with sexual harassment within the force.
- deflectedSearch and RescueBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the yes-or-no question by claiming prior responses and stating an unrelated fact.
I left time off to go back to work.
- partly answeredCanadian Food Inspection AgencyMr. Alex Atamanenko (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses animal welfare enforcement and fines but does not respond to ending the industry.
- deflectedWomen Living in PovertyMs. Mylène Freeman (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters the premise by listing programs but does not address the specific refusals mentioned.
our government has done a great deal to help women get out of poverty.
- deflectedFirearms RegistryMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses remembrance and prevention but avoids the question on transferring registry data.
We want to ensure that the violent and tragic events that occurred 22 years ago never occur again.