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Thursday, October 28, 2010 · sitting No. 89
Commons advances debate on bill targeting human smugglers
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on debate of Bill C-49, the Preventing Human Smugglers from Abusing Canada's Immigration System Act. Members examined provisions for mandatory detention of up to one year and longer waits for permanent residence after refugee claims are accepted. New Democratic MP Olivia Chow warned that genuine refugees, including children, could face eight years of family separation. Conservative MP Ed Fast said the measures target smugglers while protecting the integrity of the system for those who follow the rules.
Question period opened with clashes over the F-35 fighter-jet purchase. Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said the sole-source process risks repeating the Chinook helicopter overruns and urged competitive bids. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the previous Liberal government had established the consortium approach to secure Canadian work and that the current government would not scrap the deal.
Further exchanges focused on the proposed Potash Corporation takeover. New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton pressed the government to block the sale of the strategic resource. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the transaction would be assessed on its merits under the Investment Canada Act.
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Veterans Affairs
Liberal MP Kirsty Duncan said a grieving mother made 22 calls about her son's pension before being told to stop calling. Minister of National Defence Peter MacKay said he had instructed officials to contact her directly.
Read the exchangeOmar Khadr
Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette asked the government to recognize Omar Khadr as a child soldier. Minister of Foreign Affairs Lawrence Cannon said the government would comply with U.S. authorities while the trial continued.
Read the exchangeG8 and G20 Summits
Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez said holding the summits in two locations drove up security costs. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said the expenses were legitimate and that 20,000 personnel had been required.
Read the exchangeInfrastructure
Bloc Québécois MP Christiane Gagnon said federal red tape threatened one-third of Quebec projects. Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities Chuck Strahl said officials were working with the province on extensions.
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- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper attacks Liberals and restates prior process instead of addressing competitive bidding or Auditor General concerns.
Now the Liberals want to play coalition politics to scrap this deal.
- deflectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper pivots to past Liberal cuts rather than addressing the $3 billion overspend or procurement risk.
However, when it comes to managing taxpayer money through a recession, I will not make any apologies to a party that cut the military
- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper dismisses Liberal record as 'decade of darkness' and attacks the opposition instead of responding to scaling-back by other countries or procurement rules.
The party opposite and its coalition friends use every attempt, every piece of misinformation to try to oppose anything we do for our men and women in uniform.
- deflectedNational DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.MacKay accuses LeBlanc of flip-flopping rather than addressing the 1993 Reform position or sole-sourcing.
when the member was on this side of the House and was the parliamentary secretary to defence, he used to extol the virtues of the F-35 project.
- deflectedNational DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.MacKay counters with a rhetorical question about equipment instead of addressing experts or management concerns.
what does the member opposite, the defence critic for the Liberal Party, and the interim leader serving for the Liberal Party here today, have against giving the men and women in uniform the best equipment that we possibly can?
- deflectedOmar KhadrMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Cannon states compliance with US process and refuses further comment instead of addressing child-soldier status.
until this process is complete, we will refrain from making any other comments.
- misdirectedOmar KhadrMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Cannon attacks Bloc for changing position on guilt rather than addressing constitutional rights or repatriation.
As soon as he said that he was guilty of murder, the Bloc Québécois was convinced that he was exonerated.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.MacKay attacks Bloc motives and claims support for F-35 instead of addressing lack of defence policy or budget inconsistency.
I find it a little ironic that we are getting advice from the Bloc, a party that does not want the country to succeed, let alone our foreign policy to succeed.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids Quebec-specific spinoffs policy and attacks the asker instead.
The member opposite is veering a little off script.
- partly answeredPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states a decision will be announced based on merit but does not address rejecting the sale.
The Minister of Industry will be announcing a decision on this in the not too distant future.
- deflectedPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP ideology rather than committing to keeping potash Canadian.
I know that it is the NDP's position to oppose any foreign investment
- deflectedPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the call for reforms by attacking NDP views instead of addressing Investment Canada Act changes.
without the kind of ideology of the NDP that would oppose any foreign investment under any circumstances.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims a competition occurred but does not explain why bidding was not opened further.
there was a competition and in fact it was the F-35 that emerged from that competition
- answeredVeterans AffairsMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer commits to instructing officials and remedying the specific access issue raised.
- deflectedG8 and G20 SummitsMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends overall spending and security needs without addressing the two-summit decision.
we are proud of our accomplishments at the G8 and the G20 summits.
- misdirectedG8 and G20 SummitsMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accuses the asker of false information and shifts to another country's summit costs.
the members opposite continue to put false information on the record.
- deflectedInfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer stresses cooperation and need for data but sidesteps the risk of ending projects over bureaucracy.
We are working well with the Government of Quebec and respecting both provincial and federal laws as we are doing so.
- partly answeredInfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms ongoing work and past adjustments but refuses blanket extension and demands data instead.
We have already been working closely with the Government of Quebec.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the contract and fundraiser questions and instead attacks the asker over an unrelated event.
Does he plan to rehabilitate the people who murdered minister Pierre Laporte?
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again evades the contract and security questions to attack the Bloc over the FLQ and Pierre Laporte.
Do they want to resurrect the ideology and the tactics of the murderer of Pierre Laporte?
- answeredPotash IndustryMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the minister's statutory role and timeline for deciding on the bid.
I intend to discharge those responsibilities to determine, under the net benefit to Canada test, whether this particular bid passes muster or not.
- misdirectedPotash IndustryMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer counters the loaded premise by attacking the Liberal record instead of addressing Saskatchewan MPs.
the hon. member's party had 13 AWOL MPs for the Bill C-300 vote yesterday.
- deflectedInternational Co-operationMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats general aid-effectiveness talking points without addressing the specific contradiction on KAIROS.
After due diligence, it was determined that KAIROS' proposal did not meet government standards.
- deflectedInternational Co-operationMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids explaining the handwritten 'not' and pivots to broad statements on aid proposals.
We are accepting and considering proposals from various people and organizations, including members of KAIROS.
- deflectedHarmonized Sales TaxMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing federal responsibility for the HST by redirecting to provincial authority and attacking the NDP.
decisions with respect to the HST are for the provinces to make.
- deflectedHarmonized Sales TaxMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question as fabricated and pivots to provincial decisions without addressing the claimed federal role.
when all else fails, the NDP can just make it up, which is what it did with that question.
- deflectedKAIROSMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the premise of a political cut and instead promotes the government's effectiveness agenda without addressing the memo or decision.
our government instituted an effectiveness agenda, which means getting more value for the money that we are putting forward to support a number of worthy organizations
- partly answeredRights & DemocracyMr. Jean Dorion (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the audit report status but does not engage with the claim of pretext or ideological shift.
The Deloitte & Touche audit was requested by Rights & Democracy, which has received the final report.
- misdirectedJusticeAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's record on conditional sentences instead of addressing the listed failures and delays.
I am hoping you will give the member another question so she can get on her feet and explain why she gutted the bill on conditional sentences
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the premise nonsense and highlights increases without addressing the reported request to lower limits.
- answeredVeterans AffairsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly responds to the family's situation by stating actions taken and extending sympathies.
I learned about this matter this morning and as a result, I have instructed senior officials at the Department of National Defence to be in direct contact with the mother of Corporal Langridge.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the demonstration attendance question by criticizing the member's voting record on military support.
All of the efforts that we have made to support the men and women in uniform have been singularly opposed by the member and members of his party.
- misdirectedDisability BenefitsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes PM blocks bill and lacks care; answer attacks premise and member's sincerity instead of addressing bill status.
That is why we are skeptical of the bill that the member supports because it actually would not help the people that she purports to care about.
- deflectedQuebec BridgeMr. Pascal-Pierre Paillé (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands why only Conservatives refuse responsibility; answer shifts to bridge safety and court cases without addressing political refusal.
There are some outstanding court cases between CN and the federal government on some other matters.
- deflectedInternational Co-operationMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks when minister knew of PMO decision on KAIROS; answer discusses general aid goals without addressing timeline or deselection.
What we want to do as a government and a party is to make sure that our international assistance is making a difference in developing countries.
- partly answeredTaxationHelena Guergis (Independent) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Question requests specific tax credit; answer notes existing exemption and states concerns are under review without committing to new credit.
That said, we listen to the concerns of volunteer firefighters across the country and take them under review.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks timing for budget bill and opposition day; answer directly provides schedule including budget bill on Monday.
On Monday, we will continue debate on Bill C-47 , the second budget implementation bill.
- answeredPoints of OrderDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Question demands apology for alleged error on point of order; answer states it is debate not point of order.
I think that is a matter of debate. It is not a point of order.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses government House leader of causing disorder and misrepresentations; answer counters by implying Bloc associations with crime.
If the hon. member wants to talk about associations and connections, I think it is only fair that, as we say in English, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Question corrects record on event attendance and denies link to FLQ; answer pivots to correcting date without addressing substantive denial.
I am fully pleased to correct the record that it was not on October 2 that the hon. member for Sherbrooke attended an event organized by the RRQ.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer evades the claim of false association by pivoting to criticize the Bloc's own past associations instead of addressing the point raised.
I seek to remind the Bloc members that they have talked about associations, that somehow someone had dinner or had a drink at a restaurant owned by so-and-so, who once met so-and-so or sat beside so-and-so on a bus once.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the direct denial and accusation of dishonesty by redirecting to attacks on the opposition's strategy against another minister.
I suggest, in all fairness to the member for Sherbrooke , who I know to be an hon. person, that if he does not like some unfair associations, perhaps they should look at the strategy and the really regrettable and deplorable attacks made against the Minister of Natural Resources .
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked Mr. Royal Galipeau (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the call to order and instead attacks the Bloc for alleged double standards and self-righteousness.
The Bloc members are always trying to get away with a double standard in the House.