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Thursday, October 27, 2011 · sitting No. 38

Commons sets time limit on long-gun registry debate

Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved a motion to allocate no more than three further sitting days to second reading of Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act. The motion would require all questions necessary for disposal of the stage to be put 15 minutes before the expiry of government orders on the third allotted day. Debate on the motion consumed the largest share of the sitting.

New Democratic Party House leader Joe Comartin said the government had already used time allocation five times in 38 sitting days and had allowed only 34 minutes of debate on the bill itself. Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan replied that the issues had been debated for years across multiple parliaments and that the government was delivering on its election commitments. Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux and NDP MP Jack Harris also spoke against the motion.

In Question Period, NDP interim leader Nycole Turmel and Public Safety Minister Vic Toews clashed over the planned destruction of long-gun registry data, with Toews stating that the registry was costly and useless. Liberal interim leader Bob Rae pressed National Defence Minister Peter MacKay on whether the Prime Minister would state at the Commonwealth meeting that human rights include gay rights.

Decided that day

  • Motion on Bill C-19 passed

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Who held the floor · 2011-10-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 46%, opposition 54% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 22:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
70Registry debate yields one quiet voteMost of the sitting was spent arguing the long-gun registry and Egypt's Coptic Christians, yet the House still passed one motion on Bill C-19 and introduced three new bills. Question Period produced more deflections than clear answers, and the Speaker had to call order a dozen times.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Auditor General

Liberal interim leader Bob Rae asked whether the government believed no bilingual candidate for Auditor General had been both meritorious and bilingual; Treasury Board President Tony Clement replied that the most qualified candidate had been chosen after an exhaustive process and that Mr. Ferguson had begun French lessons.

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Canadian Wheat Board

NDP interim leader Nycole Turmel cited the Australian wheat board experience and asked why the government was repeating a failed experiment; Justice Minister Peter MacKay said western wheat farmers wanted freedom to market their own product.

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Infrastructure Funding

NDP MP Linda Duncan questioned the withdrawal of federal support for the Royal Alberta Museum; Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose said the government remained committed to its $30-million pledge and had not withdrawn any funds.

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Coptic Christians in Egypt

Conservative parliamentary secretary Deepak Obhrai outlined Canada’s statements at the United Nations on violence against Coptic Christians in Egypt; Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis pressed for further action at the Human Rights Council.

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National Defence

NDP MP Randall Garrison asked whether bases including CFB Esquimalt would close under spending cuts; Defence Minister Peter MacKay said the internal directive made no reference to base closures and that only opposition members were raising the possibility.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the NDP instead of addressing the Australian precedent or rationale for the policy.It is unfortunate that the NDP is trying to use undemocratic measures, dirty tricks and intimidation.
  2. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates government talking points on the registry without addressing Quebec, police, or provincial opposition.The long gun registry was costly and useless and did not protect Canadians.
  3. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMrs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disputes the premise on crime rates and police use but does not address data access for provinces or police.We have seen there is no connection with the lowering of crime rates; the lowering of these statistics has no correlation with gun registration.
  4. misdirected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking the opposition on Bill C-10 and farmers instead of addressing police concerns on data loss.It is time the member stopped picking on farmers and sport shooters and hunters and started standing up for victims.
  5. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disputes the usage figure and cites Manitoba NDP but avoids the request to transfer data to provinces or the tracing centre.the member knows that the figure he just mentioned is misleading.
  6. partly answered
    Human RightsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms human rights focus but does not confirm use of the specific phrase 'gay rights'.the issue of human rights is always there.
  7. answered
    Human RightsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the Prime Minister's position on Sri Lanka's human rights record and Commonwealth standards.He has made statements definitively with respect to Sri Lanka and our desire to see that country reconcile the very appalling human rights record
  8. answered
    Auditor GeneralBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the selection process and addresses the bilingual requirement directly.After an exhaustive process, the most meritorious candidate was chosen.
  9. deflected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general military needs without confirming the program or addressing transparency.This government intends to meet this requirement while ensuring the best value for taxpayer money.
  10. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to general space importance and lists unrelated assets instead of addressing boondoggle prevention.The Canadian Forces space-related activities are an essential component of a robust defence for Canada and North America, wherein are the F-35s and the other assets that we are providing for our men and women in uniform to do their work
  11. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the directive does not mention closures and notes only opposition raises the issue, but does not assure no cuts to Esquimalt support.With respect to his question, he would know that this memorandum, this directive, he is referring to makes no reference whatsoever to base closures.
  12. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer expresses sympathy and deems comment inappropriate without addressing funding for legal bills.I think the hon. member would agree it would be inappropriate to comment on a process that is now in place with regard to the recommendation that the Fynes family be funded for their representation on the public interest hearing.
  13. partly answered
    Human RightsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the Prime Minister relayed concerns but does not address leadership on moving the meeting or conditioning it on UN investigation.Canada will continue to speak loudly and clearly on behalf of human rights around the world, and especially Sri Lanka.
  14. answered
    Human RightsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the Prime Minister's position on rethinking attendance absent credible movement on human rights.If there is no credible movement toward addressing that issue, he will then rethink his attendance at the next Commonwealth Conference in Sri Lanka.
  15. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's voting record and plan rather than addressing government inaction on jobs.that is quite an action plan, standing and voting against anything that the government puts forward that actually will help create jobs.
  16. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP tax plan and platform instead of addressing government action on job creation.I forgot the other component of the NDP plan, and that is to tax Canadians by another $10 billion.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.The answer rejects all premises without addressing the staffing cuts or environmental research impacts.every assumption in my hon. colleague's question is absolutely and totally wrong.
  18. deflected
    TaxationJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to Liberal voting record instead of explaining access to tax credits for lower-income families.I am not sure why that hon. member would ask for more tax credits for Canadians, because every time we put that forward the Liberals vote against it
  19. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Mr. Greg Kerr (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's committee behaviour rather than addressing the cancellation of public hearings.the bizarre behaviour of this member forces me to answer with what he has been trying to do in the last number of days.
  20. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the campaign promise to destroy the registry without addressing concerns about victims or Quebec taxpayers.we made a very clear, very specific campaign commitment to destroy the registry.
  21. partly answered
    Auditor GeneralMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states that bilingual candidates were sought and the chosen candidate is learning French, addressing the rule-breaking claim only partially.the government sought bilingual candidates.
  22. misdirected
    Auditor GeneralMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes a third party instead of addressing the unilingual appointment or the stated bilingual requirement.what Mike Ferguson will face in Ottawa as opposed to Fredericton will be simply a few extra zeroes at the end of the numbers.
  23. partly answered
    Auditor GeneralMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats that the candidate was most qualified and will learn French but does not explain how the bilingual requirement was met.Mr. Ferguson will learn French and he was the most qualified candidate.
  24. deflected
    Auditor GeneralMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends linguistic duality in general without addressing the specific unilingual appointment or the message to francophones.This government in the previous Parliament led the way with a brand new initiative for linguistic duality in this country.
  25. partly answered
    Infrastructure FundingMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the $30M commitment but ignores the $92M claim and backtracking accusation.I can assure the hon. member that no funding has been withdrawn from this project by the federal government.
  26. deflected
    Infrastructure FundingMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior clarification on funding but evades the call for other MPs to demand restoration.Our commitment was for $30 million and it stands.
  27. deflected
    MuseumsMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to general G8 spending record instead of addressing museum layoffs and cuts.In the global economic crisis, which began in 2008, Canada—our government—was the only government in the G8 to make one key decision: it did not cut or maintain its investment in culture, but increased it.
  28. deflected
    MuseumsMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights new museums created but sidesteps the question on ongoing cuts to existing museums.Our government is the first government in Canadian history to create a national museum outside of the national capital at Pier 21 in Halifax.
  29. answered
    Canadian Air and Space MuseumJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the museum is private and describes outreach to preserve the collection.I have instructed Mark O'Neill, the president of the Museum of Civilization, to reach out to this museum to talk and work with it about the collection it has and see if there is something we can do to preserve the collection.
  30. partly answered
    Canadian Air and Space MuseumJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the collection but deflects on protecting the historic buildings themselves.I certainly recognize the importance of the collection, which is why I have taken the action I have described in the first question.
  31. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker as hypocritical rather than addressing the parallel process or Auditor General concerns.By standing up and talking about broken promises today, he now appoints himself the House's high priest of hypocrisy.
  32. misdirected
    G8 SummitMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to long gun registry instead of addressing project approval and accountability.Will he now be consistent with the position that he has always taken and announce that he will vote for scrapping the long gun registry?
  33. answered
    Infrastructure FundingMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Directly confirms the $30M museum commitment stands after correcting other claims.We committed $30 million to the Royal Alberta Museum. We are very proud to do that. That funding commitment stands and we have not withdrawn that funding.
  34. answered
    Broadcasting and TelecommunicationsMr. Pierre Dionne Labelle (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Explains CRTC process and that CBC access is preserved for those paying for converters.The CRTC worked with our government and with the CBC to ensure that taxpayers who pay out of their own pockets could continue receiving CBC programming.
  35. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Praises season and states priorities but never addresses creating a task force.The long-term economic prosperity of the snow crab industry is my priority and the priority of my department.
  36. deflected
    Democratic ReformMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Rejects premise by citing unrelated files then restates bill's principle without engaging Quebec resolution.We have resolved some very important issues with the Quebec nation, for example, the Old Harry deposit and the harmonization of the GST and the QST.
  37. deflected
    Business of the HouseMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Discusses past debates and election mandate but supplies no formula for deciding time allocation.
  38. answered
    Business of the HouseMr. Joe Comartin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Explicitly confirms the bill will receive more than one day of debate on specified dates.I said in French that we will be debating the seat redistribution bill on Wednesday and we have also planned to debate it on Thursday of next week.