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Tuesday, November 15, 2011 · sitting No. 46

Commons debates jobs bill as trade and F-35 clashes erupt in question period

The House spent most of the day on government orders debating amendments to Bill C-13, the Keeping Canada's Economy and Jobs Growing Act. NDP MP Peter Julian moved to delete Clause 162, arguing the government had broken an election promise on Supreme Court matters, while Conservative MP Shelly Glover defended the bill as the next phase of the economic action plan that would create conditions for business growth.

Question period featured sharp exchanges on international trade. NDP MP Nycole Turmel pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on whether supply management would be protected in trans-Pacific partnership talks, and Harper replied that Canada would promote all sectors at the table while accusing the NDP of opposing every free trade measure.

Further clashes arose over the F-35 fighter jet program and the long-gun registry. NDP MP Christine Moore questioned National Defence Minister Julian Fantino on rising costs and allied withdrawals, and Fantino said opposition plans would cancel needed equipment and put aerospace workers out of jobs.

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Who held the floor · 2011-11-15

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 50%, opposition 50% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
56Economy bill advances amid deflected answersThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to the Keeping Canada's Economy and Jobs Growing Act and saw three bills introduced. Question period produced mostly deflected or misdirected replies, though interruptions remained minimal and substantive discussion dominated.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canadian Wheat Board

Liberal MP Ralph Goodale asked whether at least $100 million of Canadian Wheat Board money was being diverted to end the single desk, and Harper replied that the only misappropriation was by the board itself campaigning against farmers' views.

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Firearms Registry

NDP MP Jack Harris said police chiefs wanted to retain registry data for public safety and border control, and Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said the analysis was flawed and that Bill C-19 would end the wasteful registry.

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Champlain Bridge

NDP MP Jamie Nicholls cited a 2010 inspection report showing urgent repairs needed on the Champlain Bridge and asked for an action plan, and Transport Minister Denis Lebel said $380 million had already been invested and a new bridge would be built.

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police

NDP MP Irene Mathyssen demanded immediate action on sexual harassment in the RCMP rather than waiting for a new commissioner, and Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said the government would raise the issue with the incoming commissioner.

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Financial Literacy

Conservative MP James Rajotte moved a private member's motion calling for a single website and disclosure by banks to improve financial literacy, and NDP MP Glenn Thibeault said the motion failed to address needs of low-income families.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    International TradeMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining what changed by restating general policy on protecting sectors.Canada's position is always that we will protect and promote all our sectors—including our supply management system—in free trade negotiations throughout the world.
  2. misdirected
    International TradeMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Shifts focus to attacking the NDP's record on free trade instead of giving guarantees.However, what the Leader of the Opposition said is completely untrue.
  3. deflected
    International TradeMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids a direct yes-or-no answer on whether supply management is on the table.It is always our intention when we go to the table to ensure we produce, we protect and we promote the interests of all Canadian sectors, including supply management.
  4. answered
    International TradeMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). loaded question.Directly addresses trust by stating the framework allows defending supply management without compromise.we determined that Canada can meet and even exceed the level of ambition called for without in any way compromising Canada's ability to stand up for the supply managed sector.
  5. answered
    International TradeMr. Jean Rousseau (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Assures the member they will defend supply management in the negotiations.I can assure the member that we will continue to stand up for the interests of farmers and that we will defend Canada's system of supply management.
  6. misdirected
    Canadian Wheat BoardRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Denies the premise by accusing the Wheat Board of misappropriation rather than confirming the claim.the only misappropriation is by the Wheat Board itself in taking farmers' money to run a campaign against farmers' own expressed views.
  7. deflected
    International TradeRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids addressing the either-or choice by restating the general position on defending interests.The reality is that we have seen the terms of the negotiations for the trans-Pacific partnership and they allow us to defend and promote all of our interests, including supply management.
  8. deflected
    International TradeRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Rejects multiple premises of the question and criticizes the opposition instead of answering about the perimeter deal.I do not accept much of the premise of that question including, for instance, the buy America provisions.
  9. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids addressing F-35 flaws or withdrawal by shifting to jobs and allies.Canada is not the only country among our closest allies warning critics of the damage their reckless plans would cause to the military and aerospace workers.
  10. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner as misinformed instead of addressing the plan B or backing out countries.The member opposite is stuck in a time warp of useless rhetoric, misinformation and misrepresentation about the benefits to Canada of the F-35 program.
  11. deflected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores tender request and ally reconsideration by listing production facts.F-35s are coming off the production line.
  12. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims a tender existed and pivots to sovereignty without addressing the boondoggle claim.there was a tendering process.
  13. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker's voting record and dismisses the report as flawed without engaging the smuggling concern.that is rich coming from a member who voted against increasing penalties for those who imported firearms into this country illegally.
  14. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats the plan to scrap the registry and attacks opposition motives instead of discussing data retention.If given the chance, the opposition would once again use the data in order to target law-abiding citizens
  15. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer labels the official's analysis misleading without addressing the border or police concerns raised.the analysis presented by this official is misleading.
  16. partly answered
    Champlain BridgeMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer references past investment but does not provide details on the requested action plan.We have invested $380 million in this infrastructure.
  17. deflected
    Champlain BridgeMr. Jamie Nicholls (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the contingency plan question by accusing the asker of scaring the public instead.While this member wants to scare the public, we are doing the work and making sure things get done.
  18. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms program status but does not address the plan B question.
  19. misdirected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the question's premise as misinformation rather than addressing plan B.we are concerned as well about the rhetoric we hear that is misinformation, miscommunication and misinterpretation of what Mr. Panetta said.
  20. partly answered
    Water ManagementMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details first nations water work but does not address the national strategy question.
  21. deflected
    Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime MinisterMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the law clerk issue and pivots to praising the member's mandate.The member for Peterborough was mandated by his constituents to ensure that the CBC is accountable.
  22. misdirected
    Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime MinisterMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the asker's past voting record instead of addressing the legal counsel letter.The member for Peterborough campaigned on and asked for a mandate to come to Ottawa and fight for taxpayers.
  23. misdirected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Kennedy Stewart (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP for opposing the project abroad rather than addressing the energy strategy question.
  24. misdirected
    Natural ResourcesMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's international actions instead of addressing environmental regulations or trade.When the NDP travels abroad, its agenda is to campaign against Canadian industry, which employs hundreds of thousands of Canadians.
  25. deflected
    Service CanadaMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes automation instead of addressing hotline or employee cuts.We are automating both the call systems and the EI processing systems, so that Canadians can access the benefits that they need more efficiently, more effectively and in a more affordable manner.
  26. misdirected
    Service CanadaMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP voting record rather than committing to fix EI access.Sadly, despite the protestations to try to help the unemployed, the NDP voted against every single one of those initiatives.
  27. misdirected
    Service CanadaMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer criticizes NDP policy instead of explaining Service Canada staffing decisions.Unfortunately, all the NDP does is try to make it easier for them to get employment insurance, not to access the labour market.
  28. deflected
    Service CanadaMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats training focus without addressing call answer rates or benefit delays from cuts.The best way to help them is to give them training to prepare them for the jobs of today and tomorrow.
  29. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states emission target commitment but does not provide a plan to meet targets.We remain committed to reducing Canada's greenhouse gas emissions by 17% below 2005 levels and we are achieving that goal.
  30. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer describes delegation preparations instead of addressing alleged sabotage of UN process.In pre-Durban meetings in Mexico City, Washington and Cape Town, I have assured other national delegations that, despite some significant challenges, I believe we can move our common climate change cause forward in terms of both mitigation and adaptation.
  31. partly answered
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer expresses concern and plans to raise issue but defers action until new commissioner is named.I will be raising this issue with the new commissioner very shortly.
  32. misdirected
    Royal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP record on police tools instead of assuring immediate action on harassment.I am glad to hear that the member opposite has developed a new-found interest in the RCMP, given that the member's party has consistently voted against giving the RCMP, indeed all police officers, the tools they need to do their job.
  33. deflected
    SeniorsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references a prior extension and opposition votes rather than addressing the current request to delay conversions.It matters not what we put forward to help seniors, because the opposition tends to vote against it.
  34. deflected
    Canadian Northern Economic Development AgencyMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accepts recommendations but provides no details on spending, recipients, or accountability.We are addressing those recommendations.
  35. partly answered
    VeteransMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer affirms commitment to care and mentions talks with Quebec but does not address the impact of staff reductions.That is why we have initiated talks with the Government of Quebec to ensure that our veterans continue to be provided with exceptional services.
  36. deflected
    Supplementary EstimatesMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses general fiscal goals and avoiding deficits in other countries instead of specifying cuts or guarantees.We think it is tremendously important that we return to balanced budgets so that we do not get into the same situation that Greece, Italy and Spain find themselves in.