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Thursday, September 30, 2010 · sitting No. 74
Commons debates Canada-Panama free trade deal as economy stalls
The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-46, the Canada-Panama free trade agreement. Liberal MP Bryon Wilfert said Canada needs new trading relationships because exports exceed 80 per cent of goods produced and the country now runs a significant trade deficit. Conservative MP Ed Fast defended the government's record and criticized the previous Liberal government for failing to conclude an approved destination status agreement with China. NDP MP Jim Maloway noted two-way trade with Panama totalled only $132 million in 1999 and warned that Panama had been blacklisted by the OECD as an unco-operative tax haven.
In Question Period, Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said the economy shrank over the summer with declines in manufacturing, retail, wholesale, construction, forestry, housing, consumer spending and exports while the deficit rose. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that Canada's performance remains better than most countries, employment is growing and the deficit is falling. Bloc Québécois MP Gilles Duceppe asked the government to request from France the list of nearly 2,000 Canadians holding HSBC accounts in Switzerland to evade taxes.
Decided that day
- C-509 advanced to second reading
- C-566, C-567, C-568, C-569, C-570, C-571, C-572 and C-47 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2010-09-30
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Employment Insurance
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced that the government would reduce the recommended EI premium increase by two-thirds, returning $1.2 billion to workers and employers, Conservative MP Cheryl Gallant told the House.
Read the exchangeFirearms Registry
Liberal MP Bob Rae asked why the government refuses to respect parliamentary votes on the long-gun registry and the census; Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that law-abiding gun owners support licensing of handguns but reject the long-gun registry.
Read the exchangeG8 and G20 Summits
Liberal MP Mark Holland said the RCMP command centre for the summits cost $27 million for 72 hours, including $1.5 million in weekend rent; Public Safety Minister Vic Toews replied that the lease was a competitive 24-month bid for $2.2 million.
Read the exchangeCensus
Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett said 350 community leaders have condemned the decision to scrap the mandatory long-form census and asked the government to accept the will of Parliament; Industry Minister Tony Clement said the change balances data needs with Canadians' right to be free from sanctions for refusing an intrusive form.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
NDP MP Jack Harris said the committee reviewing Afghan detainee documents has provided neither information nor accountability; Justice Minister Rob Nicholson replied that the NDP refused to participate in the transparent judicial-review process established over the summer.
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- deflectedThe EconomyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the listed spending choices and pivots to EI premiums.
However, I am surprised, because I would have thought the hon. member would have stood to congratulate the government on the decision announced today on EI premiums that has been praised.
- misdirectedThe EconomyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal vote and coalition instead of addressing EI premium history.
what is more shocking is that the leader of the Liberal Party, earlier in the day, said that the proposal was financially irresponsible.
- misdirectedThe EconomyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to past Liberal actions and coalition criticism rather than current family supports.
Last night those characters voted for a 35% increase for the sole purpose of keeping their little coalition arrangement with the NDP and the Bloc Québécois.
- misdirectedFirearms RegistryBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the democracy question and instead attacks Liberals on gun owners.
What does the Liberal Party have against law-abiding citizens?
- misdirectedFirearms RegistryBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reframes to respect for citizens and attacks Liberals instead of addressing parliamentary sovereignty.
I do not know why the Liberal Party does not respect the people of Canada, especially those who live in the regions.
- partly answeredTax EvasionMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the general position on tax evasion but does not address requesting the list.
If Canadians are using Swiss bank accounts to avoid paying taxes in Canada, those people will face the full force of Canadian law.
- deflectedTax EvasionMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the general stance without committing to requesting the list or pursuing charges.
once again, this government will not tolerate Canadians using use Swiss bank accounts to avoid paying taxes.
- deflectedTax EvasionMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives a general statement on tax compliance without engaging the specific proposals on tax havens.
Our government has taken aggressive action, both domestically and internationally, to recover money owed to Canadians.
- misdirectedTax EvasionMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition party instead of addressing whether Panama must sign a tax agreement before ratification.
However, I note that that party is one that is inclined to look for any excuse to avoid creating trade opportunities for Canadian workers and Canadian businesses.
- partly answeredTax EvasionJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the policy of prosecuting tax evasion but does not address banks or a specific law-and-order agenda.
If some citizens use Swiss bank accounts to avoid paying lawful taxes, the government will prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
- deflectedTax EvasionJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides a statistic then pivots to criticizing NDP tax policies rather than stating the number of investigators.
I listen to the NDP. Of course, nobody anywhere in the House would support tax evasion.
- deflectedTax EvasionJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to HST cuts and NDP tax positions instead of outlining actions against tax havens.
This government will continue to go aggressively after tax evaders, but we will not allow the NDP to use this as an excuse to try to raise taxes on ordinary Canadians.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberal EI policy instead of explaining the upward deficit revisions.
What is the Liberal Party doing? It is voting in favour of a motion to increase EI premiums by 35%, or by almost $7 billion per annum.
- partly answeredThe EconomyMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the summits as legitimate security costs but does not address the specific waste examples raised.
There were approximately 20,000 security personnel on the ground during the summits.
- misdirectedThe EconomyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes the member's past statement on corporate taxes instead of addressing deficit responsibility or spending items.
Here is what he said another time. He stated: [W]e cannot increase corporate taxes without losing corporate investment.
- misdirectedThe EconomyScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses Liberals of stealing from the EI fund rather than addressing missed deficit targets or spending control.
the member for Kings—Hants is right about one thing: the Liberals did not borrow money from the EI fund; they stole it.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general project completion stats without addressing the deadline extension or Quebec-specific $200M loss.
We will clearly take a reasonable approach in this regard.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states general policy on private-sector funding without confirming or denying the 45% federal share for the arena.
If the federal government were to invest in these types of infrastructure, it would do so in a fair and affordable manner throughout the country.
- deflectedPort InfrastructureMr. Claude Guimond (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the inherited backlog and overall investments but ignores the specific Rimouski breakwater request.
Work is now under way or completed at over 270 harbours.
- misdirectedPort InfrastructureMr. Claude Guimond (Bloc) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the Bloc Québécois voting record instead of addressing maintenance responsibilities for eastern Quebec ports.
However, the Bloc voted against every one of these initiatives.
- misdirectedCensusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the census and Parliament question entirely and shifts to attacking the opposition on EI premiums.
We do not need a census to know that the vote of the opposition members to hike EI premiums by 35% will cost Canada jobs
- misdirectedCensusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer evades the census issue and instead attacks a Liberal MP and repeats the EI premium talking point.
Which MP? The Liberal MP for Richmond Hill
- deflectedCensusCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the policy choice on privacy but does not address accepting Parliament's will or restoring the long-form census.
we are seeking to balance the rights of Canadians to be free from sanctions when they choose not to fill out an invasive and intrusive form
- deflectedCensusCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the balance of data needs versus privacy but avoids committing to restoring the long-form census or accepting Parliament's decision.
That is the balance of a responsible government.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer promotes job creation numbers instead of addressing the question on acceptable job losses from the EI hike.
We have seen the creation of about 430,000 net new jobs since the end of the recession in July 2009.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly explains the premium impact and benefit claimed in the announcement.
the announcement this morning actually means that there will be about $1.2 billion back in the pockets of workers and job creators in the next year
- misdirectedCensusMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc leader's past statement rather than addressing the minister's own explanations on census privacy.
The leader of the Bloc said, and I quote, "Well, if you refuse [to fill out the form], certain government services won't be provided to you for as long as you refuse.
- deflectedCensusMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates a general position on balance and privacy without engaging the listed organizations or data concerns.
We want to find the best approach and strike the right balance between getting the necessary data and protecting Canadians' privacy.
- deflectedG8 and G20 SummitsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer corrects a cost figure and pivots to summit accomplishments instead of providing the requested receipts.
perhaps I could advise the hon. member that the lease was for $2.2 million.
- deflectedG8 and G20 SummitsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights transparency claims and Auditor General review rather than addressing the specific spending examples.
I think Canada is one of the rare countries that has actually been transparent about the security costs.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the NDP for not participating in a process instead of responding to the detainee transfer figures.
it is good to see the NDP back on message here.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer questions the NDP's coalition partners and process participation rather than addressing the call for a public inquiry.
this whole process was good enough for their coalition partners; why was it not good enough for the them?
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question mocks rather than inquires and the answer pivots to attacking the opposition instead of addressing the monitoring announcement.
It was his own leader who said that party made a mess on the environment.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Josée Beaudin (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The question embeds an accusation of betrayal and the answer shifts to opposition voting records without addressing the specific claim.
Yesterday evening, they voted for other proposals that would cost Canadians $7 billion per year.
- answeredProduct SafetyMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks for a timeline on legislation and the answer states the bill has been reintroduced with its purpose.
That is why we reintroduced the Canada consumer products safety legislation, Bill C-36
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The question requests the upcoming week's agenda and the answer names one bill but adds unrelated collegial remarks first.