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Thursday, October 21, 2010 · sitting No. 84
Bloc motion on federal spending power dominates commons debate
The opposition motion by Bloc Québécois MP Jean Dorion calling on the government to end federal spending power in areas of provincial jurisdiction and transfer tax points took up nearly half the sitting. The motion remained before the House at the end of the day with a recorded division deferred to Tuesday.
In question period Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government over its handling of a proposed foreign takeover of Potash Corporation and Conservative MP John Baird replied that only deals offering a net benefit to Canada would be approved. Liberal MP Scott Brison also challenged the government on its spending restraint record and Conservative MP Ted Menzies pointed to job creation under the economic action plan.
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Who held the floor · 2010-10-21
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Bloc Québécois MP Pascal-Pierre Paillé called on the government to take over the Quebec bridge from CN and complete repairs. Transport Minister Chuck Strahl said CN remains responsible for maintenance and the structure is safe.
Read the exchangeChild and Spousal Support
Liberal MP Ruby Dhalla said the government had delayed more than $2.4 million in court-ordered child and spousal support payments. Conservative MP Andrew Saxton said officials had been directed to resolve the delays quickly.
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Conservative MP Joy Smith told the House that the first conviction under her private member's bill creating a new offence of trafficking a minor had occurred in Milton, Ontario. She credited local police for the arrest.
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- deflectedPotash IndustryMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates general policy without addressing the demand to reject the specific deal.
We will only approve any takeover that is in the best interest of Canada.
- misdirectedPotash IndustryMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the Liberal record instead of addressing the Potash takeover question.
during the 13 long years the Liberals were in power, they never once, not once ever, refused a foreign takeover.
- misdirectedPotash IndustryMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ends with a sarcastic attack on the Liberal Party rather than addressing the question.
I think they had a foreign takeover of the Liberal Party just last year.
- deflectedGovernment SpendingScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes job creation but avoids discussing the specific restraint measures questioned.
Since July 2009, 420,000 net new jobs have been created in this country.
- partly answeredGovernment SpendingScott Brison (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses the deficit reduction plan but ignores the personal attacks on the minister.
We have a plan in place to pay down that deficit, to balance the books and to go back to where we were
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Dismisses the question as ridiculous and shifts focus to the Bloc Québécois.
We reported to the House just yesterday that Bloc Québécois members of Parliament had been given campaign donations and then acted within five months in support of those same companies.
- deflectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Uses rhetorical questions to downplay the allegation without providing evidence.
Is the member opposite actually suggesting that making a $1,000 campaign contribution would see someone get a $300 million contract with the government?
- answeredPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Provides evidence from the fairness monitor that decisions are free from political influence.
decisions made objectively, free from personal favouritism and political influence, and encompasses the elements of openness, competitiveness, transparency and compliance.
- misdirectedPublic Works and Government ServicesMs. Diane Bourgeois (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird ignores the question about Conservative fundraising and instead attacks the Bloc Québécois.
I have only looked into one riding association of the Bloc Québécois and discovered that a $500 campaign contribution led to, five months later, the personal and political support for a government contract from the Minister of National Defence from the Bloc defence critic.
- partly answeredPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird states the legal review process but does not address the claim of an immature approach or strategic importance.
The Minister of Industry is currently reviewing the matter, as he is required to do so by law.
- deflectedPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird pivots to criticizing the Liberals rather than addressing the NDP's call for a stronger foreign investment policy.
Eleven thousand different foreign takeovers took place over 13 long years and how many did it not approve? Absolutely none.
- partly answeredPotash IndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird notes the ongoing review but dismisses concerns about taxpayer costs and resource control without engaging them.
The issue is currently being reviewed by the Minister of Industry.
- misdirectedPrime Minister's CabinetMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird ignores the gender double-standard allegation and instead praises the number of women in cabinet.
This Prime Minister is the Prime Minister who appointed the largest number of women to a federal cabinet in Canadian history.
- misdirectedPrime Minister's CabinetMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Baird shifts to attacking Liberals and listing female ministers instead of addressing the protection of the minister.
it was the Liberal Party that smeared, maligned and said the most outrageous things about one of the members in question.
- deflectedCensusMrs. Bonnie Crombie (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Clement defends the census change but does not address the broader secrecy or open-government demands.
we have taken a fair and reasonable position, seeking to balance the user's inclination to want more and more data
- deflectedCensusMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Clement repeats the balance claim and cites a Liberal without tackling the transparency or ideology accusations.
We think it is reasonable and right to have that balanced position.
- partly answeredOil and Gas ExplorationMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Acknowledges talks but sidesteps the specific request for an agreement this fall.
Discussions are proceeding, as the minister has said repeatedly, and talks are under way.
- deflectedOil and Gas ExplorationMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the question and launches an attack on the Bloc's motives and ideology.
the Bloc Québécois, which has always been dismissive of fossil fuels, is suddenly interested in this form of energy.
- answeredInternational TradeMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states the government's position on seeking a cultural exemption.
Everyone understands that we are trying to obtain the same cultural exemption that we ask for in all our trade agreements.
- answeredInternational TradeMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the role of provinces in defending access to contracts.
They have the power to defend their access to government contracts.
- partly answeredCanadian Council on LearningMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Explains the funding timeline but does not address the value or impact of cancelling the CCL.
It has always been clear that this funding would expire after five years.
- deflectedCanadian Council on LearningMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the CCL question entirely and pivots to unrelated education spending.
That is why we have taken unprecedented action through the Canada economic action plan.
- misdirectedNational DefenceGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answers a different question about past Liberal actions instead of clarifying the current minister's statement.
Why do the members opposite, why does the Liberal Party, always want to take the force out of the air force?
- misdirectedNational DefenceGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats the competition claim and attacks Liberals for timing of questions rather than addressing the fiscal or tendering concerns.
the Liberals did not ask a single question on this until the spring of 2010.
- deflectedThe EconomyMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats job creation talking points and attacks Liberals instead of addressing PBO or recovery plan.
We have told the people in the House time and time again how it has actually worked.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer corrects deficit history and criticizes past Liberals rather than addressing eco-energy reinstatement.
It is not the largest deficit in history.
- deflectedQuebec BridgeMr. Pascal-Pierre Paillé (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states CN responsibility and attacks Bloc instead of committing to reclaim the bridge.
CN is responsible for the bridges on which it runs.
- deflectedQuebec BridgeMr. Pascal-Pierre Paillé (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Answer insists it is not their bridge and stresses safety without addressing the motion or repair timeline.
it is not our bridge, but we continue to work with CN.
- deflectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids explaining national interest and cites non-comment on operations.
The Government of Canada does not comment on operational matters concerning the deployment of Canadian Forces abroad.
- deflectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats capability claim without addressing the lost base or negotiation gaffe.
The Government of Canada always chooses arrangements that are in the best interest of Canada and the best value to Canadians.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer asserts ethical standards without addressing specific contract allegations.
this government, when it comes to administrating the public's business, always acts with great, high ethical standards, openness, transparency and fairness.
- misdirectedGovernment ContractsMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer challenges the member to repeat allegations outside rather than addressing fundraising tactics.
if he has any facts he would like to put on the table, if he would like to repeat some of these allegations outside, I would welcome him to do that.
- partly answeredChild and Spousal SupportMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges delays but provides no explanation for the inaction over six months.
There have been some areas where this has not moved along quickly enough and we have given very clear direction that we want this to proceed as quickly as possible.
- misdirectedTransportationMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The response turns to blaming opposition members instead of addressing the cost overrun commitment.
because he gets no help from the members over there.
- partly answeredHuman RightsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states plans to endorse but does not address the premise of repeated backtracking.
Canada will take steps to endorse the UN declaration, which is an aspirational document, and we will do so in a manner fully consistent with Canada's Constitution and laws and in balance with the rights of all Canadians.
- partly answeredTransportationHelena Guergis (Independent) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes past rent reductions but does not address fuel taxes or commit to further action.
After we took office, we reduced the rents for airports by half.
- partly answeredChild and Spousal SupportMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Mr. Andrew Saxton (Conservative). loaded question.The answer focuses on resolving delays without addressing the accusation of betraying single parents.
The President of the Treasury Board has asked officials to look into this matter and we expect it to be resolved as quickly as possible.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The response provides details on the upcoming House schedule as requested.
Today is an opposition day for the Bloc Québécois and we will continue to debate on that for the rest of the day.