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Thursday, November 3, 2011 · sitting No. 43

House limits debate on fair representation bill to one day

The House devoted most of the sitting to a government motion to allot one further sitting day to second-reading debate on Bill C-20, the Fair Representation Act. Peter Van Loan moved the time-allocation motion and said opposition reasoned amendments showed the debate was already over. Joe Comartin said the motion continued a pattern of limiting debate, while David Christopherson and Massimo Pacetti questioned the reduction to a single day.

In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the appointment of Michael Ferguson as Auditor General. Bob Rae said the government had changed the bilingualism requirement after the fact, and Jason Kenney replied that the best-qualified candidate had been chosen and that unilingual auditors general had been appointed in the past.

Decided that day

  • C-20 passed second reading and sent to committee
  • Auditor General appointed under the Act
  • C-343 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

No CPAC Question Period upload is on file for this day. CPAC’s channel goes back to December 2019.

Who held the floor · 2011-11-03

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 40 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Bills Move While Answers WanderThe House devoted most of its time to the Fair Representation Act and passed three recorded votes that advanced legislation and filled the Auditor General post. Question Period produced mostly deflected or misdirected replies, yet points of order stayed low and substantive debate remained high.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

G8 Summit

Alexandre Boulerice asked how 242 projects became 32 with no paper trail, and John Baird said the Auditor General had confirmed all funds went to public infrastructure.

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National Defence

Christine Moore said Industry Canada had delayed the project and costs were rising without guaranteed spinoffs, and Julian Fantino said Canadian firms had already secured $370 million in contracts.

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Public Safety

Joe Comartin said provinces representing 75 per cent of the population opposed bearing the costs of the government’s crime bills, and Jason Kenney said the NDP was ignoring victims.

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Veterans

Annick Papillon pressed for action on Pascal Lacoste’s case, and Steven Blaney said the department would rely on the latest scientific evidence.

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Taxation

Ralph Goodale urged the government to cancel a planned $1.2-billion increase, and Shelly Glover said the Liberals had done nothing for volunteer firefighters when in office.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on provincial costs and instead attacks the asker personally.It is that member who yesterday launched a full frontal attack on the integrity and credibility of a member of the Supreme Court of Canada
  2. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on working with Quebec and instead attacks the asker over the Supreme Court comment.However, the hon. member cannot ignore his attack on the credibility of a member of the Supreme Court of Canada.
  3. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on provincial opposition and instead repeatedly demands an apology over the Supreme Court remark.However, for the third time, I will give the hon. member the opportunity to retract his irresponsible remarks
  4. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on provincial concerns and instead challenges the asker to apologize over the Supreme Court judge.I want to repeat the challenge of the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism to the member across the way who slighted the reputation of a Supreme Court of Canada judge
  5. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question on helping provinces with costs and instead criticizes the NDP while citing supportive provinces.Even spending a dollar on fighting crime would be too much for the members of the NDP.
  6. deflected
    Auditor GeneralBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the selection process but deflects from the bilingualism rule change by emphasizing the candidate's skills.It was determined that the person selected had the best skills of all the candidates.
  7. misdirected
    Auditor GeneralBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on changing the rules and instead accuses the asker of attacking the appointee.it is unfortunate to see the leader of the third party attacking an officer of Parliament
  8. deflected
    Auditor GeneralBob Rae (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing the rule change and instead questions the credibility of the opposition leader.if there is a problem here, it is the credibility of the leader of the Liberal Party.
  9. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats talking points about the plan and attacks NDP voting record instead of addressing timeline for action.The NDP voted against our plan.
  10. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids admitting lack of plan by questioning PBO credibility and restating low-tax agenda.It was very clear that the PBO said that he makes mistakes.
  11. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking NDP tax proposal rather than addressing job creation shortfall.what we have to resist is that $10 billion tax hike the NDP has proposed that would kill jobs
  12. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer questions NDP voting record instead of outlining new measures for household debt.
  13. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates existing plan and tax freeze without addressing corporate tax cuts or debt relief.we must continue with our plan to freeze taxes for families and maintain jobs.
  14. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims questions were answered in committee but provides no criteria for project selection.yesterday two ministers and three deputy ministers spent two hours before committee and answered all the questions
  15. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer references committee hearings and AG report without addressing minister's involvement.This has been thoroughly looked at.
  16. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites AG recommendations but does not disclose involvement or explain nondisclosure.the Auditor General spent considerable time looking at the issue.
  17. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific accusation of misleading and instead points to prior committee activity.Yesterday two ministers and three deputy ministers responded to every question that the committee had, and all the questions have been answered.
  18. deflected
    G8 SummitScott Brison (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids apology or admission by redirecting to earlier statements and committee record.I certainly would commend Hansard from that committee to the member opposite.
  19. deflected
    G8 SummitMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects the premise outright without addressing the 166% increase or reprimand request.it will not come as any surprise to my colleague opposite that I reject much of the premise of the question he just asked.
  20. misdirected
    Canadian Broadcasting CorporationMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to praising the member and CBC accountability instead of addressing separation of powers.I am pleased to join with my Conservative colleagues, but disappointingly not opposition colleagues, in commending the member for Peterborough for demanding accountability at the CBC.
  21. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer gives positive program spin without acknowledging the delay or safety concerns raised.our participation in the joint strike fighter program continues to be a success.
  22. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights benefits and progress while ignoring the call for an open bidding process.The F-35 program is progressing well and on track.
  23. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to general praise of the aircraft and ignores the personal attack on the minister.They say that this is the best aircraft at this time and well into the future for Canadian needs, Canadian workers and Canadian industry.
  24. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer emphasizes overall defence strategy without addressing the tender or delay accusations.Canada's first defence strategy represents a tangible commitment to provide our military men and women the resources they need, including the F-35
  25. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes investments and an award while avoiding crowding, solitary confinement, and violence.That is why we have made historic investments, improving mental health in the correctional system.
  26. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses rehabilitation access by inviting a briefing and claiming improvements in treatment and training.Both access to treatment services for inmates and access to training for staff have been vastly improved under this government.
  27. deflected
    VeteransMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer urges veterans to seek help and references scientific data without committing to action on depleted uranium or the hunger strike.I urge veterans to avoid putting their health in danger and to accept help from our professionals so that we can continue to provide the services and programs our veterans deserve.
  28. deflected
    VeteransMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer endorses scientific evidence and praises another MP while sidestepping the benefit of the doubt for depleted uranium cases.I can assure the member that we are implementing the newest and most recent scientific evidence.
  29. misdirected
    TaxationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal record on tax credits instead of addressing the proposed EI and tax credit measures.When we talk about our volunteer firefighters tax credit, I remember firefighters begging the Liberal Party, when it was in government, to do something, and it did absolutely nothing
  30. misdirected
    TaxationMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mrs. Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.The answer counters with job statistics and a carbon tax attack rather than responding to the EI payroll tax increase.Statistics Canada's facts are clear: 650,000 net new jobs have been created since July 2009, 90% of those have been full-time jobs, and 80% of them are in the private sector.
  31. answered
    Auditor GeneralMs. Élaine Michaud (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly states the candidate will learn French and was chosen through a rigorous process.Mr. Ferguson told a House committee and the Senate that it is important to learn French, that he wants to learn French and that he is going to learn French.
  32. deflected
    Auditor GeneralMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise and cites endorsements without confirming bilingual interview questions or criteria compliance.I absolutely reject the premise of that question.
  33. deflected
    VeteransMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific question on funding cuts and instead lists unrelated past achievements while mocking the asker.the echo that is reverberating from one end of the country to the other indicates that our government has made a variety of improvements over the past six years
  34. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that testing is underway and prior tests found no cases, while criticizing the question.Federal officials are conducting tests in our certified ISA lab to verify these claims.
  35. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Jonathan Tremblay (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the EI extension question and instead attacks the NDP on taxes and promotes general priorities.Why do NDP members not want to modernize our system?
  36. deflected
    Government PoliciesMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer completely ignores the question on debate limits and pivots to the government's jobs mandate.in the last election Canadians gave us a strong mandate to deliver on jobs for Canadians--
  37. partly answered
    Business of the HouseMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the use of time allocation and progress on bills but does not specify the agenda or exact number of future uses.nobody would be more delighted than I if we could actually not have to use time allocation, but so far we have not seen an indication from the opposition parties that they are prepared to deal with bills on an expeditious basis.