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Monday, November 29, 2010 · sitting No. 106
House debates bill to curb human smuggling as opposition warns of refugee impact
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-49, the Preventing Human Smugglers From Abusing Canada's Immigration System Act. NDP MP Peter Julian said the bill targets refugees rather than smugglers and imposes prison terms on children, while Conservative MP Paul Calandra said it delivers guaranteed minimum sentences to smugglers and safeguards Canadian sovereignty.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the F-35 purchase. Liberal MP Ralph Goodale cited Auditor General warnings of potential cost overruns exceeding 100 per cent and asked where extra infrastructure and maintenance costs would end; Treasury Board President Tony Clement replied that the project protects sovereignty and creates Canadian jobs.
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Who held the floor · 2010-11-29
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Pensions
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said the poverty rate among seniors has risen 25 per cent and accused the government of choosing jets over GIS benefits for 1.5 million low-income seniors; Human Resources Minister Diane Finley said only a small number of seniors are affected and that all will be contacted for review under the previous rules.
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Bloc Québécois MP Gilles Duceppe said the government is refusing to match even the less stringent U.S. greenhouse-gas rules in order to protect the oil sands; Environment Minister John Baird said Canada is harmonizing transportation regulations with the United States and has already regulated coal-fired electricity.
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NDP MP Thomas Mulcair asked how many child soldiers Canada transferred to the Afghan NDS despite known torture risks; Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said the 2007 transfer agreement provides full access to detention facilities for monitoring.
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Speaker ruled on the premature release of the finance committee's prebudget report and referred the matter to the procedure committee on a motion by NDP MP Thomas Mulcair.
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- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores cost limits and instead attacks Liberals on the purchase.
Why do the Liberals and their coalition allies continue to downgrade the importance of this purchase for our own sovereignty and for the jobs it will bring to Canada?
- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses Liberals of flip-flopping and risking jobs instead of addressing Auditor General warnings.
They are risking our women and men in uniform and they are risking Canadian jobs.
- misdirectedPensionsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to F-35 jobs in Montreal and ignores pension poverty and Nortel issues.
What I want to know is why is it always the member for Wascana or the member for Beauséjour who stand up on the F-35 issue.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the deal via industry quotes but attacks the member for not supporting Montreal jobs.
Why is the hon. member not speaking out for Canadian workers particularly in Montreal?
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites industry president to dismiss competition but ends by attacking opposition on workers and uniforms.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses harmonization with US but does not admit to refusing US measures.
We are harmonizing regulations on transportation and we will find equivalents in other cases.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates climate priorities and US cooperation without addressing oil sands motivation.
our priorities are to fight climate change and to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in Canada and around the world.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer focuses on protecting jobs and environment without addressing lobbying to exempt oil sands.
our interest is always to protect Canadian interests and protect Canadian jobs.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states an emissions target and US cooperation but ignores the Cancun road map and lobbyist accusation.
We are working with the United States and the Obama administration to harmonize the transportation sector.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the new agreement and monitoring but supplies none of the requested numbers on child transfers or torture.
Under this improved agreement, Taliban prisoners transferred by Canada are detained in a limited number of Afghan facilities in order to make it easier for us to conduct follow-up and monitoring.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats claims of integrity and access but does not address why children were transferred to the NDS or how long the minister knew.
As a result of the supplementary transfer arrangements put in place by our government, we have full and unrestricted access to the detention facilities where Taliban prisoners transferred by the Canadian Forces are held.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again cites the supplementary arrangement and repeats the same stock response without explaining the policy on children.
This, of course, is the same question and we respond in the same manner.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with a question about strategic resources instead of addressing the lobbying or sabotage claim.
is the member opposite and her party taking the position that the oil sands are not a strategic resource for Canada for decades to come?
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains harmonization and timelines but does not address the Tea Party accusation or hostage claim.
In the guidelines that will be published and become effective in January, there will be a phasing in over three years.
- partly answeredPensionsGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms a review and contact with affected seniors but does not commit to permanent repeal or confirm the 1.5 million figure.
I also instructed officials to ensure they contacted all Canadians who would be directly affected by this, which, I would point out, is not the number that the hon. member has been stating.
- misdirectedPensionsGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the member of fear-mongering rather than clarifying whether benefits were lost retroactively in 2010.
it is clear that the hon. member either does not understand the policy or is deliberately trying to scare Canadians.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the transfer arrangement without confirming or denying child transfers.
There is an arrangement, and the government improved this arrangement, which obviously allows for the transfer of these Afghan prisoners.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general inquiries on abuse allegations instead of answering the yes/no question.
when cases of abuse are alleged, the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan conduct the appropriate inquiries, depending on the circumstances.
- deflectedTax HarmonizationMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the need for harmonization without addressing which tax is one too many.
There needs to be true harmonization of the two sales taxes.
- partly answeredTax HarmonizationMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses fundamentals like collection and base harmonization but does not assure continued Quebec collection.
These include what the base is, the harmonization of the base, what the exceptions may or may not be, of course collection, and the harmonization of legislation.
- misdirectedTaseko Mines LimitedMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the stock fluctuation and instead challenges the member to provide evidence.
If the member opposite has any information with respect to the charge she makes, I suggest we call upon her and her party once again to place that information before the House of Commons.
- misdirectedTaseko Mines LimitedMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the leak question by noting the member's conclusions and inviting evidence.
If she has additional information that would corroborate what she said, I would encourage her to place it in front of the House for us all to see.
- misdirectedTaseko Mines LimitedMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the questions by labeling prior statements false and demanding evidence instead of providing dates or details.
Members of the opposition are free to speculate and make innuendo, but if they have any evidence to suggest anything untoward, they should place it before the House for everyone to see.
- deflectedTaseko Mines LimitedMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies the environmental decision and ignores the RCMP and insider trading questions.
That is why the government did the right thing and did not approve the project.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner and her province rather than addressing the collusion claim.
why is the member working against her own province?
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses harmonization plans but does not explain why rules remain in limbo.
We support strong harmonization on tough regulations.
- deflectedSecurities IndustryMr. Robert Carrier (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats that the plan is voluntary without addressing the accusation of buying consent.
it is a purely voluntary initiative for all of the provinces.
- answeredSecurities IndustryMr. Robert Carrier (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the decentralized nature of the proposed regulator to counter concerns about Quebec's powers.
It is a highly decentralized recommendation.
- partly answeredAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses child transfers and juvenile treatment but omits details on special protection measures.
Consequently, if there is doubt with respect to age, the prisoner is treated as a juvenile and given separate quarters.
- partly answeredAfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reiterates special provisions exist but does not specify what they are.
The Canadian Forces have special provisions in those circumstances.
- deflectedHealthMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts responsibility to provinces without outlining federal enforcement steps.
the delivery of health care is within the mandate of the provinces and territories.
- deflectedHealthMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again defers to provinces and offers no plan to stop two-tier practices.
as I said before, the delivery of health care is a matter of provincial and territorial jurisdiction.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general responsibilities without explaining the absence of regulations.
Each one is responsible for respecting Canada's official languages efficiently and responsibly, in all communities and provinces.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The response praises Vancouver Olympics instead of addressing the Pan American Games agreement.
those of us on this side of the House believe that the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Games were a Canadian success story on all fronts, including official languages.
- partly answeredCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the reasons for policy changes but does not outline future plans to address resulting issues.
We are now scrambling the questions so people have to learn the material.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Shifts focus to reduced complaints rather than addressing the lack of regulations or failing grades.
What the colleague also fails to report is that in his most recent report to the House, the Commissioner of Official Languages said that complaints with regard to the government's handling of official languages was down by over 30%.
- partly answeredPensionsMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Responds to the substance of the bill but avoids the accusation about directing senators.
based on the expert witness testimony, Bill S-216 will not help Nortel LTD recipients.
- answeredForeign AffairsMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Clearly states that no embassies will be closed without announcement and denies the premise.
If an embassy is to be closed, we will make an announcement; if one is to be opened, we will also make an announcement.
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The response seeks clarification on response time rather than addressing the privilege motion.
Will the government have a chance to adequately respond to the remarks made by the hon. member for Outremont following questions and comments?
- misdirectedPrivilegeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). substantive question.Shifts discussion to professional obligations of lawyers instead of the privilege issue.
think the member should look back, and I do have a question for him in particular.
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's partisanship and calls for referral to committee rather than addressing the specific questions on rules and transmission timing.
I find it unfortunate that the debate has taken this kind of turn.
- deflectedPrivilegeMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the IT question on computer alterations by again pushing for committee review without providing details.
Let us let the procedure and House affairs committee deal with this.