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Tuesday, November 23, 2010 · sitting No. 102

House advances spam-fighting bill at third reading

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on third reading of Bill C-28, the Fighting Internet and Wireless Spam Act. Liberal MP Marc Garneau told members the bill addresses a problem that costs the global economy about $130 billion and noted Canada is the last G8 country to act. Conservative and New Democratic members pressed on enforcement powers for the CRTC, the Competition Bureau and the Privacy Commissioner.

Question period opened with exchanges on Nortel pensions. Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said the government spent freely on prisons and fighter jets while disabled Nortel pensioners face benefit cuts at Christmas. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the outcome followed a court-approved settlement under bankruptcy law in force at the time.

Further questions turned to allegations of political interference in the West Block renovation contract. Liberal MP Denis Coderre cited sworn testimony that a 3 per cent kickback was required. Minister Rona Ambrose said public servants managed the process and a fairness monitor found no political interference.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-28 advanced one stage in the House

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Who held the floor · 2010-11-23

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 31%, opposition 69% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:00Last speech 22:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 40 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
53Pensions debate, spam bill inches aheadMost speaking time went to substantive topics, chiefly pensions and anti-spam rules, and one bill advanced a stage. A fighter-jet motion failed and several points of order interrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Retirement Income Bill of Rights

Liberal MP Judy Sgro introduced Bill C-574 at second reading and described it as a statement of principles to strengthen retirement income security. Conservative MP Mike Wallace noted that 90 per cent of pensions fall under provincial jurisdiction.

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National Defence

Bloc Québécois MP Claude Bachand questioned government claims of $12 billion in industrial benefits from the F-35 purchase, citing Pentagon figures closer to $3.9 billion. Defence Minister Peter MacKay said recent industry projections now exceed $12 billion for Canadian firms.

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Foreign Affairs

NDP leader Jack Layton asked the Prime Minister to confirm strenuous diplomatic efforts to prevent escalation after North Korean artillery struck a South Korean island. Prime Minister Stephen Harper condemned the attack without reservation and confirmed new sanctions on Pyongyang.

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Quebec City Arena

Bloc Québécois MP Michel Guimond pressed for a federal commitment to the Quebec City arena before a December 31 deadline. Minister Josée Verner said any federal contribution would be fair, affordable and primarily matched by private-sector funds.

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Forillon Park

Bloc Québécois MP Raynald Blais called for an official apology and extended park passes for families expropriated 40 years ago. Minister John Baird said he remained willing to work with the member on the issue.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    PensionsMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer points to a court settlement rather than addressing the spending priorities or compassion.what is happening is due to a court settlement that occurred under legislation in place at the time of the Nortel bankruptcy.
  2. deflected
    PensionsMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Reiterates the court decision without addressing compassion or priorities.the outcome was decided in a court-approved settlement agreement.
  3. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The response directly counters the allegations of interference and explains the coat incident.Officials have testified there is absolutely no political interference in the contracts.
  4. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to questioning the opposition member's meetings instead of addressing the allegations.What Mr. Sauvé did say today at committee was that the only MP he had met with in the past number of years was the member for Bourassa . I wonder when those meetings took place.
  5. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Responds with fairness monitor report but avoids addressing the minister's position.a fairness monitor oversaw the entire process for these acquisitions and she tabled those reports, which are available online.
  6. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses seeking agreement with emitters rather than committing to the specific target.our government has been trying to get a mandatory agreement with all the world's major emitters to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
  7. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The response criticizes the Bloc for not supporting the agreement instead of directly addressing priorities.I am surprised that the Bloc leader and the Bloc do not support an agreement that will include countries like China, which is now the world's largest emitter.
  8. answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the role of the Coast Guard and the partnership with ArcticNet.the Canadian Coast Guard provided cost recovered service to ArcticNet, which is a network of scientific centres of expertise.
  9. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the Montreal exchange and domestic targets to pivot to global talks.the important thing is global action against climate change.
  10. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer condemns the attack and notes sanctions but omits any mention of diplomatic efforts.Canada remains firm in its support of South Korea.
  11. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the 2014 timeline for transferring security but does not address an exit strategy.It is clear that our allies are trying to transfer responsibility for security to Afghan authorities by the end of 2014.
  12. answered
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly cites quarterly reports, training metrics, and the end of the combat mission next year.As for an exit strategy, of course, Canada's combat mission will end next year.
  13. misdirected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner and reframes the issue as victim-blaming instead of addressing the extortion claim.Maybe the Liberal Party could stop always blaming the victims of crime.
  14. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends processes and past reforms while avoiding any comment on firing the minister.Senior officials from the Department of Public Works appeared before committee.
  15. misdirected
    G8 and G20 SummitsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters by attacking a Liberal candidate's expenses rather than explaining the OPP records.what Tony Genco is hiding from Canadians and why his friends at Downsview Park are refusing to release information on his expenses.
  16. misdirected
    G8 and G20 SummitsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts blame to Toronto Liberals and repeats attacks on Tony Genco instead of addressing the delay.We still do not know who this Tony Genco is hiding from Canadians and why his friends at Downsview Park are refusing to release information on his expenses.
  17. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes industry support and $12B figure without addressing Pentagon discrepancy or Quebec share.This represents more than $12 billion in opportunities on the partners fleet only, excluding those related to sustainment and foreign military sales.
  18. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks opposition timing and support instead of addressing uncertainty or minimum spinoffs requirement.As usual, the members opposite are behind the times when it comes to this particular matter.
  19. answered
    Quebec City ArenaMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the government's clear position on private-sector funding and fair allocation.We believe that this project should be funded primarily by the private sector.
  20. misdirected
    Quebec City ArenaMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Bloc Québécois record instead of addressing timeline or meeting request.The only major investments made by Bloc Québécois members over the past 20 years have been in their private pension plans.
  21. deflected
    National DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses old report and claims higher benefits without addressing tendering process or inflated figures.As usual, the Liberal Party is behind the times when it comes to military matters.
  22. deflected
    National DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mocks the asker personally and cites industry support instead of addressing tendering or Pentagon estimates.That is almost as long as it has taken the member's moustache to fill in.
  23. partly answered
    PensionsMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes federal role and ongoing talks but does not address CPP reform or spending comparison.We have had very constructive, progressive discussions with our provincial and territorial partners.
  24. deflected
    Small BusinessMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Rob Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists general small-business measures without addressing corporate tax cuts or credit access for SMEs.Small businesses have asked us to cut taxes and cut red tape and that is exactly what the government has done.
  25. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the ArcticNet contract and its scientific purpose regarding environmental impacts.In this case, ArcticNet and industry were studying environmental impacts associated with industrial activities.
  26. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the leasing by detailing the ship's research role and benefits of the science conducted.In this case what happened was an examination of the environment to better understand impacts associated with industrial activities.
  27. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly refutes the premise about the lobbyist's role and Conservative ties with specific facts.Mr. Varin was not a member of the Conservative Party, is not a Conservative Party advisor and is not a Conservative activist.
  28. answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the contract awards by citing the fairness monitor's oversight and conclusions.The fairness monitor said that the process unfolded in an objective way, free from personal favouritism and political interference
  29. partly answered
    InfrastructureJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses fairness and job creation but does not directly confirm or reject a deadline extension.We are going to be working with them to be fair and reasonable.
  30. misdirected
    InfrastructureJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to the questioner's prior statements rather than addressing the deadline extension request.I remember last week when he said that there were not any jobs being created.
  31. answered
    Government PrioritiesMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the decision not to fund Expo 2017 due to cost and risk to taxpayers.yesterday I spoke to the mayor of Edmonton, Mr. Mandel, and Sheila Weatherill of the bid committee to let them know that our government would not go forward with Edmonton Expo 2017 because this project was too large, too expensive and it was too large of a financial risk for Canadian taxpayers.
  32. answered
    Government PrioritiesMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the funding decision by detailing the examined costs and financial risks involved.They were asking for over $700 million from the federal government. It would have cost well over $1 billion.
  33. deflected
    Ferry ServicesLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses meetings and future decisions without confirming any contract length or service level.we will be making a decision in due course.
  34. deflected
    Forillon ParkMr. Raynald Blais (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response offers general willingness to work together but avoids any commitment to the specific requests for apology or extended access.I am always willing to work with my colleagues in the House of Commons on issues that matter to their constituents.
  35. partly answered
    Mining IndustryMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides broader investment context and notes discussions with the province but does not address the refusal to meet or job protection demands.This unfortunate situation in her constituency was part of a more general announcement made by Vale of a $10 billion multi-year investment in Canada
  36. deflected
    Ferry ServicesLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes declining usage and ongoing analysis but gives no commitment to a long-term contract at current service levels.I know the member has asked this question every year for about 10 or 12 years now.
  37. misdirected
    Rights & DemocracyMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for asking questions instead of addressing the release of the audit report.I see that instead of taking action, the opposition has decided to ask questions.
  38. deflected
    Points of OrderMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.The response objects to tabling documents without reviewing them and redirects to proper release procedures.It should be released in the appropriate way and not through the back door here.
  39. answered
    Points of OrderMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly consents to tabling the documents and addresses the remark in a conciliatory manner.I would certainly be in favour of such a motion.
  40. misdirected
    Points of OrderMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. Phil McColeman (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the asker personally rather than addressing the factual accuracy of the question posed.I will take no lessons from the member for Ajax—Pickering when it comes to presenting issues to Parliament that are not based on any factual evidence.
  41. answered
    PrivilegeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly engages the privilege claim by arguing there is no prima facie case and detailing responsive actions taken.To my hon. colleague from Outremont I would argue very vociferously that there is clearly no prima facie case for privilege in this case.
  42. misdirected
    PrivilegeMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.The response diverts into criticizing another MP's intervention length instead of addressing the privilege point about technology and leaks.I find it unfortunate, quite frankly, that the member for Mississauga South , who professes to be an authority on procedure and practice, would so blatantly flout the quite clear instructions contained in the manual which we use to conduct ourselves in this place.